Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

[zelezo vlk]

Texas can just look in the couch cushions and find a couple of million laying around. I doubt they're worried too much

 

[kmoose]

Oh really, which one of those teams was just instructed to vacate 20+ wins because of academic misconduct? Which one of those teams had 5 "student" athletes arrested for being in a car with weed and a handgun?

Which of those teams scored a higher APR for football than Notre Dame?

The NCAA penalties are actually proof that ND is doing it right! They discovered academic misconduct, conducted a real investigation which led to more discoveries, and then took appropriate academic action against those found to be guilty.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Yes. He's required under his contract to mitigate any damages. Basically, he has to be looking and interviewing for a job otherwise Texas doesn't have to pay him, per his contract.

- If he does land a job (say $1 mil/year), Texas pays him the difference between what he's owed under the contract and what his new job pays him. So $4 mil/year.

- If he lands a job that pays him more than $5 mil/year, Texas may not have to pay him anything. That's probably spelled out in the contract details.

- If he doesn't land a job, but puts in a good faith effort, Texas will pay him the full $5 mil/year.

- If he sits around like a bum, Texas won't have to pay him anything.

This is typically how contract law works. The party who didn't void the contract is usually responsible for mitigating or lessening the damages the breaching party has to pay. You're expected to always try to improve your situation if you get screwed.

Someone posted a tweet round these parts which said the terms of the settlement allow Strong to keep 50% of whatever salary he receives from future employment. So he has some external motivation to maximize his earning potential.

 

[NDgradstudent]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/firekelly?src=hash">#firekelly</a> written in snow by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> students. They want to make ND great again! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DrainDuLac?src=hash">#DrainDuLac</a> <a href="https://t.co/21cm7XNX75">pic.twitter.com/21cm7XNX75</a></p>— Notre Dame Trump (@realNotreTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realNotreTrump/status/807683675185889284">December 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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[IrishLax]

Confused why people are still acting like petulant little shit heads. Every decision maker understands how you feel at this point. All you're doing is being a crappy representative of the University. It's time to get on board and be supportive for 2017, and if stuff goes to hell again fire up the #FireBK machine.

We've got a massive recruiting weekend going on and fans who ostensibly care about the success of the program are writing snow messages and taking out newspaper ads. So dumb.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Confused why people are still acting like petulant little shit heads. Every decision maker understands how you feel at this point. All you're doing is being a crappy representative of the University. It's time to get on board and be supportive for 2017, and if stuff goes to hell again fire up the #FireBK machine.

We've got a massive recruiting weekend going on and fans who ostensibly care about the success of the program are writing snow messages and taking out newspaper ads. So dumb.

Decision-makers understand how many of us feel, but have also made it clear they don't particularly care. Swarbrick laughed it off, which is fine, but we're going to laugh right back at him by publicly mocking Kelly (and Swarbrick's willingness to protect Kelly). The overton window is moving quickly.

How is this hurting recruiting, again? How does this influence the way a recruit perceives the program? Fans aren't saying anything about the program that Meyer, Harbaugh, etc., aren't saying. Would recruits rather go to a school where fans accept mediocrity?

As for getting on board for next season, there is no reason to assume that the future will be different from the past. And the past is 8-5.

 

[IrishLax]

Decision-makers understand how many of us feel, but have also made it clear they don't particularly care. Swarbrick laughed it off, which is fine, but we're going to laugh right back at him by publicly mocking Kelly (and Swarbrick's willingness to protect Kelly). The overton window is moving quickly.

Yes, getting upset that Swarbrick won't publicly throw the coach he is stuck with under the bus and thinking the appropriate response is to throw a tantrum makes you a petulant child.

How is this hurting recruiting, again? How does this influence the way a recruit perceives the program? Fans aren't saying anything about the program that Meyer, Harbaugh, etc., aren't saying. Would recruits rather go to a school where fans accept mediocrity?

lol so your premise is that a recruit walking around campus and seeing "fire the coach" messages everywhere is going to have no effect?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Yes, getting upset that Swarbrick won't publicly throw the coach he is stuck with under the bus and thinking the appropriate response is to throw a tantrum makes you a petulant child.

"The coach he is stuck with" is a pretty misleading way of putting it, don't you think? He stuck himself (and everyone else) with this coach. I guess saying we need "accountability for failure" is trite at this point, but there is no other way to put it.

lol so your premise is that a recruit walking around campus and seeing "fire the coach" messages everywhere is going to have no effect?

Not sure how much of an effect it will have beyond the effect of things already known: the other teams that we compete with for recruits are much better coached than ND; ND just had one of its worst seasons in the history of the program; many (most?) fans want Kelly gone.

 

[Dizzyphil]

lol so your premise is that a recruit walking around campus and seeing "fire the coach" messages everywhere is going to have no effect?

I see your point - I really do. But, I would hope the thought of a University of Notre Dame education would have some of an influence as well.

But no argument from me that doing childish writings in the snow or any other means is just that - childish.

 

[Cackalacky]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/firekelly?src=hash">#firekelly</a> written in snow by <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> students. They want to make ND great again! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DrainDuLac?src=hash">#DrainDuLac</a> <a href="https://t.co/21cm7XNX75">pic.twitter.com/21cm7XNX75</a></p>— Notre Dame Trump (@realNotreTrump) <a href="https://twitter.com/realNotreTrump/status/807683675185889284">December 10, 2016</a></blockquote>
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This is the kind of weak minded behavior that only a person who has been a fan for less than two years would do. Say ...someone who doesnt know "jack" about ND until they entered gradschool.

 

[NDgradstudent]

This is the kind of weak minded behavior that only a person who has been a fan for less than two years would do. Say ...someone who doesnt know "jack" about ND until they entered gradschool.

Yes, current ND students don't really get ND like you do, right? You understand how well-coached our team is. Less well-coached than Duke, Navy, Stanford, NCSU, USC, OSU, UM, PSU, VT, etc., but well-coached enough.

 

[calvegas04]

Yes, current ND students don't really get ND like you do, right? You understand how well-coached our team is. Less well-coached than Duke, Navy, Stanford, NCSU, USC, OSU, UM, PSU, VT, etc., but well-coached enough.

lol

 

[Cackalacky]

Yes, current ND students don't really get ND like you do, right? You understand how well-coached our team is. Less well-coached than Duke, Navy, Stanford, NCSU, USC, OSU, UM, PSU, VT, etc., but well-coached enough.

Although it will matter little to you i have been a "fan" since 1981. I have seen some lows and highs Lol. Smh. I wanted Kelly gone after 2015. But you dont see me on here every post bitching and moaning about the inevitable for the last two years. Sack up bro... its gonna be a long graduate year for you.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Lol. Smh. I wanted Kelly gone after 2015. But you dont see me on here every post bitching and moaning about the inevitable for the last two years. Sack up bro... its gonna be a long graduate year for your.

What is inevitable? Kelly being fired? I think we have pretty clear evidence, after a season like, that nothing is inevitable vis-a-vis firing the coach.

If you're talking about the team's mediocrity being inevitable, you're right. That's why students and fans have been going to considerable length to make the point that a change is needed. It takes a full-scale campaign: not just letters and refused donations but signs, student chants (as at the BB game recently), ads, billboards, snow messages, etc.

And of course suggesting, as you did, that someone young is not allowed to have an opinion about ND football is frivolous.

 

[Cackalacky]

What is inevitable? Kelly being fired? I think we have pretty clear evidence, after a season like, that nothing is inevitable vis-a-vis firing the coach.

If you're talking about the team's mediocrity being inevitable, you're right. That's why students and fans have been going to considerable length to make the point that a change is needed. It takes a full-scale campaign: not just letters and refused donations but signs, student chants (as at the BB game recently), ads, billboards, snow messages, etc.

The inevitability that Kelly wont get fired. I did not say you could not have an opinion i am just saying that we know what your opinion already is and it sucks having to watch you menstrate on the board. Stop putting words in my mouth. Here guy you should look into this:

 

[Classic Irish]

What is inevitable? Kelly being fired? I think we have pretty clear evidence, after a season like, that nothing is inevitable vis-a-vis firing the coach.

If you're talking about the team's mediocrity being inevitable, you're right. That's why students and fans have been going to considerable length to make the point that a change is needed. It takes a full-scale campaign: not just letters and refused donations but signs, student chants (as at the BB game recently), ads, billboards, snow messages, etc.

And of course suggesting, as you did, that someone young is not allowed to have an opinion about ND football is frivolous.

Graduate student in which discipline?

 

[Luckylucci]

Like Lax has stated extremely well, this is pathetic behavior and doing more harm to the program, with the timing of it. Petulant children is a good choice of words.

 

[IrishLax]

"The coach he is stuck with" is a pretty misleading way of putting it, don't you think? He stuck himself (and everyone else) with this coach. I guess saying we need "accountability for failure" is trite at this point, but there is no other way to put it.

No, it isn't, if you actually have knowledge about how everything played out during and after the season with the decision makers who give marching orders to Swarbrick.

Not sure how much of an effect it will have beyond the effect of things already known: the other teams that we compete with for recruits are much better coached than ND; ND just had one of its worst seasons in the history of the program; many (most?) fans want Kelly gone.

If you don't think there is a difference between hearing neg recruiting from other schools... something that is dealt with every year in some form by every coach... and seeing what those schools are saying validated by dumbass snow messages and ads while on campus for a visit I don't know what to tell you.

When the primary sell to Greg Johnson is "don't go to ND... you don't know who your coach will be because BK is getting fired next year." And ND coaches say "nah, he has a 5 year deal and it's just one bad season and we'll bounce back. Look at what our AD said."... and then you get on campus and walking around to see snow for the first time see "FIRE KELLY" written by students and a newspaper ad in the local paper and so forth it validates the opposing coaches and makes it exceedingly hard to defeat the neg recruiting and uncertainty.

 

[BGIF]

Graduate student in which discipline?

Trolling

 

[Cackalacky]

Tolling

For Whom the Bell Trolls?

 

[NDgradstudent]

No, it isn't, if you actually have knowledge about how everything played out during and after the season with the decision makers who give marching orders to Swarbrick.

To be clear: you are claiming (1) Swarbrick was ordered to extend Kelly; and (2) Swarbrick wanted to fire Kelly after this season, but was ordered not to. Correct?

If you don't think there is a difference between hearing neg recruiting from other schools... something that is dealt with every year in some form by every coach... and seeing what those schools are saying validated by dumbass snow messages and ads while on campus for a visit I don't know what to tell you.

When the primary sell to Greg Johnson is "don't go to ND... you don't know who your coach will be because BK is getting fired next year." And ND coaches say "nah, he has a 5 year deal and it's just one bad season and we'll bounce back. Look at what our AD said."... and then you get on campus and walking around to see snow for the first time see "FIRE KELLY" written by students and a newspaper ad in the local paper and so forth it validates the opposing coaches and makes it exceedingly hard to defeat the neg recruiting and uncertainty.

Greg could also pick up the newspaper and see that Kelly is shopping around for other jobs, Swarbrick apparently wouldn't mind him leaving but didn't want to deal with the payout after firing him, etc. People on campus aren't just going to suspend disbelief and pretend everything is fine for purposes of landing some recruit.

 

[mgriff]

This place is going to be a shitshow for at least the next year.

 

[BGIF]

For Whom the Bell Trolls?

Hoisted on my own petard!




(I used to have a student trainer spell check my posts. But I had to sign a desist order.)

 

[anarin]

Damn dudes posts get old. We get it.. You want Kelly fired and a champion on a white horse to come in and take all of us on a championship ride together.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Damn dudes posts get old. We get it.. You want Kelly fired and a champion on a white horse to come in and take all of us on a championship ride together.

He'd have to be on a white horse to beat Duke!

 

[calvegas04]

He'd have to be on a white horse to beat Duke!

Why does it have to be white? You racist notre dame hater

 

[Cackalacky]

Why does it have to be white? You racist notre dame hater

He loves Englishmen. Is it any question why he hates our Irish coach?

 

[NDgradstudent]

Why does it have to be white? You racist notre dame hater

Any colored horse will do. I'm just sick of hearing that we can't beat top teams because we "don't have the horses."

 

[dad4aa]

Yes, current ND students don't really get ND like you do, right? You understand how well-coached our team is. Less well-coached than Duke, Navy, Stanford, NCSU, USC, OSU, UM, PSU, VT, etc., but well-coached enough.

You have got to be the dumbest fucker ever admitted to ND. Cannot wait until the mods see through your BS and you are banned. Mods please go through all of his posts and see ALL he does is slam ND. Several of us have gone through his posts over the past year and cannot find one post that would be positive. I've seen others banned for much less. There are plenty of posters that are not happy with BK and have called for his firing and that is fine...they at least do not come off anti-ND.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Any colored horse will do. I'm just sick of hearing that we can't beat top teams because we "don't have the horses."

You can still be a fan and be critical. But the fan part should come first. And middle school antics that could bring negative light to the school, program, players, and coaches isn't being a fan to me. It's like being a kid throwing a fit at WalMart because they didn't get the toy they wanted. Maybe it is time to take you to the bathroom and spank your behind.