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That's a great line.

"Khalid, what is best in life?"

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"To crush QBs, see their OL driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their fans."
 

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Saturday we will have what's best in life, we will crush the Hokies, see them driven from the field, and hear the lamentation of their fan-base.


"Khalid, what is best in life?"

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"To crush QBs, see their OL driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their fans."

VT brought all the Conan posers to the yard...
 

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Rewatching the Va Tech game to see the broadcast, and I don't know if anyone else noticed this but late in the 3rd Va Tech lined up for their questionable field goal and our block team was totally unprepared and we took a time out to sort out the personnel. Well the camera cut to BK yelling at Polian and I'm 90% sure the exchange was:

BK: "You just cost us a fucking timeout"
Polian: *looking totally confused* "They're 53 yards out?!"
 

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Rewatching the Va Tech game to see the broadcast, and I don't know if anyone else noticed this but late in the 3rd Va Tech lined up for their questionable field goal and our block team was totally unprepared and we took a time out to sort out the personnel. Well the camera cut to BK yelling at Polian and I'm 90% sure the exchange was:

BK: "You just cost us a fucking timeout"
Polian: *looking totally confused* "They're 53 yards out?!"

Maybe BK wanted the return team on the field if it was a 53 yard attempt?
 

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Maybe BK wanted the return team on the field if it was a 53 yard attempt?

It does say something about how weird that FG kick was that our special teams coach didn't even think of the possibility that he needed to get the FG block unit ready.
 

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Normally I would side with Polian there, but you definitely stand a better chance of blocking a long kick compared to a short one due to distance/trajectory. Lets not forget this was Blacksburg in prime time against a ranked opponent. When you're the Special Teams Coordinator it's your job to have your squads ready on 3rd down to hit the field. That said, Kelly is kind of an asshole 9 times out of 10.
 

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It does say something about how weird that FG kick was that our special teams coach didn't even think of the possibility that he needed to get the FG block unit ready.

I'd have probably left the normal D in to be honest. It's one of those spots where I'd rather defend the fake, than worry about the block. And especially we know VT can get cute on special teams.
 

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Kelly also gave Polian plenty of grief after the fumbled punt.
 

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Normally I would side with Polian there, but you definitely stand a better chance of blocking a long kick compared to a short one due to distance/trajectory. Lets not forget this was Blacksburg in prime time against a ranked opponent. When you're the Special Teams Coordinator it's your job to have your squads ready on 3rd down to hit the field. That said, Kelly is kind of an asshole 9 times out of 10.

I think it's a situation where you should have planned personnel for all situations. For instance, this is what we do if it a 50+ FG attempt and we're up, this is what we do in the same situation if we're down.

It seems to me, BK thought Polian, whatever the situation was, didn't have his guys ready for the assumed package. If that's the case, I'm with BK. I'm more than good with Polian as a recruiting coordinator, but he does nothing for me as special teams coach.
 

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Normally I would side with Polian there, but you definitely stand a better chance of blocking a long kick compared to a short one due to distance/trajectory. Lets not forget this was Blacksburg in prime time against a ranked opponent. When you're the Special Teams Coordinator it's your job to have your squads ready on 3rd down to hit the field. That said, Kelly is kind of an asshole 9 times out of 10.

I think his assumption was that there was no way they would kick because it didn't make any sense to do so. Just a funny moment. I don't blame either party. Made sense for Polian to think that. Also a totally normal reaction from a HC.
 

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Normally I would side with Polian there, but you definitely stand a better chance of blocking a long kick compared to a short one due to distance/trajectory. Lets not forget this was Blacksburg in prime time against a ranked opponent. When you're the Special Teams Coordinator it's your job to have your squads ready on 3rd down to hit the field. That said, Kelly is kind of an asshole 9 times out of 10.

ST has been the worst performing unit - Polian is rightfully catching some heat. However, Kelly might want to consider that he just is not that good at it and weigh that against the pluses as recruiting coordinator. Seems like weekly Polian is catching flack (earned flack). I don't see coach treating anyone else on the sideline anywhere close to as bad as Polian though.
 

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ST has been the worst performing unit - Polian is rightfully catching some heat. However, Kelly might want to consider that he just is not that good at it and weigh that against the pluses as recruiting coordinator. Seems like weekly Polian is catching flack (earned flack). I don't see coach treating anyone else on the sideline anywhere close to as bad as Polian though.

Well, Polian seems to typically be the closest one. The rest of the coaches are either in the booth or further down the sideline. Besides, why would he attack our QB Coach and savior, Reesus?
 

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Rewatching the Va Tech game to see the broadcast, and I don't know if anyone else noticed this but late in the 3rd Va Tech lined up for their questionable field goal and our block team was totally unprepared and we took a time out to sort out the personnel. Well the camera cut to BK yelling at Polian and I'm 90% sure the exchange was:

BK: "You just cost us a fucking timeout"
Polian: *looking totally confused* "They're 53 yards out?!"

I think his assumption was that there was no way they would kick because it didn't make any sense to do so. Just a funny moment. I don't blame either party. Made sense for Polian to think that. Also a totally normal reaction from a HC.

I thought it was "We had to call a fucking timeout," followed by a "why weren't we ready for that?" look at Polian.

But then right before it cuts away, it looks like BK says "that was my fault" so idk lol
 

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I have never been a fan of ST during the Kelly tenure. I've commented on that.

I'm all for hammering your coach if he screws up, but not really sure how much Polian screwed up on Doerer's kicks out of bounds and Shannon's bad snap. I am certain that wasn't part of the plan. Players just mess up sometimes.
 

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ST has been the worst performing unit - Polian is rightfully catching some heat. However, Kelly might want to consider that he just is not that good at it and weigh that against the pluses as recruiting coordinator. Seems like weekly Polian is catching flack (earned flack). I don't see coach treating anyone else on the sideline anywhere close to as bad as Polian though.

Pretty sure Polian is always close to BK on the sidelines by design. You never know when ST's will need to get on the field. Given his proximity Polian is always going to catch some heat immediately after a screw up. I agree ST's could improve, but Polian is a good recruiter.
 

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I have never been a fan of ST during the Kelly tenure. I've commented on that.

I'm all for hammering your coach if he screws up, but not really sure how much Polian screwed up on Doerer's kicks out of bounds and Shannon's bad snap. I am certain that wasn't part of the plan. Players just mess up sometimes.

I watched a documentary once on Andy Reid and his coaching tree in the NFL. They all mentioned one thing they learned is to never yell at a player, but the position coach. And then have the position coach handle the player. I think this is the proper way to coach/handle these situations rather than the head coach reaming players. So with that in mind, I hope that's the reason why he does it.
 

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Doerer has been pretty solid outside of the first couple games imo. Once we were linked with that PWO kicker he seems to have dialed it back in.
 

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Polian is basically Kelly’s little brother. They look alike. They dress alike. They fight. And sometimes they even love each other.
 
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Doerer has been pretty solid outside of the first couple games imo. Once we were linked with that PWO kicker he seems to have dialed it back in.

D1 kicker hand picked by a powerhouse should be booting it through the back of the endzone every. damn. time.
 
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