Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[Ndaccountant]

Accept for his three years at CMU (same conference as WMU) and his three years at Cincinnati where he led them to an undefeated season and NY6 bowl. BK was 34-6 with back to back conference titles at Cincy before coming to ND.

Again....he never lasted more than 3 years at a D1 school.

 

[dublinirish]

you guys think the blue rinse brigade at ND would let Fleck stick Oar decals on the gold helmets??

 

[spoonidentity]

Man reading articles from guys like this gets me grouchy. Still blaming ND on that girl taking herself out. They disregard her prior medical as well as the fact that the guy didnt RAPE her anyhow. She admitted to nothing more than touchy feelie. That isnt rape. Secondly, what person goes by herself to a football players dormroom where they are ALONE? Clearly she was there for more than discussion about Western Civ class. Did he maybe act aggressive towards her that may have been more than she wanted? Possibly. But it wasnt rape and it wasnt anything that doesnt happen most weekends on any college campus.

Of course those things are always left off on hate ND articles like this.

While I agree with you that shifting blame on ND as an institution for this is unfair, I vehemently disagree with your normalizing the situation with a "she was asking for it" viewpoint.

 

[irishfan]

Scott Frost is a good one that I didn't think of; the turnaround at UCF has been nice. Another year, and perhaps he's on BK-at-UC footing.

Taggart at USF has already proven whatever he needs to prove; another year, even with improvement in winning the AAC, won't really show anything that you can't already see about his upside.

Derek Mason benefited from a weak SEC East, IMO, but either way, I don't think his potential upside justifies waiting another year with a lame-duck coach, just to see if Vandy stays competitive.



Those guys are who they are, though. They aren't going to make "leaps" that change their upside over the next year. You know what you're getting with Rhule, Mullen, Narduzzi and Taggart. You're getting young coaches that have turned around dumpster fires, or veteran coaches that have proven they can win with the right pieces in place. Those facts don't change, regardless of what their teams do in '17. It's not like they are limited-experience commodities.

And I'm not trying to debate you; just stating that if the ND admin needs to see another year from any of these guys, they're making a mistake. They will either miss out on an opportunity, or else they will get their guy next year and would have waited an extra year for nothing.

I agree with some of the names. Rhule and Taggart can't do much (besides 12-0) at their level to stand out. However, I think someone like Mullen going 9-3 without Dak would be big. I think Narduzzi going 10-2 would be a similar eye-raising performance in the eyes of the ND brass.

I just think most realistic names are tough sells right now with $$ and some of these guys having a big year next year would eliminate that. Not that I necessarily agree with it. I'd take Fleck or Mullen right now happily, and would be fine with Rhule or Narduzzi. I can just see why people might be hesitant to buy out Kelly for someone like Fleck or Rhule who really need more experience or coaches like Narduzzi or Mullen who seem solid not great.

 

[gkIrish]

Ok I work with PJ Fleck's first cousin, he just told me that Oregon, ND and other schools reps have been talking to his agent right now while he focuses on his game this week. He said a few weeks ago they had a good talk about the hype and attention coming his way.. Calls ND his absolute dream job and knows if he wins here, his family would be set for a long time. Oregon is extremely attractive as well because of Nike. He claims that after the game Friday, that Saturday/Sunday he will be on a plane off to interview.. Didn't say where but said that is the plan right now, focus on game worry about next stop after Friday, let agent handle right now. Thats all i got.

Decision is already made. There is no job opening.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Decision is already made. There is no job opening.

 

[Southside Sully]

This is an amazing "message board-y" update.

take it for what it is, but right from the source.. I mentioned some other thread a while back i work with him. He also is saying Fleck doesn't want to have another NIU Orange bowl game on his hands with WMU.. He is hoping they get a fair bowl game that doesn't embarrass the MAC or his program like NIU was a few years back with Jordan Lynch's team.

 

[NDdomer2]

Decision is already made. There is no job opening.

also not a known fact, its from a dudes co worker who is (or isnt) fleck's cousin.

 

[Dizzyphil]

QueensNY, the destroyer of threads... memories.

He had some doooooosies....

Ha, Norm Chow.

Just imagine.....

Not landing Meyer might be the moment we look back on as the 'last chance' for ND football. Should have offered him double what Florida offered, rather than half.

hindsight is a motherfvcker ain't it....

Ouch......that sure brings up some painful memories, lol!!!

I thought because of what we (as fans) are going through now, bringing those memories back up might ease the pain a little.....

 

[wizards8507]

It's easy to pick something like that out. Grimes was 100% in the wrong yelling at the refs, and needed to be controlled.

That doesn't mean Brian Kelly had to go all rage monster. The only grownup in that GIF was Sheldon Day.

 

[Free Manera]

That doesn't mean Brian Kelly had to go all rage monster. The only grownup in that GIF was Sheldon Day.

Yeah it is a really cringey moment. It was such an overreaction. If Grimes had one-punched him I would have been like well yeah he grabbed him by the throat. (edit: my recollection is off he had him by the shirt, by the throat so that was a bit of hyperbole)

 

[Blaise]

This is an amazing "message board-y" update.

Absolutely.... First planes, now first cousins... This is complete message board madness... If this is what the internet has to offer, how did Newspapers fail

 

[gkIrish]

Absolutely.... First planes, now first cousins... This is complete message board madness... If this is what the internet has to offer, how did Newspapers fail

Would be a pretty elaborate lie for Southside to make up, especially because this is not the first time he mentioned he works with Fleck's cousin. The first time was in the context of Fleck's marital issues.

If I were you I would appreciate that there are members of this board that have some inside information and are willing to share it, complete with a description of the source.

 

[dwshade]

Absolutely.... First planes, now first cousins... This is complete message board madness... If this is what the internet has to offer, how did Newspapers fail

It's the same crap every year at this time. Planes, somebody knows somebody, a coach bought property in the area, someone "saw" a coach on campus or at the airport. It's all BS and the message board gossipers eat it up. There is no coaching search going on. Move on. Maybe it's time to just nuke this stupid thread.

 

[IrishLion]

It's the same crap every year at this time. Planes, somebody knows somebody, a coach bought property in the area, someone "saw" a coach on campus or at the airport. It's all BS and the message board gossipers eat it up. There is no coaching search going on. Move on. Maybe it's time to just nuke this stupid thread.

OR, maybe it's time to tell us what your source is that allows you to scoff at everything?

 

[dwshade]

Would be a pretty elaborate lie for Southside to make up, especially because this is not the first time he mentioned he works with Fleck's cousin. The first time was in the context of Fleck's marital issues.

If I were you I would appreciate that there are members of this board that have some inside information and are willing to share it, complete with a description of the source.

LOL!!

 

[greyhammer90]

I feel like this board would love Fleck's energy... until we got beat. His row the boat, jump around with the guys stuff seems like it would play really poorly on a mediocre football team. I can see the comments now...

As per usual, absolutely 0 leadership from the cheerleader.

Total lack of professionalism from Fleck. Hope he enjoys rowing his boat to the Belk bowl.

Swarbrick didn't hire a coach, he hired a pollyanna.

 

[dwshade]

OR, maybe it's time to tell us what your source is that allows you to scoff at everything?

Wanna bet who ends up being right on this?

 

[Blaise]

Would be a pretty elaborate lie for Southside to make up, especially because this is not the first time he mentioned he works with Fleck's cousin. The first time was in the context of Fleck's marital issues.

If I were you I would appreciate that there are members of this board that have some inside information and are willing to share it, complete with a description of the source.

so what happens in two weeks if Kelly is still the coach and Fleck went to Oregon... We can rip the university for not paying the big bucks that Nike did because Fleck's cousin said so

No offense to southside, but i'll listen to beat writers who gets PAID to break stories over someone who allegedly knows a cousin which apparently is ok to use as a source and doesn't get them a final warning

 

[dwshade]

I feel like this board would love Fleck's energy... until we got beat. His row the boat, jump around with the guys stuff seems like it would play really poorly on a mediocre football team. I can see the comments now...

Absolute truth

 

[Blaise]

As for Fleck, I heard WM owns the rights to rowing the boat.. Curious to see what mantra he comes up with for his new team

 

[ACamp1900]

I feel like this board would love Fleck's energy...because we'd never lose.

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[tko]

As for Fleck, I heard WM owns the rights to rowing the boat.. Curious to see what mantra he comes up with for his new team

Deal breaker

 

[PANDFAN]

so what happens in two weeks if Kelly is still the coach and Fleck went to Oregon... We can rip the university for not paying the big bucks that Nike did because Fleck's cousin said so

No offense to southside, but i'll listen to beat writers who gets PAID to break stories over someone who allegedly knows a cousin which apparently is ok to use as a source and doesn't get them a final warning

wtf? he said tifwiw...believe him or don't...simple

 

[NDRock]

It's the same crap every year at this time. Planes, somebody knows somebody, a coach bought property in the area, someone "saw" a coach on campus or at the airport. It's all BS and the message board gossipers eat it up. There is no coaching search going on. Move on. Maybe it's time to just nuke this stupid thread.

Honestly, why do you read it? Let us monkeys have some fun and throw feces around.

 

[IrishLion]

Wanna bet who ends up being right on this?

GK offered a bet, and you didn't take the bait. Probably because you have no source, or else don't trust it enough to say where it's coming from. But now you're offering a bet haha?

Just tell us where your info's coming from. We know, it's probably just posters from another board, but still, if you're going to make definitive statements, and scoff at everyone that likes to speculate during an interesting time, at least back it up with reason and source.

Otherwise, in your own words

Waste someone else's time.

 

[tko]

Honestly, why do you read it? Let us monkeys have some fun and throw feces around.

Fell out of my chair, LOL.

 

[PANDFAN]

As for Fleck, I heard WM owns the rights to rowing the boat.. Curious to see what mantra he comes up with for his new team

not sure if serious...but no

 

[Cali_domer]

Honestly, why do you read it? Let us monkeys have some fun and throw feces around.

I try to just ignore it, if they're so sure why waste time in this thread.

 

[PANDFAN]

Honestly, why do you read it? Let us monkeys have some fun and throw feces around.

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