Oct 5 | Arizona State

[PANDFAN]

if anyone can tell me how to post pics i take with my phone, i'll keep updating all weekend

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[NDdomer2]

Pregame Six Pack: Shamrocks and Sun Devils | Inside the Irish

Right now, Notre Dame’s defense ranks a wretched 91st in the country on third downs, allowing opponents to convert at better than a 42 percent clip. That’s helped opponents extend drives, score points, and win football games.

Tim Prister of IrishIllustrated.com took a look at one of the big differences between this defense and last year’s edition, with this group already giving up ten touchdown drives of 75-yards or more.

No statistic is more startling than the number of long scoring drives surrendered by the Irish in five games this year. Temple equaled the number of 75-yard touchdown drives from the previous season in the first half of the first game.

Michigan added four more lengthy touchdown drives of 77, 75, 78 and 75 yards. Purdue had a pair of 75-yarders. Michigan State added another. Oklahoma had two, including an 88-yard drive late in the first half.

In 20 quarters of football so far this season, Notre Dame’s defense has allowed 10 – repeat, 10 – touchdown drives of 75 yards or more. Michigan State also had a 15-play, 75-yard field-goal drive and Oklahoma had a nine-play 65-yard field-goal drive.

A lot of factors go into these struggles — pass rush issues, struggles with man coverage, ill-timed blitzes. But Kelly thinks his defense is close. We’ll find out Saturday night if he’s right.

We're gonna get clobbered. Play the freshmen now so they'll get experience for next year.

As the season rounds into its second act, freshmen are starting to step forward.

Don’t look know, but that heralded recruiting class Notre Dame landed is going to be called on to start helping win some football games. While some expect Brian Kelly to plug and play elite recruits, that just hasn’t been this coaching staff’s m.o. while in South Bend. Yet slowly but surely, a group many thought was among the best in the country on paper have started to make their presence felt on the field as well.

Let’s take a look at the freshmen that’ll likely be playing a key role on Saturday night:

Jaylon Smith — Starting OLB will carry the load for much of the game with Ben Councell suspended for the first half.
Tarean Folston — Atkinson’s breakout was great, but Folston might have moved into the No. 2 role.
Will Fuller — He’s had catches now in back to back games.
Isaac Rochelle — With Sheldon Day still struggling with an ankle injury, Rochelle’s been called into action early.
Cole Luke — The team’s starting nickel back, Luke will be facing a dangerous offense that plays just ten minutes from his Arizona home.
Corey Robinson — Averaging over 16 yards on his four catches. Is a red zone look coming next?
Steve Elmer — Already a versatile substitute on a group with plenty of depth.
James Onwualu — Yet to make his first catch, Onwualu has been physical blocking and on special teams.
Devin Butler — Another freshman that’s climbed the depth chart, Butler’s getting significant reps in coverage packages.
Max Redfield — The fourth safety on the two-deep, Redfield’s close to seeing the field.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

if anyone can tell me how to post pics i take with my phone, i'll keep updating all weekend

Do you use Tapatalk on your phone?

 

[PLACforever]

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[IrishLax]

Marion Grice will show everyone on Saturday why taking JUCOs is important. Taylor Kelly -- a basically unrated recruit from Idaho -- will have people shaking their heads about QB recruiting.

At the end of the day, the more I look at Arizona State's offense the more screwed I think we are unless we've made wholesale changes to scheme this week. Only prayer is to force a couple turnovers and run the ball super effectively. Our entire DL -- which was supposed to be the strength of the team -- is banged up and I have no reason to believe we'll be able to generate any kind of pass rush or contain Kelly.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I found this snippet from Keith Arnold's "Pregame Six Pack" very informative:

On his weekly appearance on SiriusXM’s College Football Playbook with Jack Arute and former UCLA coach Rick Neuheisel, Kelly was asked pointedly about Rees’s struggles, and he gave this window into the varying reasons.

“It’s all man to man coverage, the last two weeks has been straight man to man. Part of it has been, you’re not getting any cupcake throws,” Kelly told Arute and Neuheisel. “So he’s got to be able to connect at probably a 55 percent completion ratio.

“In our estimation, he missed his last seven in a row late in the game on some basic stuff. He had three of them knocked down, two of them on poor routes, and one of them where we got pushed back into the pocket. We’re talking about a little bit of everything. Not being accurate enough in man to man coverage. We’re talking about a number of young receivers not getting open in man coverage, not doing a good job of stair stepping or coming off rubs or making tough catches in man to man coverage, and that’s all adding up to a poor completion percentage rating.”

Definitely raises my hopes that Rees can play well enough for us to win.

At the end of the day, the more I look at Arizona State's offense the more screwed I think we are unless we've made wholesale changes to scheme this week. Only prayer is to force a couple turnovers and run the ball super effectively. Our entire DL -- which was supposed to be the strength of the team -- is banged up and I have no reason to believe we'll be able to generate any kind of pass rush or contain Kelly.

Why? ASU's offense is very similar to OU's, and our defense played well enough to win that game.

 

[IrishLax]

Why? ASU's offense is very similar to OU's, and our defense played well enough to win that game.

Saying ASU's offense is very similar to OU's is like saying a 911 Carrera and a 911 Turbo S are similar because they're both Porsche 911s. It's true, but it undermines the fact that one has a lot more muscle.

Taylor Kelly is so much better than Blake Bell it is disturbing. He's more accurate, more dynamic with his legs, and smarter. Marion Grice is so much better than any of the backs OU has... just incredibly versatile and electric. OL? WR? I don't know if there is much of a difference or if it will really matter. If we insist on playing 8 yards off WRs, and covering slot receivers and RBs with our ILBs, it's going to be irrelevant.

The stops we got against OU in their 450+ yards of offense/25 first downs were directly related to us stuffing Blake Bell on obvious 3rd and short runs, and him missing a few wide open guys. Doubt that happens this week. I think we need some turnovers and a fast start for once to have a shot.

The saving grace is that ASU's defense is likely a LOT worse than Oklahoma's. And definitely a lot worse than MSU. So scoring should be up.

 

[PANDFAN]

Saying ASU's offense is very similar to OU's is like saying a 911 Carrera and a 911 Turbo S are similar because they're both Porsche 911s. It's true, but it undermines the fact that one has a lot more muscle.

Taylor Kelly is so much better than Blake Bell it is disturbing. He's more accurate, more dynamic with his legs, and smarter. Marion Grice is so much better than any of the backs OU has... just incredibly versatile and electric. OL? WR? I don't know if there is much of a difference or if it will really matter. If we insist on playing 8 yards off WRs, and covering slot receivers and RBs with our ILBs, it's going to be irrelevant.

The stops we got against OU in their 450+ yards of offense/25 first downs were directly related to us stuffing Blake Bell on obvious 3rd and short runs, and him missing a few wide open guys. Doubt that happens this week. I think we need some turnovers and a fast start for once to have a shot.

Lax you have been hanging out w/ Irishpat lately haven't you??? or is it the doom and gloom from watching Breaking Bad...:smilewink

 

[military_irish]

Not saying these two teams are similar but I remember last year when people were saying Miami would blow by Notre Dame with their "Florida" speed.

We see how that turned out.

I am not saying a similar outcome is to be expected but when two teams step on the field anything is bound to happen.

This ASU team is getting a lot of credit for beating two teams in their low point. Wisconsin is not the Wisconsin of the Brett Bielema days or even the Barry Alvarez days and USC is far from the Pete Carroll days.

Do I think Notre Dame will step on the field and win in a blowout? More than likely not, but I also don't see ASU winning in a blowout either.

 

[PANDFAN]

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[PLACforever]

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Not that you can tell, but lunch with Jenkins.

 

[ndfi78]

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Looks like the view from my seats, I'm on the other side of the press box.

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[ACamp1900]

I'm still upset over how this is playing out... ASU with two less years under their head coach and with far inferior talent bases, is expected to handle ND with two extra years and a FAR superior talent base... I am really over the excuses at this point... I've never questioned the staff more than I have been doing this week... this current dynamic we are seeing against ASU is absolutely unacceptable imo… assuming the 'experts' are correct and we lose this game

Time to show up and "pull a Utah"...

 

[Luckylucci]

I'm still upset over how this is playing out... ASU with two less years under their head coach and with far inferior talent bases, is expected to handle ND with two extra years and a FAR superior talent base... I am really over the excuses at this point... I've never questioned the staff more than I have been doing this week... this current dynamic we are seeing against ASU is absolutely unacceptable imo… assuming the 'experts' are correct and we lose this game

Time to show up and "pull a Utah"...

Damn, lets at least let the kids play before you throw in the towel.

 

[ACamp1900]

Damn, lets at least let the kids play before you throw in the towel.

I'm not speaking to the game itself as much as the widely held assumption that ASU is so much further ahead... re-read the post.

 

[tko]

Is is strange I have this pit in my stomach that ND will completely play like morons without any heart and determination and get blown out of the stadium? Heading to the airport now for Dallas.

 

[Kanye West]

Is is strange I have this pit in my stomach that ND will completely play like morons without any heart and determination and get blown out of the stadium? Heading to the airport now for Dallas.

Well go down 21 and cut it down to 7 and have a redzone turnover and lose by 14

 

[returnofthemack]

Is is strange I have this pit in my stomach that ND will completely play like morons without any heart and determination and get blown out of the stadium? Heading to the airport now for Dallas.

No way! That would go completely against what we've seen in almost every big game ND has played in for the last 20+ years.

 

[tko]

No way! That would go completely against what we've seen in almost every big game ND has played in for the last 20+ years.

So true. This has a bob davie vs Oregon state feel if I've ever seen one. I will say the game in Norman last year was something special along with USC. This year we've gone back in time though.

 

[ThePiombino]

Damn, lets at least let the kids play before you throw in the towel.

Seriously.

 

[IrishLax]

In Kelly's tenure whenever the team hits rock bottom they tend to rebound hard.

2010 losses to Navy/Tulsa = 4 game winning streak including #14 Utah, USC for the first time in forever, and a stomping of Miami.

2011 losses to USF and Michigan = stomping of VERY good MSU team.

It seems the team takes on an attitude of:
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My only fear is that we haven't hit that point yet. Maybe we get smacked by ASU and then that is the low point. Maybe the low point is after losses to ASU & USC. But at some point you have to think that this team isn't going to start flat, is going to get some turnovers to go their way, etc.

Hopefully we run all over ASU and this week is the turnaround.

 

[BGIF]

Is is strange I have this pit in my stomach that ND will completely play like morons without any heart and determination and get blown out of the stadium? Heading to the airport now for Dallas.

This is a trap game for ASU between USC and Colorado.

 

[returnofthemack]

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[Folsteam_Ahead]

No way! That would go completely against what we've seen in almost every big game ND has played in for the last 20+ years.

is that sarcasm without italics?

 

[woolybug25]

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Off topic question...


Why oh why in Apple's infinite wisdom have they not added the ability to make IMG codes on iPhoto yet? I mean we are on its 10,000th update. Not one 18 year old cpu geek at Apple has thought of this?

 

[rikkitikki08]

ND 31
ASU 17

Running game goes B.A.N.A.N.A.S.

 

[NDdomer2]

Acamp it is simple. they have a qb playmaker we do not.

This is not a shot at Tommy

 

[koonja]

Nick Martin will have to have himself a game, because that #90 for ASU is the real deal.

We need to run the ball and control the clock IMO. The less chances ASU's QB has, the better,

 

[Whiskeyjack]

FO's Matt Hinton just predicted an Irish loss:

ARIZONA STATE (–5.5) vs. NOTRE DAME • 7:30 pm (NBC) from Arlington, TX.
Under any other circumstances, the 600-yard, 62-point bomb Arizona State dropped on USC last week would have been an obvious validation, at the expense of a blue-chip defense that, at kickoff, was ranked in the top ten nationally in every major category. As it was, the Sun Devils were relegated to bit players in the unfolding drama of The Kiffining. But while random collapses by the Trojan defense are nothing new, we've seen enough from this ASU attack to give it the benefit of whatever doubt may still exist. At their best, the Devils have specialized in the second-half ambush. Against Wisconsin, they scored on three consecutive, extended touchdown drives in the third and fourth quarters, just enough to survive the Badgers' final counterpunch. After a miserable, scoreless first half at Stanford, they scored 28 points after the break to bring an impending blowout back from the brink. After falling behind against USC, 21–20, in the first minute of the third quarter, they drove the nail in Kiffin's coffin by ripping off 28 consecutive points in the next 12 minutes.

In all three games, the Devils have gotten at least 350 yards passing from quarterback Taylor Kelly, 100 yards receiving from juco transfer Jaelen Strong and 160 yards from scrimmage from tailbacks Marion Grice and D.J. Foster, both of whom can line up anywhere on the field. On the 74-yard touchdown pass that got the ball rolling downhill against USC, Foster burned the Trojans as a slot receiver, only one of many ways offensive coordinator Mike Norvell works to get all of his weapons involved in all phases. Preferably at maximum speed.

Other than, say, Oregon or Texas A&M, it's hard to imagine a worse match-up right now for Notre Dame's defense, which limps into the JerryDome having already been torched by two far less creative attacks from Michigan (41 points on 460 total yards) and Oklahoma (35 points on 450 yards), both of which were breaking in new quarterbacks. Athletically, Taylor Kelly is much closer to the Irish's beleaguered starter, Tommy Rees, than he is to Devin Gardner or Blake Bell, and on occasion he can be just as mistake-prone. (Kelly has thrown multiple interceptions in four of his 17 career starts, including the loss to Stanford.) Without better production from a surprisingly anemic pass rush, though, it will likely be up to Rees to keep pace in another game the Irish are not designed to play.
– – –
Arizona State 34, Notre Dame 24

 

[arrowryan]

Nick Martin will have to have himself a game, because that #90 for ASU is the real deal.

We need to run the ball and control the clock IMO. The less chances ASU's QB has, the better,

He faces better competition in practice