Lane Kiffin Fired

[Rhode Irish]

Hard to blame him. Once the Manziel gravy train leaves the station, USC is clearly a better gig than aTm (no pun intended).

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Best signs @ Gameday:

"Lane Kiffin Owns a Blockbuster"

and

"Fire Kiffin" (Stanford fan poking fun at how uninformed and out of touch USC fans are)

 

[TheChosen1]

Jay Glazer‏@JayGlazer9m

USC Pat Hayden flew to Denver two weeks ago and interviewed Jack Del Rio for their head coaching job. ... tmi.me - JayGlazer: USC Pat Hayden

 

[connect the dots]

Jay Glazer‏@JayGlazer9m

Did you watch the Stanford game? Ed Orgeron has the Trojans playing with enthusiasm and intensity. He's made a believer out of me. I'll be watching the UCLA game on November 30th. Pat Haden and USC have their head ball coach. After the game, Orgeron was directing the band as fans swarmed the field. He's quite the character, and his players will work hard for him.

 

[Rack Em]

But one has to wonder if Ed O wants to coach the Trojans or sell Hummers.

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[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Did you watch the Stanford game? Ed Orgeron has the Trojans playing with enthusiasm and intensity. He's made a believer out of me. I'll be watching the UCLA game on November 30th. Pat Haden and USC have their head ball coach. After the game, Orgeron was directing the band as fans swarmed the field. He's quite the character, and his players will work hard for him.

That's why I hope they hire someone else.

 

[ThePiombino]

But one has to wonder if Ed O wants to coach the Trojans or sell Hummers.

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Tell 'em JoJo

 

[Rocket 94]

Did you watch the Stanford game? Ed Orgeron has the Trojans playing with enthusiasm and intensity. He's made a believer out of me. I'll be watching the UCLA game on November 30th. Pat Haden and USC have their head ball coach. After the game, Orgeron was directing the band as fans swarmed the field. He's quite the character, and his players will work hard for him.

Not sure that Ed Orgeron will be an elite coach though. He has them playing well now but let's see how he does if he gets the job. I am not convinced and hoping they do hire him as I think we will have the coaching advantage.

He can say he has learned from his 10-25 stint at Ole Miss but not sure that is enough to say he will be a success at USC.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

More Del Rio stuff

Denver Broncos' Jack Del Rio interviewed to be USC Trojans coach - ESPN Los Angeles

 

[drayer54]

Hard to blame him. Once the Manziel gravy train leaves the station, USC is clearly a better gig than aTm (no pun intended).

Big new stadium renovation coming and much much improved recruiting classes put this comment in the dead wrong section.

That gig has become one of the better ones around.

 

[stlnd01]

Big new stadium renovation coming and much much improved recruiting classes put this comment in the dead wrong section.

That gig has become one of the better ones around.

Their recruiting probably got a pop from joining the SEC, and the better they compete there the better they'll do. But the quality of recruiting classes also has a lot to do with the coaching staff and the - likely short-term - decline of UT (not to mention the ability to sign 35 guys). If (when?) Sumlin leaves and UT gets back on track, there are no structural reasons why A&M is a better job than USC.

 

[Redbar]

Big new stadium renovation coming and much much improved recruiting classes put this comment in the dead wrong section.

That gig has become one of the better ones around.

Unless Saban takes the Texas job, then it's back to being lil brother in the Lone Star State.

 

[connect the dots]

Not sure that Ed Orgeron will be an elite coach though. He has them playing well now but let's see how he does if he gets the job. I am not convinced and hoping they do hire him as I think we will have the coaching advantage.

He can say he has learned from his 10-25 stint at Ole Miss but not sure that is enough to say he will be a success at USC.

Ed Orgeron has head ball coach written all over his Cro Magnon forehead. What coaching advantage? Bob Diaco? Chuck Martin? If those two aren't question marks in Notre Dame's future success! In any event, the November 30th matchup with UCLA should be interesting. Should USC play with intensity and enthusiasm, it will confirm that Orgeron has gotten the football program out of an awful mess.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Ed Orgeron has head ball coach written all over his Cro Magnon forehead. What coaching advantage? Bob Diaco? Chuck Martin? If those two aren't question marks in Notre Dame's future success! In any event, the November 30th matchup with UCLA should be interesting. Should USC play with intensity and enthusiasm, it will confirm that Orgeron has gotten the football program out of an awful mess.

I hope he gets the job. Of all the people talked about, he is the least worrisome. Sure the players are excited now, why wouldn't they be? By all accounts they hated what was going on and a giant burden was released from their shoulders. They have nothing to lose and it shows. Coach o would be a terrible hire given the attractiveness of usc.

 

[IrishLax]

Coach O would be a laughably bad hire. He's basically Les Miles, and the moment he has an adversity out there the LA types will eat him alive. This is a post-Kiffin honeymoon. So I doubt Haden hires him.

The best thing ever is if USC keeps winning and Haden hires someone who wants to clean house. That will **** off soooooo many people and recruits. From my couple USC friends, they all freaking love how opposite to Kiffin he is and will be PISSED if he's not on the staff in some capacity next year.

 

[Emcee77]

I'm still wondering where Kiffin will end up. I think his head coaching career is likely over, or at least he will have to prove himself all over again to get another head coaching opportunity, but he's got to get a look from somebody as an OC, right?

 

[ACamp1900]

From my couple USC friends,.

I always knew there was something wrong with you...

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Well, he's got 49 states with smaller programs / positions that could conceivably hire him.

EDIT: I was looking for a picture of the UT fans burning matress' when Kiffin announced he was leaving them after only one year. They were all low-res, but I did find this gem:

Best part-- as soon as he's hired, it's applicable again!

 

[irishpat183]

Their recruiting probably got a pop from joining the SEC, and the better they compete there the better they'll do. But the quality of recruiting classes also has a lot to do with the coaching staff and the - likely short-term - decline of UT (not to mention the ability to sign 35 guys). If (when?) Sumlin leaves and UT gets back on track, there are no structural reasons why A&M is a better job than USC.

Unless Saban takes the Texas job, then it's back to being lil brother in the Lone Star State.

I don't know about that...I think the SEC, coupled with the cult like following at A&M makes this a very attractive job, and one that will likely get over the "UT's little brother" hump

 

[ACamp1900]

I don't know about that...I think the SEC, coupled with the cult like following at A&M makes this a very attractive job, and one that will likely get over the "UT's little brother" hump

Wait, and you LIVE in Texas?? That will always be a UT state.

 

[Irish#1]

Wait, and you LIVE in Texas?? That will always be a UT state.

Agree, A&M will never replace the Longhorns as the matriarch of Texas football.

 

[irishpat183]

Wait, and you LIVE in Texas?? That will always be a UT state.

Agree, A&M will never replace the Longhorns as the matriarch of Texas football.

I didn't say "replace". I'm saying they're going to build their own rep and get out from under the shadow.

And despite what you may think...UT is the "state" favorite...but cities like Houston are very Aggie friendly.

 

[ACamp1900]

A&M fans are pretty out there in terms of Texas bases… most are pretty good,… A&M fans have a major step child, chip on their shoulder thing going on… it’s who they are… That would be one major shift in identity more than anything...

 

[ResLife Hero]

I didn't say "replace". I'm saying they're going to build their own rep and get out from under the shadow.

And despite what you may think...UT is the "state" favorite...but cities like Houston are very Aggie friendly.

A&M has a HUGE following in the DFW area as well. Heck, I drive by 2 giant A&M billboards every morning on the way to work and probably know more Aggies than Longhorns that are my age.

UT is still the "big brother", but I don't think they're going to be able to quash A&M's rise without some external help.

 

[irishpat183]

A&M fans are pretty out there in terms of Texas bases… most are pretty good,… A&M fans have a major step child, chip on their shoulder thing going on… it’s who they are… That would be one major shift in identity more than anything...

A&M has a HUGE following in the DFW area as well. Heck, I drive by 2 giant A&M billboards every morning on the way to work and probably know more Aggies than Longhorns that are my age.

UT is still the "big brother", but I don't think they're going to be able to quash A&M's rise without some external help.

Exactly. They're getting closer and closer. And the Ags joing the SEC just closed the gap even more.

And Sumlin is recruiting his *** off.

 

[stlnd01]

Coach O would be a laughably bad hire. He's basically Les Miles, and the moment he has an adversity out there the LA types will eat him alive. This is a post-Kiffin honeymoon. So I doubt Haden hires him.

The best thing ever is if USC keeps winning and Haden hires someone who wants to clean house. That will **** off soooooo many people and recruits. From my couple USC friends, they all freaking love how opposite to Kiffin he is and will be PISSED if he's not on the staff in some capacity next year.

I know he gives a goofy press conference but Les Miles wins a hell of a lot of football games and his teams play hard. USC could do a lot worse than "basically Les Miles." Like, say Jack Del Rio.
To your second point (and fortunately for us), though, it's hard to envision USC hiring someone else and Orgeron sticking around. Even if not USC, he'll get good offers after this episode.

 

[Irish#1]

I didn't say "replace". I'm saying they're going to build their own rep and get out from under the shadow.

And despite what you may think...UT is the "state" favorite...but cities like Houston are very Aggie friendly.

I'm not sure I agree with that. I've paid attention to UT football since the 67. A&M has had their peaks before, but they never have been able to step out of the shadow of the Longhorns.

 

[stlnd01]

I'm not sure I agree with that. I've paid attention to UT football since the 67. A&M has had their peaks before, but they never have been able to step out of the shadow of the Longhorns.

Yeah. Aside from a few years in the mid-80s and the early 90s, is there a time going back to the 40s when A&M has been better, on a sustained basis, than Texas? And is joining the SEC enough to change the dynamics that led to that?
If not, they're riding Sumlin (and Manziel), and the whole basis of the question of which is a better job presumes that Sumlin doesn't stick around.

 

[STLDomer]

USC 247 guy is hearing they will offer the job to Petersen and if he passes it will probably be given to Ed O

 

[IrishLax]

USC 247 guy is hearing they will offer the job to Petersen and if he passes it will probably be given to Ed O

Not sure if I buy that, but we can all pray.