2016 Presidential Horse Race

[pkt77242]

Wouldn't you say it's reasonable people can look at decades of failed policies in NY and CA and reach a similar conclusion?

Can you explain what the failed policies are in NY?

Also California has had plenty of Republican Governors, though the legislature has been controlled by Democrats. Also oddly enough Gov. Brown's policies have led to a credit upgrade for California. There is still a lot of work to do to finish fixing their issues but he has done a fair amount in a short period of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_California

 

[RDU Irish]

You really like him up till then?

You loved his ideas about..... what now?

That was my first impression and it was bad enough that I really didn't care what his ideas were since his ability to command respect on a national stage is non-existent, IMO.

 

[connor_in]

After years of these....

Now we get...

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Can you explain what the failed policies are in NY?

Also California has had plenty of Republican Governors, though the legislature has been controlled by Democrats. Also oddly enough Gov. Brown's policies have led to a credit upgrade for California. There is still a lot of work to do to finish fixing their issues but he has done a fair amount in a short period of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Governors_of_California

1. lol at California's republican governors excuse. That state has been controlled by leftists for decades.

2. California still has more unfunded liabilities than any other state in the union.

On to NY:

1. Ranks 3rd in the country in amount of debt

2. Economic policies are motivating businesses and people to move out of state (I've discussed this several times on here)

3. Top 10 in states with most unfunded liabilities

4. For the social justice crowd, Manhattan leads the country in income inequality.

 

[drake29]

IDK much about the rest of the country - but I've lived in Kansas my whole life. This is by far the worst I remember. The wife and I are actually considering moving across the boarder into Missouri - and I hate Missouri.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

IDK much about the rest of the country - but I've lived in Kansas my whole life. This is by far the worst I remember. The wife and I are actually considering moving across the boarder into Missouri - and I hate Missouri.

Don't do it, man. I mean...you can leave Kansas...it's a nightmare right now. But Missouri?

 

[Rack Em]

IDK much about the rest of the country - but I've lived in Kansas my whole life. This is by far the worst I remember. The wife and I are actually considering moving across the boarder into Missouri - and I hate Missouri.

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Don't do it, man. I mean...you can leave Kansas...it's a nightmare right now. But Missouri?

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Who else wants some of Rack Em's red bombs?

 

[dshans]

I've been to Missouri a number of times.

I enjoyed my stay each and every time.

Do I get I get a green bomb, Rack Em?

 

[IrishJayhawk]

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Who else wants some of Rack Em's red bombs?

I'm just saying...the KS/MO rivalry goes back to slavery. No coincidence that the best brewery in Kansas is the Free State Brewery.

*Note: I do very much like Kansas City.

 

[Rack Em]

I'm just saying...the KS/MO rivalry goes back to slavery. No coincidence that the best brewery in Kansas is the Free State Brewery.

*Note: I do very much like Kansas City.

Hey, if you don't like America, then you can geettttttt outttttttt. And take your War of Northern Aggression with you.

And KC is hardly MO. That's like saying "I like Chicago, so therefore I like Illinois."

 

[Rack Em]

I've been to Missouri a number of times.

I enjoyed my stay each and every time.

Do I get I get a green bomb, Rack Em?

You get a green bomb! You get a green bomb! Everybody gets a green bomb!

 

[woolybug25]

Choosing between Kansas and Mis(souri)ery...

That like choosing between a a bout of poison ivy or a swift kick to the balls.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Choosing between Kansas and Mis(souri)ery...

That like choosing between a a bout of poison ivy or a swift kick to the balls.

At least Misery has the Cards. And toasted ravioli.

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[woolybug25]

At least Misery has the Cards. And toasted ravioli.

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true dat.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

And at least Kansas has Lawrence.

 

[dshans]

... That like choosing between a a bout of poison ivy or a swift kick to the balls.

I'll take Poison Ivy for 800, Alex.

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[IrishJayhawk]

Latest NBS/WSJ poll has Clinton leading Bush (48-40), Rubio (50-40), and Walker (51-37) in the general election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls

 

[phgreek]

Latest NBS/WSJ poll has Clinton leading Bush (48-40), Rubio (50-40), and Walker (51-37) in the general election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls

shaping up to be what no one wanted...Awesome...

 

[IrishJayhawk]

shaping up to be what no one wanted...Awesome...

Meh. Lots of time left.

 

[GATTACA!]

Latest NBS/WSJ poll has Clinton leading Bush (48-40), Rubio (50-40), and Walker (51-37) in the general election.

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 Presidential Polls

 

[woolybug25]

shaping up to be what no one wanted...Awesome...

Am I reading that correctly? That Clinton has a 40+ point lead on the rest of the democratic field in pretty much every swing state?

So... she's running practically unopposed then...


I have always been an ardant supporter of ALWAYS voting. "Don't complain if you didn't vote" and whatnot... If it is a Clinton/Bush race, then I honestly don't even care who wins. I wont waste my time even thinking about it.

 

[wizards8507]

I have always been an ardant supporter of ALWAYS voting. "Don't complain if you didn't vote" and whatnot... If it is a Clinton/Bush race, then I honestly don't even care who wins. I wont waste my time even thinking about it.

Yeah I'd vote for Hillary in that case. They'll both be equally awful but I'd rather see the country run into the ground by statism and have people see it as such rather than by statism that the media labels "conservatism," further perverting the meaning of the word.

 

[mgriff]

Sanders/Paul 2016! Haha.

If it's Clinton/Bush I'll vote third party and try to organize for others to do the same so we can break the two-party system. Didn't work in 2012 but I prefer that to choosing the lesser of two evils.

 

[GoIrish41]

Sanders/Paul 2016! Haha.

I would vote for that ticket, providing Sanders' name remained first.

 

[mgriff]

I would vote for that ticket, providing Sanders' name remained first.

I would vote for that either way. I like Sanders on many issues and Rand on many issues. It would be nice if they could balance each other out. There's two guys I would trust in a room debating and conceding to come up with the best plan for America.

 

[wizards8507]

Sanders/Paul 2016! Haha.

If it's Clinton/Bush I'll vote third party and try to organize for others to do the same so we can break the two-party system. Didn't work in 2012 but I prefer that to choosing the lesser of two evils.

Hopefully the Libertarian Party wises up and nominates Rand Paul. He polls better than any other Republican candidate against Mrs. Clinton (with the exception of state-specific candidates like Kasich in Ohio or Bush/Rubio in Florida). I honestly think a Rand Paul third party run could be a threat to a Bush-Clinton election. He wouldn't be as successful if the Republicans nominated a conservative candidate, but his populism could draw loads of people away from two of the biggest establishment candidates we've ever seen.

 

[GATTACA!]

I would vote for that either way. I like Sanders on many issues and Rand on many issues. It would be nice if they could balance each other out. There's two guys I would trust in a room debating and conceding to come up with the best plan for America.

They are the two that I think actually believe in what they are saying, not just trying to score points.

 

[Wild Bill]

Hopefully the Libertarian Party wises up and nominates Rand Paul. He polls better than any other Republican candidate against Mrs. Clinton (with the exception of state-specific candidates like Kasich in Ohio or Bush/Rubio in Florida). I honestly think a Rand Paul third party run could be a threat to a Bush-Clinton election. He wouldn't be as successful if the Republicans nominated a conservative candidate, but his populism could draw loads of people away from two of the biggest establishment candidates we've ever seen.

He can make a run but odds are he loses and gift wraps the election for Hillary. That's a huge risk that I don't believe he'll take.

Not sure if it's been discussed before but who would be Rand's VP? He has to take someone that can deliver a swing state, right?

 

[wizards8507]

Not sure if it's been discussed before but who would be Rand's VP? He has to take someone that can deliver a swing state, right?

My guess is Rubio. Rand polls poorly in Florida.

 

[ACamp1900]

I heard in passing that Clinton was beating Rubio currently in Florida, can anyone confirm?