'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[Luckylucci]

Golson can only transfer and play next year IF he graduates AND goes to a grad program at another school that is NOT OFFERED at ND. He could not graduate, enroll in an MBA program at some other school, and be eligible to play next year because ND offers an MBA program.

I was responding to him saying BK won't name a starter after spring. Golson is on track to graduate after spring (May). I'm also fairly confident in saying, without getting into semantics, he'll be able to figure out a place to go play football.

 

[kmoose]

I was responding to him saying BK won't name a starter after spring. Golson is on track to graduate after spring (May). I'm also fairly confident in saying, without getting into semantics, he'll be able to figure out a place to go play football.

What grad school program is he going to get accepted into, that isn't already offered at ND?

Hendrix got away with it because he went to Med School. I find it hard to believe that Golson could possibly get accepted into any Med School outside of Central and South America.

 

[BobbyMac]

I don't think you have the first clue what the tradition of Notre Dame football is all about, or how college football rankings work, either. But stay right there in your fantasy land, man. Don't let anyone ruin the Unicorn Bowl for you.

...and that snarky response refutes what exactly? I'll put my college sports knowledge up against your's any day. My first question to you in regards to ND tradition would be who wins a game between the '73 and '77 team. I saw them both and I have my opinions but I'll let you go first and teach me something.

Golson can only transfer and play next year IF he graduates AND goes to a grad program at another school that is NOT OFFERED at ND. He could not graduate, enroll in an MBA program at some other school, and be eligible to play next year because ND offers an MBA program.

Good job Captain Obvious.

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[Luckylucci]

What grad school program is he going to get accepted into, that isn't already offered at ND?

Hendrix got away with it because he went to Med School. I find it hard to believe that Golson could possibly get accepted into any Med School outside of Central and South America.

Again, I'm not going to get into semantics or try and act like I know what he's going to do. However, I will bet you all my vbucks that if Golson isn't the obvious starter after next spring he'll be playing football somewhere else. Not that complicated.

 

[IrishLax]

Golson can only transfer and play next year IF he graduates AND goes to a grad program at another school that is NOT OFFERED at ND. He could not graduate, enroll in an MBA program at some other school, and be eligible to play next year because ND offers an MBA program.

Actually, that's not really true anymore. They let you go to any school. The rule has become semantics, there is not a single case ever of someone being forbade from transferring somewhere and being eligible immediately after graduating from another 4 year school.

 

[kmoose]

My first question to you in regards to ND tradition would be who wins a game between the '73 and '77 team.

Stats are not tradition. Tradition is saying that we want to play the best competition that we can, every week. However, playing LSU in the Music City Bowl counts. And it counts for quite a bit. It's about David (ND) vs. Goliath (LSU). It's about a bunch of kids who no one (save for maybe their mothers) is giving a chance, rising up and beating the heavily favored team. ("Though the odds be great or small, ole Notre Dame will win over all..."). Notre Dame is about striving for the top of the mountain. But it's more about the journey there, than the actual act of summiting that mountain. ND is about producing well rounded, well educated young men. Young men who have never failed are not well rounded. Life is about balance; you have to fail once in a while, to truly appreciate what it means to succeed, and to maintain that drive to succeed.

This "National Championship or the season is a failure" mantra is the product of arrogant fans. And, quite frankly, hearing the ignorants toss it around so easily is becoming boring.

 

[BobbyMac]

I hope he stays.

BUT

You have to admit the opportunity cost for him (and Miller) is extremely high in regards to staying when they both could have guaranteed starting jobs at other programs.

I would be on the first plane to Greenville if I were Golson to inherit Shane Carden's spot in the Pirate's pass happy offense.

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[BobbyMac]

Stats are not tradition. Tradition is saying that we want to play the best competition that we can, every week. However, playing LSU in the Music City Bowl counts. And it counts for quite a bit. It's about David (ND) vs. Goliath (LSU). It's about a bunch of kids who no one (save for maybe their mothers) is giving a chance, rising up and beating the heavily favored team. ("Though the odds be great or small, ole Notre Dame will win over all..."). Notre Dame is about striving for the top of the mountain. But it's more about the journey there, than the actual act of summiting that mountain. ND is about producing well rounded, well educated young men. Young men who have never failed are not well rounded. Life is about balance; you have to fail once in a while, to truly appreciate what it means to succeed, and to maintain that drive to succeed.

This "National Championship or the season is a failure" mantra is the product of arrogant fans. And, quite frankly, hearing the ignorants toss it around so easily is becoming boring.

It's only ignorant because you didn't get to see 4 National Champions and congratulations on calling Notre Dame... David. You are the first person to write that since the 1800's.

I'm sorry I responded to you. What you know about ND tradition is gleaned from the internet from the writings of "old-timers" like me.

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[stlnd01]

What grad school program is he going to get accepted into, that isn't already offered at ND?

Hendrix got away with it because he went to Med School. I find it hard to believe that Golson could possibly get accepted into any Med School outside of Central and South America.

Physical therapy. Broadcast journalism. High school administration. It doesn't matter. If he wants to go, this won't be a barrier.

 

[Irish#1]

One is considerably less experienced and younger. I understand why he would do it. What I don't understand is why, after Golson struggled, you wouldn't reign it in for him. But my point was more along the lines of quit anointing Zaire the 2nd coming of Heysus after one start with a play book to help him succeed, and let's quit treating Golson like the red headed step child after he couldn't succeed with the full play book in his lap. I think Kelly needs to do a better job of putting his players and this team in a position to win.

Very good point and well stated.

I loved Malik's "no fear" attitude and he appears to have the tools to succeed. However, it was one game. We have to see what he does after opponents have some game film to watch.

I think MZ's carries were fairly high yesterday, but with experience the number of carries will go down as he learns to read defenses better.

Those writing EG off may want to hold off. He looked very good in the limited number of reps he got.

 

[koonja]

I simply think it's impressive thay Malika played 1.5 games against 2 of the most athletic defenses we've had this year and hasn't had a turnover thay I can recalll.

 

[pkt77242]

What grad school program is he going to get accepted into, that isn't already offered at ND?

Hendrix got away with it because he went to Med School. I find it hard to believe that Golson could possibly get accepted into any Med School outside of Central and South America.

Riggs went from Florida to ND and isn't he in the MBA program? Florida has a MBA program (as well as masters programs in management, finance, etc).

 

[kmoose]

It's only ignorant because you didn't get to see 4 National Champions and congratulations on calling Notre Dame... David. You are the first person to write that since the 1800's.

I'm sorry I responded to you. What you know about ND tradition is gleaned from the internet from the writings of "old-timers" like me.

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Don't flatter yourself. What I know about ND tradition was passed on to me by two men:

1. My Irish grandfather, who had no affiliation with the University apart from being Irish and a fan.

2. My best friend's dad (and my midget football coach), ND Class of '62.


ND was a 9 point underdog. It wasn't the largest spread in the bowl games, but it was close. That's way more David than Goliath.

 

[IrishLax]

ND was a 9 point underdog. It wasn't the largest spread in the bowl games, but it was close. That's way more David than Goliath.

Of games played so far, ND was the second most picked against. Only ASU (93%) was picked over Duke than LSU (90%) was picked over Notre Dame. There was scarce a person that thought ND would win.

 

[ulukinatme]

At this point, I kind of hope Golson takes off. I think he's more trouble than he's worth. He's not a leader, certainly not a vocal one anyway. The turnovers are a problem, even if he didn't turn it over yesterday. He has shown in the past that he can't correctly run the read option, so that takes a deadly play out of his playbook. He does a fairly average, if not below average, job going through his progressions. He was slightly better in that regard yesterday, but more often than not if his 1st option isn't open he's off and running. I just don't think the team responds as well to him under center, and I'd rather not put eggs in the Golson basket again if they may break and take reps away from Zaire.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Spoke to Everett Golson on Wednesday. Said he plans to return to Notre Dame for the spring semester and is on track to graduate in May.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/550359364297830402">December 31, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Well we can start speculating about 5th year versus transfer with immediate playing time. It's going to be a long off-season.

 

[Irish Insanity]

...and that is the dimension of being able to pick up positive yards on EVERY play that MZ brings to play calling. EG hasn't been able to capitalize on his athletic ability to pick up yards on a consistent basis during his career. He's a play extender which after an incompletion or two leaves you in a lot of 3rd and longs. MZ will be working with a lot of 3rd and shorts becuase his busted plays still produce positive yardage. His sample size is small but it's against maybe the best possible team to predict his future.

You missed the whole point of the discussion......

 

[IrishinSyria]

I think Kelly showed his hand at the end of the game. With the game truly on the line, he still trusted Golson. And lord knows he had reason to, the kid has ice in his veins. I expect to see some sort of 2-headed monster next year, but I think there's no doubt EG is 1a in Kelly's mind.

 

[jspags10pg]

I think Kelly showed his hand at the end of the game. With the game truly on the line, he still trusted Golson. And lord knows he had reason to, the kid has ice in his veins. I expect to see some sort of 2-headed monster next year, but I think there's no doubt EG is 1a in Kelly's mind.

Golson didn't start the last drive...Malik did. Golson didn't come in until Malik's helmet came off. He stayed in for a few plays and moved the ball well and then Malik came back in to finish the drive and game off.

I, like you, hope to see both play next year at ND...but I hope it's very similar to yesterday with much more Malik than Golson. I think a big reason Golson played well in his limited role yesterday was because he didn't have so much pressure squarely on his shoulders. He came in and he played loose. And even then he still threw that one duck when LSU got pressure to him...he was lucky Fuller made a play on that ball and it wasn't picked off.

I think and hope that this is Malik's team going forward...and hopefully Golson can come in situationally if needed.

 

[tadman95]

I hope Golson hangs around but I just don't see many reasons for him to stay. Assuming he graduates in May, there are just more compelling reasons to leave versus staying and sharing QB duties or being 2nd team.

First he'll have a ND degree. I don't really believe he has the skills needed to realistically make it in the NFL. That said, his stock has certainly fallen the last half of the year and to improve it he has to play. Sharing duties or backing up Zaire does not meet that need.

Unless he is certain to start, or has some other compelling reason to stay, I think he moves on. I would, with a smile on my face and a ND degree on the wall.

He was an all-state point guard, maybe he plays bball for a year and tries the NBA like Charlie Ward.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I think Kelly showed his hand at the end of the game. With the game truly on the line, he still trusted Golson. And lord knows he had reason to, the kid has ice in his veins. I expect to see some sort of 2-headed monster next year, but I think there's no doubt EG is 1a in Kelly's mind.

I agree with everything but the bolded. Zaire started and finished the drive, and off the top of my head I want to say that he also played all three third downs. Kelly certainly trusted Golson enough to put him on the field and make every big throw on the drive, but he also trusted Zaire - so I'm not sure he really showed his hand. Except if he does indeed want to play both of them next year, which is the only reason for Golson to stick around, but also makes me a little nervous. I like having 1 QB.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Notre Dame QB Everett Golson has reached out to LSU about transferring, sources say | NOLA.com

 

[NDdomer2]

wow! who would have thought the sec would have a rule in place that could potentially block Golson's transfer.

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[wizards8507]

Oh sht.

 

[tko]

my favorite, LOL.

 

[Booslum31]

wow! who would have thought the sec would have a rule in place that could potentially block Golson's transfer.

I thought the same thing...especially becuase i didn't think the SEC had ANY rules.

 

[connor_in]

Notre Dame QB Everett Golson has reached out to LSU about transferring, sources say | NOLA.com

cue the Price is Right's losing horns...

 

[kmoose]

Notre Dame QB Everett Golson has reached out to LSU about transferring, sources say | NOLA.com

I'm not buying it. He hasn't even lost his job at ND yet.

 

[wizards8507]

He hasn't even lost his job at ND yet.