'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[wizards8507]

I don't understand your post.

I think Crusader took your quote of EG's tweet to mean that EG is claiming he did NOT reach out to LSU and that you believe him.

But what I think you meant is that he probably DID reach out to LSU (and other teams) but that doesn't mean he's going anywhere.

 

[NDdomer2]

I mean, per Lax, he DID reach out to LSU. What's incorrect?

I'm not saying anything is incorrect. BUT as LAX said

I think it's really bush league for that paper to report what they did, how they did, when they did.

I know you report for espn so my comment probably lumps you in there which is why you felt obliged to respond, but you cant deny that with all the online "news" websites and journalists now the quality of whats out there has went to absolute crap.

 

[NDdomer2]

Do you think they are making it up? No way. T-P is part of Advance Pubs. They are legit. If you don't see a retraction and apology by tomorrow, it happened and Kelly knew about it.

Furthermore... if Kelly didn't know about this, EG is gone regardless, you don't do that stuff behind the head coach's back.

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Coach Kelly would have had to help fill out his paperwork for him to talk to another school. That is if Golson and other universities are following NCAA transfer guidelines.

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't understand your post.

I took your last post about the Times-Picayune to mean you didn't believe them at all.

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[Whiskeyjack]

Now as far as the list goes... I think LSU, Texas and USC are window dressing to boost his image. Why in hell would you go to a school like LSU where your job is to hand the ball to Fournette. He has one chance of getting paid in the NFL / CFL and that's slingin' it.

My money is on him landing at an ECU type program. Though some BiG12 schools might fit.

There are very few programs that: (1) run a pass-first spread (to showcase his skill set); and (2) have so little talent at QB that he'd have a good chance of walking right into starting job.

He'll stick around for spring camp and graduate in May. I expect that Kelly will convince him to come back as a GS, and that he'll be our starter against Texas. I'm hoping he figures out how to execute the Zone Read and protect the football, or his college career will have one of the most depressingly anti-climatic endings in NDFB history when Zaire unseats him.

 

[RDU Irish]

This may be his only chance to collect a paycheck for his QB duties. I don't really blame him. Plus he just saw first hand how grossly overrated SEC defenses are I hear a Google search for Jamarcus Russell was on the computer he just left at the computer lab.

 

[BobbyMac]

Coach Kelly would have had to help fill out his paperwork for him to talk to another school. That is if Golson and other universities are following NCAA transfer guidelines.

Exactly. It's one thing for a basketball player at Hofstra to reach out to his old AAU coach who's now at St. Joe's about transferring but for EG to talk to Les Miles & LSU behind CBK & ND's back is unimaginable.

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[IrishLax]

I think Crusader took your quote of EG's tweet to mean that EG is claiming he did NOT reach out to LSU and that you believe him.

But what I think you meant is that he probably DID reach out to LSU (and other teams) but that doesn't mean he's going anywhere.

Yeah, pretty much.

What I was saying about the article is that it's 90% rehashing rules and such about transfers, or recounting stats and performance. The only news is found in the first paragraph, where it states that he is "interested in becoming a Tiger" and "has reached out to LSU."

The last part -- reaching out to LSU -- I'd bet is accurate, even if it's not one of the schools I'd heard mentioned early on. The first part -- that he's "interested in becoming a Tiger" -- is what I find misleading... the clear implication from the article is that he actively wants to transfer to LSU. And that implication is both misleading and grossly premature.

 

[wizards8507]

I expect that Kelly will convince him to come back as a GS...

Are we sure he's even eligible?

To be considered for admission to the Graduate School, you must fulfill all of the following requirements:

hold a bachelor’s degree or its equivalent from an accredited American university or from a foreign institution of acceptable standing by the time of matriculation;

have earned at least a B average in your undergraduate major courses and meet the level of academic achievement that implies a developed ability for advanced study and independent scholarship;

I'm sure there's something in there about academic dishonesty too.

 

[Old Man Mike]

There is a somewhat related thing that has been puzzling me about the Golson-2015 affair: If Everett does graduate in the Spring, then the only way he can be at Notre Dame for the season is if he is in Notre Dame graduate school. As an old academic I cannot imagine approving a somewhat-disgraced mediocre student like Everett into my graduate school program, even at a Master's level. How does that happen?

My naivete obviously rules here. Maybe you guys can set me straight on this weirdness.

Noting the near-simultaneous post above, somebody else wonders about this too.

 

[GoldenDomer]

So long!

 

[NDRock]

I'm hoping he figures out how to execute the Zone Read and protect the football, or his college career will have one of the most depressingly anti-climatic endings in NDFB history when Zaire unseats him.

What do you think the issue is with him running the zone read? He looks like Rees back there, where it appeared keeping the ball was not an option. Do you think he doesn't want to carry it or is Kelly taking that option out to keep him from being injured? I don't think Golson is an elite runner from the QB position but he can be very effective. If he is our starter next year I hope to God we run him more (yes I know he fumbles but seems less inclined to on designed runs), we've got a very capable back-up.

 

[ARALOU]

Let me see if I got this right. This young man takes a year to get back to ND, to finish his degree, as we all assumed he would not be back. Now he is leaving because he may not start? I guess I can I buy it. Is that why BK made a large effort to get EG involved in the game against LSU? To keep him there or see if he responded? Lot of questions

 

[ulukinatme]

I think we can all agree that our quarterback depth is pretty outstanding, to the point where our early season Heisman hopeful is considering transfiguring and im not even that upset by it.

Blasphemy! Only Reesus is capable of such wonders.

I've always supported our QB and savior, Reesus. Golson has always felt like a false prophet from day 1.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

A minor quibble with the information as reported... I don't believe Golson was ever academically ineligible as his time away from ND was disciplinary, correct?

 

[ickythump1225]

You know who could be the big loser out of a Golson transfer? Gunner Kiel. Obviously it's tough to say where he would have been on the depth chart the last two years, especially if he didn't get along with Chuck Martin while he was here, but with Golson out of the picture I wonder if Kiel would have had first crack as the replacement this year instead of Zaire. Kiel's transfer came before Golson's suspension and he possibly could have gotten snaps in a competition with Rees that fall, and he certainly could have been in the mix if he was still on the depth chart for LSU.

Hindsight is 20/20 of course, so there's no way Kiel could have known Golson would get booted for a year, then return and flame out, but thinking Golson had solidified the QB position for the next 3 years is likely what pushed him to Cinci. College football is a fickle mistress.

Just think he could have started last year. Perhaps he comes in last year and tears it up making Golson's return this year a moot point.

 

[ulukinatme]

What do you think the issue is with him running the zone read? He looks like Rees back there, where it appeared keeping the ball was not an option. Do you think he doesn't want to carry it or is Kelly taking that option out to keep him from being injured? I don't think Golson is an elite runner from the QB position but he can be very effective. If he is our starter next year I hope to God we run him more (yes I know he fumbles but seems less inclined to on designed runs), we've got a very capable back-up.

I think the problem is he runs it like Andrew Hendrix, ie he doesn't do a good job of actually reading the edge and deciding whether to keep it or hand it off. Hendrix had the same problem, despite limited opportunities to run the zone read. I guess Golson hasn't run it much either, but it's probably because he's done a poor job with it in the past. Zaire, on the other hand, did an excellent job with his reads for the most part against LSU as well as in past spring games.

 

[NDdomer2]

There is a somewhat related thing that has been puzzling me about the Golson-2015 affair: If Everett does graduate in the Spring, then the only way he can be at Notre Dame for the season is if he is in Notre Dame graduate school. As an old academic I cannot imagine approving a somewhat-disgraced mediocre student like Everett into my graduate school program, even at a Master's level. How does that happen?

My naivete obviously rules here. Maybe you guys can set me straight on this weirdness.

Noting the near-simultaneous post above, somebody else wonders about this too.

I know ND holds itself to a higher standard than most but no one thinks its possible for him to get into grad school because he doesnt meet the handbook requirements? The same ones a majority of these kids get by just to get admitted the first time? What makes the acceptance standards set in stone at the graduate level compared to under grad?

My guess is if the kids have a year left and the coach will have them they find grad courses for them to take.

 

[Redbar]

My prediction:

The Piombino will be in here shortly to tell you all how funny you are and how he is LOL'ing because LSU already has a quarterback that is so talented. He literally won't be able to keep a straight face.

 

[BobbyMac]

There are very few programs that: (1) run a pass-first spread (to showcase his skill set); and (2) have so little talent at QB that he'd have a good chance of walking right into starting job.

He'll stick around for spring camp and graduate in May. I expect that Kelly will convince him to come back as a GS, and that he'll be our starter against Texas. I'm hoping he figures out how to execute the Zone Read and protect the football, or his college career will have one of the most depressingly anti-climatic endings in NDFB history when Zaire unseats him.

I think it's too late. His opportunity cost is too high at ND. East Carolina runs an up tempo spread and Carden is done. Marshall is losing Cato. Both or those QB's are undersized in the 6-0 to 6-2 range. What about WVU with Clint Trickett leaving?

I think he's gone. I still hope he stays.

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[Anchorman]

A minor quibble with the information as reported... I don't believe Golson was ever academically ineligible as his time away from ND was disciplinary, correct?

Seems very possible that given his reported academic struggles, that semester that led to the disciplinary absence could have also rendered him academically in hot water?

 

[wizards8507]

I know ND holds itself to a higher standard than most but no one thinks its possible for him to get into grad school because he doesnt meet the handbook requirements? The same ones a majority of these kids get by just to get admitted the first time? What makes the acceptance standards set in stone at the graduate level compared to under grad?

There aren't set-in-stone standards for undergraduate admission. An undergrad admit generally has an ACT above 30, is in the top 10% of his class, etc, but there's nothing written that says an admit MUST have an ACT above 30 or be in the top 10% of his class. The grad school admissions guidelines flat-out say "...must have a B average in undergraduate major courses."

 

[ulukinatme]

If he's really thinking about transferring, I hope he shits or gets off the pot. I don't want him sticking around and mucking up the depth chart this spring when Zaire could be getting most of the first team reps. If he wants to stay, then fine, but if he's not committed to the program and he wants an opportunity elsewhere...then "see ya."

 

[TDHeysus]

Coach Kelly to Golson on leaving (and about Wimbush):

isn't this great, your flight leaves at 8;
his(wimbush) lands at 9, my game just rewind


or was that Biggie?


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[wizards8507]

If he's really thinking about transferring, I hope he shits or gets off the pot. I don't want him sticking around and mucking up the depth chart this spring when Zaire could be getting most of the first team reps. If he wants to stay, then fine, but if he's not committed to the program and he wants an opportunity elsewhere...then "see ya."

There's the rub (or one of them, at least). He can't transfer now. He has to stay at least through the spring to graduate. If he transfers now, then the graduate transfer exemption wouldn't apply and he'd have to sit a year.

 

[ARALOU]

Either way, I still can't forget he helped lead ND to one of the best regular seasons in recent history. 12-0 is rare.

 

[ickythump1225]

I like EG and if he were to transfer I would wish him all the best. It might be the best option for him.

 

[ulukinatme]

Either way, I still can't forget he helped lead ND to one of the best regular seasons in recent history. 12-0 is rare.

Reesus would have gone 13-0 with that defense behind him.

 

[ARALOU]

Rees could not have made a couple of the plays Golson did make, to win games. IMO

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Seems very possible that given his reported academic struggles, that semester that led to the disciplinary absence could have also rendered him academically in hot water?

Maybe but remember he didn't take any classes during his hiatus. Would he have been able to participate in spring ball if he were NCAA ineligible? (Honest question as I really have no idea).