'10 NC LB Kendall Moore (Notre Dame Signee)

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You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.
 

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You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.

I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?
 
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You guys are getting way to high on this kid because he can hit real nice....
He will not see the field unless its AF/NAVY/obvious running downs.

He is undisciplined/does not know how to play assignment football on passing downs.

Will probably be back next season but not for good reasons.

I am not intending to be high on him. I am frustrated with the coaching staff, however.

Did you watch Kelly's post game press conference. Was it my imagination, or did you hear Kelly admit that the Irish were not using the correct defensive schemes, leaving Jaylon on an island with contain, qb and pitch man, and not using the right blocking scheme, zone against a three man front that buries the nose man deep, where a gap scheme would be infinitely better?

I am also not intending to be high on Anthony Rasaba, but I thought he played very large while he was in! I am interested in your comments.
 

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I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?

I agree.

I will say this tho. Expecting him to come in and play like a late round pick is probably unrealistic. However, I think he can effectively take the place of Carlo, since they have similar strengths and weaknesses.
 

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I agree.

I will say this tho. Expecting him to come in and play like a late round pick is probably unrealistic. However, I think he can effectively take the place of Carlo, since they have similar strengths and weaknesses.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing. No reason Moore can't come back next year and be an effective WILL who is tough against the run and at least decent against the pass, in a square-peg-in-a-round-hole kind of way (which is to say a bit worse than decent, lol, but good enough to get on the field).
 

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I think this sounds a bit critical, to put it nicely. I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to say he is undisciplined and does not know how to play assignment football. The coaches have intimated this, but never have they/would they characterize it in such a way that, "this is just who he is". Kendall is a work in progress just like every other guy who has ever put on the gold helmet. People are getting excited because the kid makes a lot of plays when he is playing in his comfort zone (the run game), maybe he can improve in the passing game like... just about every other linebacker on the team and maybe he will figure out "who to hit" as Coach said, or maybe he will be a situational player. Either way your post comes across like he can't or won't improve and like we shouldn't cheer on a guy who plays with great passion and energy despite very limited minutes. If we can't be excited about him who should we get excited about?

Work in progress, he's been here 4 years already.
I cheer him on, he's a ND football player, everytime i've talked to him after practice i've told him nothing but things like, great job today kid,way to get after it, looking good. And look i know you've only had the chance to see him on limited TV time but i've had the chance to see him now for a couple of years in practice and 3rd string is his place in a good defense.

On a team with nobody sure he would be playing and making great hits but his team would suffer when he has to play coverage. Welch,Koyack,Heurman,Smythe wear him out.

Dont you thing Diaco would have him out there if he trusted him.... just saying
 

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Work in progress, he's been here 4 years already.
I cheer him on, he's a ND football player, everytime i've talked to him after practice i've told him nothing but things like, great job today kid,way to get after it, looking good. And look i know you've only had the chance to see him on limited TV time but i've had the chance to see him now for a couple of years in practice and 3rd string is his place in a good defense.

On a team with nobody sure he would be playing and making great hits but his team would suffer when he has to play coverage. Welch,Koyack,Heurman,Smythe wear him out.

Dont you thing Diaco would have him out there if he trusted him.... just saying

Manti was a work in progress going in to his senior year. I am not saying, nor have I ever said he should be starting or he is getting hosed. I bumped the thread to acknowledge a really nice game for a guy who always comes in and plays with great effort and violence even though his minutes are extremely limited. I think that is worth cheering. I would like to think he is working on his game in such a way that at some point, maybe in his fifth year, when we will be "ILB thin" he can carve out a niche. If not, I still think it was worth acknowledging his effort this past Saturday. I do think he would be valuable on this team next year, for the reason stated above, and am curious why you think he will be asked back "but not for good reasons."
 
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Irishfan: very interesting semi-inside comments. They fit VERY well with the coachspeak hints I've heard over two years, and the witnessing of the few real game [and Spring game] plays we've been able to watch.

When we on IE are discussing some "bench" player, or someone that some of us don't believe is getting enough reps, and you have some of these thoughts: Please share them with us. We on IE are typically starving for actual "earned opinions", rather than knee-jerk stream-of-consciousness opinions.


Redbar: of course I agree with you too about our constant duty to congratulate our guys for their accomplishments. So, kudos to that as well.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on senior LB Kendall Moore: "He's left...a favorable impression about where he's going, where he's trending."</p>— Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/statuses/402853016333586432">November 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Aka he is playing his way into a 5th year
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on senior LB Kendall Moore: "He's left...a favorable impression about where he's going, where he's trending."</p>— Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/statuses/402853016333586432">November 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Aka he is playing his way into a 5th year

feels like Kendall has been here for about 6 or 7 years already
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a> HC Brian Kelly on senior LB Kendall Moore: "He's left...a favorable impression about where he's going, where he's trending."</p>— Brian Hamilton (@ChiTribHamilton) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiTribHamilton/statuses/402853016333586432">November 19, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Aka he is playing his way into a 5th year

I think he could be very effective in the middle next year. I hope he gets a 5th year.
 

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Nicely done Kendall. That has to feel good and hopefully we see some inspired play the next two weeks out of him.

I would much rather keep someone like him around another year than stretch on a less than awesome recruit.
 

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Jonas Gray looked like an absolute BEAST on his high school mix tape, and his measurables were awesome. When he got in games at ND his freshman and sophmore years, he would look really good, but then make some stupid mistake and get yanked. The guys that played over him never seemed as good to me. But finally, the light went on and he tore it up. The talent was there the whole time, but it all finally came together.

I wonder if we are going to see the same thing with Moore. He looks like the most talented, hard-hitting MLB we have. However, he has a hard time getting on the field because he apparently can't cover. IMO, if Carlo can cover, than nothing should stop KM from covering.

Some guys are just not that talented. Some freaks are just not football players. And then some guys are a little unexplainable. JG escaped that last category. Here's hoping KM does too!
 

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Some guys are just not that talented. Some freaks are just not football players. And then some guys are a little unexplainable. JG escaped that last category. Here's hoping KM does too!

Steve Filer?
 

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I hope he takes this opportunity to put his best effort forward. Not just on the practice field, but also in the weight room, on the treadmill and at the lunch table. Really put a concentrated effort in being the best football player he can be.

If he does that, he can be a great player for us.

But we'll see if he can pull off the type of effort we saw from guys like Jonas Gray, as Domina said above.
 
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He can't possibly be worse than Calabrese. He's just as much of a big-hitter and we haven't seen him do much in coverage - just like Carlo.

And yet Carlo started over the last four years and Moore didn't. I think that means he can possibly be worse...
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Collinsworth, Lombard, Moore, Utupo back for 5th years at <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NotreDame&src=hash">#NotreDame</a>, sources tell <a href="https://twitter.com/espn">@espn</a> <a href="http://t.co/UIdh9TDj7x">http://t.co/UIdh9TDj7x</a> 1st reported by <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals">@NDatRivals</a></p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/statuses/423931796271529984">January 16, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Nice. I see a Kapron type of 5th year from him on the horizon. He had a taste of success at the end of last season and I think he'll put in the time during the offseason to become great.
 

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someone think of the Heggie :( :(

I take it him and Massa the only 2 not to get a 5th?
 
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