'14 LA DT Courtney Garnett (Oklahoma Signee)

[Redbar]

Ms. Hickey says that he has abandoned the idea to wait until after NSD because, "he couldn't figure out how to do it in time", so he will announce on NSD. "My parents have been great," Garnett said. "We've talked a lot today. My mom is all Oklahoma. My Dad is more about what I think is best for me."

Edit: Clash is more quick than fast.

 

[Irishnuke]

Ms. Hickey says that he has abandoned the idea to wait until after NSD because, "he couldn't figure out how to do it in time", so he will announce on NSD. "My parents have been great," Garnett said. "We've talked a lot today. My mom is all Oklahoma. My Dad is more about what I think is best for me."

Edit: Clash is more quick than fast.

Couldn't figure out how to do what in time? Make a decision?

 

[Redbar]

Couldn't figure out how to do what in time? Make a decision?

I took it to mean that maybe there was some paperwork that needed to be filed or something he needed to declare??? with the NCAA??? I honestly don't know the specifics of that.

 

[Praytorian]

If mom is OK, and dad is more about what I think for me, does that mean he, and his father favor us?
That's what I read out of it at least.

 

[Praytorian]

I hate to say it, but you are probably right. Remember Tuitt's mom got the last word as well.
PS Love the name

 

[rtrn2glory]

i think mom wins out here....outstanding job by the staff late in the game here, if we don't land anyone on NSD it won't be out of a lack of trying. at the very least we are causing a little panic in sooner nation over possibly losing a recruit

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Ishaq too is basically another DE, and Okwara and Councell can line up with their hands on the ground when we go to a four front.

Hearing that Hounshell is basically back to 100% made me a bit less worried about getting another DL. If he can rotate in next year, we are in pretty good shape.

Damn! Thanks! I wanted to include him because he is the lynchpin, no pun intended to how we put enough d-linemen on the field!

45 Okwara, Romeo Outside Linebacker 6-4/258 SO Charlotte, NC/Ardrey Kell
56 Rabasa, Anthony Outside Linebacker 6-2.5/243 JR Miami, FL/Columbus
11 Williams, Ishaq Outside Linebacker 6-5.5/261 JR Brooklyn, NY/Lincoln

My point is, these guys could all be used easily on a four man front with a hand in the dirt, and maybe even on a three man front.

Back to Courtney : Isn't it nice to have a recruit that is so straight forward and taking things so respectfully serious? It almost seems like a change of pace with some of the Shiit Circus that has been playing around here! And isn't it validating to have a recruit from the deep south (dare I say SEC Country) that will end up at a major football power either way, taking what the ND staff has to say so seriously? This almost has cleared my mind of some of the stupid stuff from this recruiting season.

 

[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>DT Courtney Garnett spoke w/ Brian Kelly 3 times today, & he gives the latest on where he (plus mom & dad) stand($): <a href="http://t.co/EPZjHRu0va">http://t.co/EPZjHRu0va</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/statuses/430532401303785472">February 4, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I had a feeling BK was going to work OT on this one. BVG must love this from his HC.

three times?! could kid and Kelly be trying to sell mom and Dad? Does anyone think he has talked to Stoops 3 times?

Definitely a Glengerry Glenn Ross moment here. Not sure about 3 times, but yes.

Like Icaps said, could you imagine how this board would be acting if one of our commits - say, Jay Hayes for positional/stars consistency - told a reporter he'd had three conversations with Bob Stoops today? This is definitely trending in a good direction.
And yeah, for real, get Ma Garnett a map. Norman isn't Baton Rouge.

Since he hasn't said he was firm and is having trouble deciding this has to be going in our favor.

Still torn between ND/OU. First thought it would go longer than nsd, then he thought he'd decide by Wednesday, now he isn't sure. Distance isn't a factor, mom still wants OU. As mentioned, BK talked with Garnett and mother 3 times today.

Ms. Hickey says that he has abandoned the idea to wait until after NSD because, "he couldn't figure out how to do it in time", so he will announce on NSD. "My parents have been great," Garnett said. "We've talked a lot today. My mom is all Oklahoma. My Dad is more about what I think is best for me."


Edit: Clash is more quick than fast.

If mom is OK, and dad is more about what I think for me, does that mean he, and his father favor us?
That's what I read out of it at least.

I think he wants ND and is having a hard time trying to figure out how to tell mom. I like his dad better! lol

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Did Tuitt's mom annoy you?

Terrible analogy. There's zero justification in being "all OU" when comparing it with ND. The proximity to their home isn't even practical (which is what some people are claiming).

Tuitt's mom, btw, always wanted him to get his degree from ND. She understood the importance of it and guided her son to a place that offers the best support and the best opportunity to succeed. Do you think she would've sent him to ND if she knew they only graduated 43% of their players? I doubt it.

If her reasoning is along the lines of being loyal to OU since they've been on him since the beginning, then it's hard to argue. But even then, recruiting is fluid. Parents, coaches, and kids all know that. Don't you think it's wise to consider the best options at a time like this? If so, it's a no-brainer. If this kid truly wants to be Irish and stays at OU because that's what his mom wants...then yea, she annoys me.

 

[IRISHbluehen]

New article up on ISD from Christian. Says that he is torn between OU and ND. Mom definitely wants OU. CBK talked to her several times yesterday, apologizing for joining his recruitment late in the game. To me, it sounds like he wants ND. Talks about ND going to the 4-3 and how that would be better for him as a player. Says he doesn't want to break his commitment to OU because he is a man of his word but he has to do what is best for him. Definitely sounds like it is trending for the good guys.

 

[stlnd01]

Says he doesn't want to break his commitment to OU because he is a man of his word but he has to do what is best for him.

He's been committed to OU for less than a week, and he immediately boarded a plane for South Bend after committing. So it's not like this wasn't a conditional commit at some level. Still, I can see OU (or any program) playing on the "man of his word" stuff.

As for Mom, I get her being more comfortable with sending her son off to the coaches she's known for months now, rather than the crowd that just showed up last week. Wish Garnett had checked his damn voicemail a little sooner. Still, he seems like a smart and thoughtful kid who values education. She should think about the long term. There's really no question here on that front.

 

[Luckylucci]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics.

Is this in relation to GA3 and the 5th year transfers?

 

[Emcee77]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics.

I seriously have no idea what he is talking about. CBK has a "rocky type of program with his players"? Do our players not like BK?

Spot on with McDermott's dad. If you can't see that ND is a stable environment where you will graduate, and OU isn't, then I don't know what to say to you.

 

[greyhammer90]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

What does that even mean? "His program is saving him" but "he has a rocky type of program with his players"?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Definitely going to need some clarification on the Rivals update, Lucci.

 

[IrishLion]

It's probably a reference to the transfers and the discipline of two offensive starters.

I'm guessing it means his mom asked about players leaving/getting in trouble, and BK told them that the program he has in place will always guide them through those issues.

 

[irishfan]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

I'm guessing this has got to be negative recruiting. Other coaches probably pumping up the Declan incident, Kelly's screaming, high profile transfers, Golson academics, etc.

 

[Luckylucci]

The article reads like he is very scattered and almost rambling. That is the entire quote and there is nothing behind it. Mother is a huge OU supporter and I would assume there is some negative recruiting from OU's end that she is believing. Basically its OU's relationship vs. ND's academics and somehow the mother believes BK isn't the right guy for her son. I'll add that I obviously don't know his mother but sometimes lack of intelligence can't lead to naivety. Some people will put more stock in the words of somebody they know versus what is reality or fact. In happens all the time in my business.

 

[Irishnuke]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

I seriously don't understand what they're talking about. WTF is a "rocky type of program?" Didn't we just play for a natty 13 months ago? Maybe they're referring to bitter players, or EV, or Golson. I have no clue.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I seriously don't understand what they're talking about. WTF is a "rocky type of program?" Didn't we just play for a natty 13 months ago? Maybe they're referring to bitter players, or EV, or Golson. I have no clue.

Somehow I think Jim Mora is behind this.....

 

[irishknight35]

Sounds like mom bought into Bob's B.S. and it doesn't seem like she is budging on her stance. Only Garnett himself knows what's best for him. Even if mom was in our corner, which they usually are and it feels extremely weird to see a mom negatively recruit against ND, it's still Courtney's decision to make and live with.

 

[woolybug25]

I seriously don't understand what they're talking about. WTF is a "rocky type of program?" Didn't we just play for a natty 13 months ago? Maybe they're referring to bitter players, or EV, or Golson. I have no clue.

I don't think this is regarding our on the field performance, but rather the drama around our program. The Declan Sullivan tragedy, the Seaburg incident, the transfers, Manti's fake girlfriend, Vanderdoesn't, BK flirting with the NFL, etc. We have been a media mess the last few years.

Growing pains, imo. But a media trainwreck nonetheless.

 

[Luckylucci]

The positive to come from this. It sounds like he is genuinely torn which means we've done a good job in short order with is recruitment. Also, the father doesn't share his mothers sentiments.

 

[STLDomer]

OU 247 is confident in getting Quick and Garnett

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Yeah, Wooly, you are on to something few of us consider. I was talking to one of my sons recently. He was just making the point, how other fans from football factory schools, hate the Irish. That it is full of criminals and rapists. He made a good point about how the superior attitude and goals of ND come off as "holier than thou," and people tend to resent that. So you find others of particular other Christian flavor religious persuasion, or from conferences that feel dissed by ND, or by anyone from the SEC, and they can give you a list of atrocities that no one at ND has ever heard of, in addition to the "rape", "murder", and "payoffs to get to the NC game."

 

[NCND]

OU 247 is confident in getting Quick and Garnett

Yay

 

[Irish#1]

New article up on ISD from Christian. Says that he is torn between OU and ND. Mom definitely wants OU. CBK talked to her several times yesterday, apologizing for joining his recruitment late in the game. To me, it sounds like he wants ND. Talks about ND going to the 4-3 and how that would be better for him as a player. Says he doesn't want to break his commitment to OU because he is a man of his word but he has to do what is best for him. Definitely sounds like it is trending for the good guys.

Have Tranquill give him a call.

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

WTF?

She's definitely being fed a lot of BS. We may have had some problems, but what is wrong with taking a stand on academics (EG)? EV can be explained very easily as some others issues. His mother is only listening to what she wants to hear. Let's not forget that dad is okay with ND. She is probably the dominant parent or at least the most vocal. Dad will take him aside and whisper to him, "Go ahead and pick ND. I'll have your back with your mother".

 

[Emcee77]

OU 247 is confident in getting Quick and Garnett

By itself this doesn't mean much though ... our staff is still confident ND is getting Juju, and literally no one else is saying that.

 

[IrishLax]

Rivals has an update with him from late last night. Same as the other. He's sounds very torn and almost flustered. I found this interesting. "For coach Kelly, it's rough for him, but his program is saving him. He's not a bad coach but he has a rocky type of program with his players and my mom, she addressed that with him. You just don't want to miss the right opportunity, Notre Dame is a great school, and Oklahoma is as well." This reminds me a lot of McDermott's dad comparing Miami and ND's academics. At the end he said "Its probably going to be a spur of the moment decision." It sounds like a coin flip to me.

What the fuck does this even mean? Like Manti Te'o and Everett Golson? I would understand that.

But at the same time, anyone with half a brain looks at the numbers knows that Kelly is doing a fantastic job of getting kids who want to be there from signing to graduation with a meaningful degree. What is Oklahoma's excuse for the fact that the MAJORITY of their players leave OU with NOTHING to show for it?