'14 FL WR Isaiah McKenzie ( Georgia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[NDohio]

The way things work here, between transfers and injuries, wouldn't we be able to sign him sometime late winter/early spring if it turns out that he qualifies after his 1/25/13 test (should he have to take it then)?

I think the main question would be whether we still have room for him at that point. I don't see BK holding a spot open in hopes that he will get the required score. If he did get the required score late and a transfer happened at the right time, then I would think you are correct. Good question.

 

[irishog77]

Superscoring: Scoring with two chicks on the same night.

Or what I simply refer to as, "Just another Tuesday night."


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[NDohio]

I feel very confident saying this. Someone on ND's staff has told II and BGI that they aren't going to be accepting his verbal until he's qualified. This isn't a recruiting service conspiracy if you want to be pissed be pissed at the staff because more than likely they are the one relaying this info to the sites.

Wooly - this is the post that stuck in my mind.

 

[woolybug25]

Wooly - this is the post that stuck in my mind.

I see. If that was the case, wouldn't that would be a recruiting violation. Even if it wasn't, what would the staff possibly gain by discussing this type of thing with II? They know (evidenced by them reporting it) that they will go public with it, opening the staff to possible violations or pissing off a possible future commit.

Don't buy it.

 

[Emcee77]

Wooly - this is the post that stuck in my mind.

Good find. I think that's about the size of it.

 

[NDohio]

I see. If that was the case, wouldn't that would be a recruiting violation. Even if it wasn't, what would the staff possibly gain by discussing this type of thing with II? They know (evidenced by them reporting it) that they will go public with it, opening the staff to possible violations or pissing off a possible future commit.

Don't buy it.

Valid point. I haven't followed recruiting as long as some others so I don't know the historical aspect of when the staff considers a recruit a verbal or not if his academic status is very questionable.

It just seems that there is a lot of talking in circles on whether IM is on the board as a verbal or not.

 

[Luckylucci]

I see. If that was the case, wouldn't that would be a recruiting violation. Even if it wasn't, what would the staff possibly gain by discussing this type of thing with II? They know (evidenced by them reporting it) that they will go public with it, opening the staff to possible violations or pissing off a possible future commit.

Don't buy it.

They just can't talk about recruits publicly. Members of our staff definitely talk recruiting off the record with these journalists all the time. Thats how info gets passed around. Obviously they don't come out on twitter. Also, the staff wants to make sure that the accurate and correct info gets out there. Thats in there best interest so confirming this definitely makes sense.

 

[Emcee77]

They just can't talk about recruits publicly. Members of our staff definitely talk recruiting off the record with these journalists all the time. Thats how info gets passed around. Obviously they don't come out on twitter. Also, the staff wants to make sure that the accurate and correct info gets out there. Thats in there best interest so confirming this definitely makes sense.

Right, no question. Some of the info that recruiting reporters have could not come from anywhere but the relevant coaching staff. After a couple years on BGI I am certain that 247 reporters talk to people in the football office. Some people even speculate that a member of the staff even POSTS on II (as tj34), but I'm not an II subscriber so I can't speak to that.

 

[woolybug25]

They just can't talk about recruits publicly. Members of our staff definitely talk recruiting off the record with these journalists all the time. Thats how info gets passed around. Obviously they don't come out on twitter. Also, the staff wants to make sure that the accurate and correct info gets out there. Thats in there best interest so confirming this definitely makes sense.

Never said that they dont. But are you saying that you think the staff would purposely tell say... Loy, that they aren't accepting IM's commitment so he can publicly share personal information about IM? Opening the young man to the criticism and questions he has been subjected to since?

What do they gain from that?

 

[Luckylucci]

Never said that they dont. But are you saying that you think the staff would purposely tell say... Loy, that they aren't accepting IM's commitment so he can publicly share personal information about IM? Opening the young man to the criticism and questions he has been subjected to since?

What do they gain from that?

It was IM's choice to announce the way he did. It is in ND's best interest to have the accurate and correct info out there. I fully believe that somebody within our program told Loy that they don't consider him a commit. If we did consider him a commit there would be no reason to recruit Nelson, right?

 

[woolybug25]

It was IM's choice to announce the way he did. It is in ND's best interest to have the accurate and correct info out there. I fully believe that somebody within our program told Loy that they don't consider him a commit. If we did consider him a commit there would be no reason to recruit Nelson, right?

Loy was saying that he wasn't considering him as a commit because IM told him he hadn't talked to the staff yet. Loy was saying it before he even tried to reach out to any "contacts", because he heard it from the horse's mouth.

Nothing changes in their current process with or without IM's verbal in my opinion. There is no big time recruit we could miss on because of IM's commitment. So I just don't see how "accurate info" that negatively effects a young man that they obviously want on our team helps the staff. It would be a senseless outing of a young man trying to become part of our program. The staff gains nothing from it.

In regards to Nelson. The scores are a real issue, regardless of how we found out. I don't see how that is relevant to whether or not the staff chose to purposely out IM to the press.

 

[Luckylucci]

Loy was saying that he wasn't considering him as a commit because IM told him he hadn't talked to the staff yet. Loy was saying it before he even tried to reach out to any "contacts", because he heard it from the horse's mouth.

Nothing changes in their current process with or without IM's verbal in my opinion. There is no big time recruit we could miss on because of IM's commitment. So I just don't see how "accurate info" that negatively effects a young man that they obviously want on our team helps the staff. It would be a senseless outing of a young man trying to become part of our program. The staff gains nothing from it.

In regards to Nelson. The scores are a real issue, regardless of how we found out. I don't see how that is relevant to whether or not the staff chose to purposely out IM to the press.

Then when he was able to talk to his sources they told him that ND wasn't considering him a verbal commit at this time. Not sure where you think he got that from but I would imagine it was somebody in our program.

 

[IrishLax]

Lucky is pretty darn accurate in what he is saying here, and I think we can leave it at that. It's all splitting hairs.

 

[woolybug25]

Then when he was able to talk to his sources they told him that ND wasn't considering him a verbal commit at this time. Not sure where you think he got that from but I would imagine it was somebody in our program.

I still don't believe that the staff would publicly say that they have 19 commits and embarrass IM like that.

 

[rtrn2glory]

if he qualifies or not gotta at least give the kid credit for working his rear end off

 

[NDohio]

if he qualifies or not gotta at least give the kid credit for working his rear end off

Agree. And because of that effort I really hope he qualifies. He really wants to be a part of ND.

 

[Irish To The Core]

I am buoyed by Isaiah's comments about the test and reports of him working his tail off. If he succeeds this experience will pay dividends for him academically when he comes to Notre Dame. I am cheering for him not because of his football skills but because he clearly wants to go to Notre Dame so badly. You cannot have enough of those true Notre Dame men in the dressing room.

 

[Irish#1]

I am buoyed by Isaiah's comments about the test and reports of him working his tail off. If he succeeds this experience will pay dividends for him academically when he comes to Notre Dame. I am cheering for him not because of his football skills but because he clearly wants to go to Notre Dame so badly. You cannot have enough of those true Notre Dame men in the dressing room.

Valid point. It can only help him once he's enrolled.

 

[ND4LIFE]

I am buoyed by Isaiah's comments about the test and reports of him working his tail off. If he succeeds this experience will pay dividends for him academically when he comes to Notre Dame. I am cheering for him not because of his football skills but because he clearly wants to go to Notre Dame so badly. You cannot have enough of those true Notre Dame men in the dressing room.

I would prefer if they were in the locker room vs. the dressing room!

 

[Irish To The Core]

I would prefer if they were in the locker room vs. the dressing room!

lol...yeah

 

[TheChosen1]

I'm concerned if he he has to work this hard to get into ND; how hard is he going to have to work when/if he gets there.

 

[Ironman8]

I'm concerned if he he has to work this hard to get into ND; how hard is he going to have to work when/if he gets there.

With the support system in place at ND, if you have the willingness to put in the work, you WILL graduate. Period.

 

[tko]

With the support system in place at ND, if you have the willingness to put in the work, you WILL graduate. Period.

Truth

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Not that anyone wasn't rooting for this kid to make it but: Isaiah McKenzie starting to find his way in life at American Heritage - Broward High Schools - MiamiHerald.com

 

[NDPhilly]

“@TJamesNDI: That story claims McKenzie has a 2.7 GPA and needs an 850 on SAT. Academics previously halted a commitment attempt. Isaiah McKenzie starting to find his way in life at American Heritage - Broward High Schools - MiamiHerald.com

Ouch.

 

[IrishLax]

“@TJamesNDI: That story claims McKenzie has a 2.7 GPA and needs an 850 on SAT. Academics previously halted a commitment attempt. Isaiah McKenzie starting to find his way in life at American Heritage - Broward High Schools - MiamiHerald.com

Ouch.

Heard earlier in the year he had like a 2.0 coming into his senior year and has been working his butt off. I really hope it all works out for him.

 

[NDdomer2]

i remember watching one of the Atkinson highlight films and reading"gpa 2.7"

 

[aubeirish]

850? Don't you get that just for writing your name?

 

[jimmymac]

If its really 850, then ND does not have any real academic standards.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

If its really 850, then ND does not have any real academic standards.

I am willing to bet that it isn't 850 for everyone. They are probably allowed a few exception each year