Robertson told Scout this week that he is close to committing and may commit this week. Some think UCLA or ASU but they aren't sure if UCLA is a committable offer or not.
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'15 LA OT/DT Jerry Tillery (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)
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Robertson told Scout this week that he is close to committing and may commit this week. Some think UCLA or ASU but they aren't sure if UCLA is a committable offer or not.
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It's not too late for any of them, says a 12-0 or 11-1 season. If...?
Staff never really had interest in him.
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What? No Tillery post?
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The night Death Valley died.
stlnd01
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Why bother. He spent the weekend in Louisiana. Clearly, he gone.
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What a dumpster fire . . .
Death Valley died 11/15/97 when 5000 IRISH fans can be heard cheering over the LSU fans as ND shut down the Tigers 24-6.
It was Davie's best coached game, turnover free, penalty free, and good time management. ND took the opening kickoff and marched down the field for the first score. Colletto had huge splits and the OLine blocked like Aaron Taylor and the rest of the '93 OLine. The RBs ran like they were part of Holtz's stable. They were through the holes quickly and made decisive cuts moving the chains. Colletto worked the TE drag to perfection.
The first score stunned the rowdy Tiger crowd. After the second ND score there were no more "Tiger Bait" taunts. Before halftime Tiger fans were leaving the stadium in disbelief. ND continued to score and the exodus of silent LSU mourners left the cheering to the IRISH fans. Most of us sat in the right corner of the end zone, the rest were mostly across the way in the upper deck. One side would start "WE ARE" and the other side responded, ND!" I taped the game and from the third period on the visitors cheers dominated the audio. By early in the 4th quarter there few LSU fans left. We started counting and there were more LSU cheerleaders and band members than fans. The sideline elite crowd had also abandoned there team.
For LSU fans, Death Valley was no longer their morgue, on 11/15/97 THE IRISH held a wake there for LSU on the field and in the stands.
When the game ended the team rushed our corner of the end zone and we sang together. The game was over no more than 5 or 6 minutes when they turned the stadium lights out. It was eerie standing in the dark with only the Exit signs lit. There was a middle aged LSU couple sitting behind us during the game that my wife and I had chatted with before and during the game. They congratulated us one the win and the spirit of Notre Dame fans. They apologized for the lack of hospitality shown by the stadium staff turning out the lights with some 5000 people, us, still in the stands. They also cautioned us to take the darkness as a warning not to go out partying unless we were going to a home of an ND fan. They stressed there were a lot of ugly drunks out there who had been drinking since breakfast and would be happy to get a pound of flesh to sooth the anger of the loss.
When we got back to the hotel, Holiday Inn, we asked the desk manager where we could go to get something to eat. He said, "First, let me congratulate you on a well played game, tonight we were the bait. Second dressed in Notre Dame attire like you are, I'd suggest Room Service might be prudent. You don't want to go out dressed that way. There's too much alcohol consumed on game days and there are too many people that think it's funny to get ugly." We called a local friend, athe ND Internet friend who had coordinated the ticket arrangements for a bunch of us and ended up at her house to party. She also suggested changing out of ND gear before venturing out. We did.
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Surprised there's no mention of this yet, but Tillery will OV Texas A&M in November.
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I don't think anyone really cares anymore. I'd hardly consider him an ND commit at this point.
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damn you would hate me then if I was a recruit, id be having a blast on OV's but id still be all ND
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I still believe that he is Irish...he's just enjoying the experience...which he's entitled to.
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A lot of kids take visits. Especially the kids down south. I would rather him take these visits and make sure ND is where he wants to be. If it is we will see him in January's. If not the God bless him and I hope he had a great college career wherever it is. I do believe it will be ND and so does everyone around him and so do our current commits. Still have to remember ND is his dream school.
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Is that a new development? I recall at one point he was talking about Texas, maybe Stanford, but it didn't seem like either of those was actually happening.
Frankly, visits to schools beyond LSU would be of much greater concern (to me, at least). I get that he's an LSU fan, they're close to home, etc. The others do make it seem like he's shopping around.
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I'd say people are being downright positive. Generally if a kid takes visits elsewhere this board considers them decommitted.
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As do our other verbals, Jerry likes Notre Dame. That's cool. Hopefully, they ALL decide to come along for the ride. If they don't, well... it's like being sad about never really knowing a person. It's simply not worth it. Hopefully, the coaches have contingency plans. I leave that up to them, as they have far greater connection to recruits than I ever would (or would want). This recruitment is like a case study on getting too caught up in the recruiting game and never truly learning to accept the past.
I keep reading this wonderful thread to observe and account for any psychological breakthroughs of understanding in our fanbase.
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And, not to beat a dead horse, but so far at least, what actions?
Coming to the Michigan game on an unofficial? Coming in the spring. Planning one or two more visits to South Bend this fall? Yes, he's gone to LSU several times too, but it's a lot closer to home and he's clearly a fan. I wouldn't too worked up over that. And all being equal, I'd rather be the school a kid's committed to than the one he isn't.
Clearly it gets different if he starts OVing other places (and scheduling an OV to A&M so soon after going to ND for the Michigan game and a visit last week from Heistand is a little troubling). But I'll also wait until he actually makes those visits before I get pessimistic on this one.
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You guys know this stuff and are a lot closer to it all than me, but I do know that most/a lot of 18 year olds are fickle and shift from week to week as to what they want or where they can picture themselves or doing what for whichever teams and studying at whichever schools, so checking out the campuses and classes and women at various schools for a kind of outgoing kid (like Tillery seems to be) doesn't seem crazy to me, or even disloyal.
For every Hoge or Deshone Kizer, there are three or four Tilleries. Yeah, a lot of kids would die to play for the Irish and an offer would be the end of the process, but that relates to temperament a lot more than opportunity, in my eyes.
But maybe there are other signs, I don't know.
For every Hoge or Deshone Kizer, there are three or four Tilleries. Yeah, a lot of kids would die to play for the Irish and an offer would be the end of the process, but that relates to temperament a lot more than opportunity, in my eyes.
But maybe there are other signs, I don't know.
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I want to believe Tillery is just trying to get through his season this fall. The pressure has to be immense for him hearing it every place he goes and every Friday night in high school stadiums across La. He evens hears it from his own home with his parents. From the outside looking in, if he sticks with the Irish given all the noise, I would be surprised. Kudos to him if he does.
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I like to think I wouldn't pressure my kid to attend Notre Dame over, say, Michigan or So Cal (or Alabama
), if he indicated a serious interest in going to one of those schools, assuming he wanted to study something the desired school excelled in teaching. I really don't understand parents who pressure their kids to attend their favorite school, again, depending on the particulars. Don't see the particulars here that would justify it.
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I like to think I wouldn't pressure my kid to attend Notre Dame over, say, Michigan or So Cal (or Alabama
I really don't understand parents who pressure their kids to attend their favorite school, if that's what's going on.
Yeah... don't know the whole parents push or exactly how much they are trying to get him to go to LSU. But I agree, let the kid make his choice and then stand behind him. We don't need another Landon Collins "momma" moment.
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Personally, I think the two are not mutually exclusive. You should try to guide your kid passively through the process, and then see where he is leaning. If he is making a bad decision, you should absolutely try to influence him. Once he makes the decision, you say, "We'll support you wherever you want to go, but we are going on record as thinking this is a mistake." Then you drop it unless asked.
Its one thing to chose LSU for a very specific program or because of the tuition (huge consideration), but when it is free you are crazy to turn down a free education from Rice, Duke, ND, Stanford, NW, etc. Michigan and USC might be close calls, but LSU is not. You can get an excellent education anywhere, but the resources and the value of the degree are different (education and value of the degree are unfortunately not the same thing).
The idea of pushing a kid to LSU over ND is pretty short-sighted, unless the kid is (a) just a total homebody that spends all his weekends at home and can't stand the separation or (b) simply not talented enough academically to make it through ND. Otherwise, you are basically saying, the family's ability to see home games for 2 or 3 seasons (for OLinemen) is more important than his education. If he is good enough to be in the NFL, ND is just as good at getting linemen there, and he could be playing in Buffalo.
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NDinLA has said this a million times: watch what a recruit does, not what he says.
This is the best indicator of what impressionable 17 year olds will do in the future (i.e. which school they will sign with). I don't look for Tillery to sign with ND unless he gets seriously injured this season. Until he starts cancelling OVs and shutting down communication with other coaches, I think he's just holding a place.
We can be reasonable about this situation without being mean. He's not being a huge douche about this and he's not acting like Isaiah McKenzie who just wanted his face in front of reporters.
This is the best indicator of what impressionable 17 year olds will do in the future (i.e. which school they will sign with). I don't look for Tillery to sign with ND unless he gets seriously injured this season. Until he starts cancelling OVs and shutting down communication with other coaches, I think he's just holding a place.
We can be reasonable about this situation without being mean. He's not being a huge douche about this and he's not acting like Isaiah McKenzie who just wanted his face in front of reporters.
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In your opinion (really asking), would being reasonable mean for Kelly or his handler to call him and say, "seriously, Jerry, what's your inclination here? We understand you want to check out the waterfront, but are you still in? Is you is or is you ain't my baby?" (He can leave off the last sentence.)
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I thought um and Stanford were unofficials with an official for a banquet. Seems he's then going to as many free osu games as possible. Likes nd as a school but who'd turn down tickets to good sec games in your own back yard for your childhood team?
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Sorry lsu
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While I hear what you are saying, my question is this. What is he holding a place for? He has all of the offers he could possibly want correct? Is he holding it only for the event he gets injured? I'll continue to whistle past the graveyard and look for him to be Irish on NSD.