Trump Presidency

[arahop]

You need to go back and review Bishop’s defenses of the Confederate flag, apparently there is nothing racist or even seditious about it. It’s really just about a couple good ol boys, never meaning no harm.

But but but the south is trying to rise again through trumpism.
If only today's age had a General Sherman who would walk through trumpism.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You guys are totally full of shit and really toeing the line here. There have been riots throughout the history of the United States. They're wrong, destruction of property is wrong.

A riot like in LA or Seattle or whatever is not the same as traitors waving Confederate flags storming the US Capitol Building as part of an attempt to undo the results of an election. They literally displaced Congress and prevented them from certifying the results of our President. They closed down one of our branches of government and forced them into hiding. They planted a bomb at the RNC.

If you can't see why that is different from than ANTIFA causing property damage, or the LA race riots, or many other examples of activist property destruction then you're being willfully ignorant.

That you describe the trouble of the past year as merely property damage is exactly what those of us on the Right are complaining about. It was SOOOOOOOO much more than that. It was a direct assault on the institutions of society, civilization, and law & order. Burning police stations is a lot more than just property damage. It's a flaunting of the rule of law and a direct attack upon the primary agency that protects the average citizen. Sorry, but storming the Congressional building is bad and it's an assault on our government and society, but storming police stations and courthouses, violating citizens' civil rights and assaulting them for having a different opinion, looting hundreds of businesses, burning our cities, and doing everything you can to destroy our society and any semblance of peacefulness ABSOLUTELY IS just as bad and just as much a direct threat to our nation and our society. The only difference is that some of you are OK with half of the bad behavior and attacks on our society.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT!!!

Too funny

 

[Bishop2b5]

This is anarchy, not a protest. You have too much right in you.

Was Antifa & BLM burning police stations and assaulting people protest or anarchy?

 

[Redbar]

Lol. Yep. No harm no foul. They were just messin around.

On balance for me, the RIP thread isn’t worth his crap. Kick rocks bish!

 

[tadman95]

LOL Just saw a post on Facebook where a guy is claiming that he has good sources reporting that the protesters in the Capital are really Antifa/BLM masquerading as MAGA protesters to stir up trouble. And the police actually escorted busses of them into DC....

Don't know where he lives but I bet the water has a heavy lead content

" From a friend in DC-
Much of what you are seeing and hearing is propaganda and theater.
We do know that last night the police escorted into DC several buses of Antifa/BLM. We also have contacts into several security entities, and one within Antifa who have all said that Antifa is planning to wear Trump/MAGA gear to stir up problems.
"Trump MAGA" supporters who clashed with police at the Capitol are in fact Antifa and the media is feeding into it-America is being set up. "

 

[Bishop2b5]

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/art...rnia-Senate-Shannon-Grove-Antifa-15851304.php

"California state Senate Minority Leader Shannon Grove of Bakersfield on Wednesday retweeted a popular pro-Trump conspiracy theorist who claimed antifa — and not supporters of President Donald Trump — were the ones responsible for the storming of the U.S. Capitol building."

Gotta love Kern County.

Remember when some here claimed it was the Proud Boys and some right wing extremists who took over downtown Portland and were burning police stations? Now you know how silly that sounded to us.

 

[Sea Turtle]

That you describe the trouble of the past year as merely property damage is exactly what those of us on the Right are complaining about. It was SOOOOOOOO much more than that. It was a direct assault on the institutions of society, civilization, and law & order. Burning police stations is a lot more than just property damage. It's a flaunting of the rule of law and a direct attack upon the primary agency that protects the average citizen. Sorry, but storming the Congressional building is bad and it's an assault on our government and society, but storming police stations and courthouses, violating citizens' civil rights and assaulting them for having a different opinion, looting hundreds of businesses, burning our cities, and doing everything you can to destroy our society and any semblance of peacefulness ABSOLUTELY IS just as bad and just as much a direct threat to our nation and our society. The only difference is that some of you are OK with half of the bad behavior and attacks on our society.

Is taking over large swaths of US cities, holding the inhabitants hostage, declaring it an autonomous zone and defending it with assault rifles dressed in black bloc a threat to our institutions and society too?

 

[IrishLax]

That you describe the trouble of the past year as merely property damage is exactly what those of us on the Right are complaining about. It was SOOOOOOOO much more than that. It was a direct assault on the institutions of society, civilization, and law & order. Burning police stations is a lot more than just property damage. It's a flaunting of the rule of law and a direct attack upon the primary agency that protects the average citizen. Sorry, but storming the Congressional building is bad and it's an assault on our government and society, but storming police stations and courthouses, violating citizens' civil rights and assaulting them for having a different opinion, looting hundreds of businesses, burning our cities, and doing everything you can to destroy our society and any semblance of peacefulness ABSOLUTELY IS just as bad and just as much a direct threat to our nation and our society. The only difference is that some of you are OK with half of the bad behavior and attacks on our society.

What a shock that the guy from Alabama doesn’t care about people with Confederate flags attempting a coup.

 

[notredomer23]

Is taking over large swaths of US cities, holding the inhabitants hostage, declaring it an autonomous zone and defending it with assault rifles dressed in black bloc a threat to our institutions and society too?

It is. Is trying to disrupt the peaceful transition of power of the federal government of the United States a more significant threat to our society?

 

[Bishop2b5]

What a shock that the guy from Alabama doesn’t care about people with Confederate flags attempting a coup.

I don't live in Alabama nor do I have a Confederate flag. I've clearly stated I disagree with today's actions. None of that has anything to do with my post that you're wrong to describe BLM and Antifa attacking courthouses and police stations as mere property damage.

 

[BilboBaggins]

You guys are totally full of shit and really toeing the line here. There have been riots throughout the history of the United States. They're wrong, destruction of property is wrong.

A riot like in LA or Seattle or whatever is not the same as traitors waving Confederate flags storming the US Capitol Building as part of an attempt to undo the results of an election. They literally displaced Congress and prevented them from certifying the results of our President. They closed down one of our branches of government and forced them into hiding. They planted a bomb at the RNC.

If you can't see why that is different from than ANTIFA causing property damage, or the LA race riots, or many other examples of activist property destruction then you're being willfully ignorant.

Bishop's game is to calmly present whataboutisms, false equivalencies, and complain about the victimization of conservatives by media, elites, or other boogeyman. It looks like wisdom if someone is in the bubble with him.

 

[Bluto]

Remember when some here claimed it was the Proud Boys and some right wing extremists who took over downtown Portland and were burning police stations? Now you know how silly that sounded to us.

Except there were actual pictures of the Proud Boys and right wing extremists involved in what went on in Portland at various points in time.

That moronic statement by the ranking Republican in the State House is exhibit A as to why the GOP is a non-factor in California politics.

Anyhow, on the upside most of these dummies weren't wearing masks (of course) so a bunch of them are probably going to jail for a long time and are probably gonna be removed from the voter roles due to policies they supported. Ohio, West Virginia, North Carolina, hell maybe even South Carolina might all be in play during the next election cycle!

 

[BilboBaggins]

https://twitter.com/its_menieb/status/1346955222657101828?s=09

I agree with Donald Trump. Ten years in prison.

 

[arahop]

So you are okay with people who are mad and have a problem with government to take their anger and rage out against the people but when another group has a problem with government and takes it out on government you have a problem with it?

I dont like either but at least they know who their enemy is.

Yeah. I have a problem with what happened today and if you don't.
You're part of the problem, not the solution.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It is. Is trying to disrupt the peaceful transition of power of the federal government of the United States a more significant threat to our society?

They're both bad. They differ in their details of course, but both are direct attacks on and threats to a peaceful society that operated under the rule of law. Burning police stations, attacking the police, burning and looting whole sections of our cities, assaulting citizens who disagree with them (a direct attack on their civil rights), storming courthouses, destroying monuments, etc., etc. are just as much of a threat to our society. A major difference here though is that all of us on the Right condemn both, while most of those on the Left here are still trying to spin one as mere property damage, protests, peaceful riots, and can't admit that the actions by Leftists are just as damaging and wrong. The only real difference is which side is committing the bad acts.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Except there were actual pictures of the Proud Boys and right wing extremists involved in what went on in Portland at various points in time.

That moronic statement by the ranking Republican in the State House is exhibit A as to why the GOP is a non-factor in California politics.

Anyhow, on the upside most of these dummies weren't wearing masks (of course) so a bunch of them are probably going to jail for a long time and are probably gonna be removed from the voter roles due to policies they supported. Ohio, West Virginia, North Carolina, hell maybe even South Carolina might all be in play during the next election cycle!

I'm good with anyone involved in this sort of foolishness going to jail and losing their right to vote.

 

[Sea Turtle]

What a shock that the guy from Alabama doesn’t care about people with Confederate flags attempting a coup.

Delaying the process by a few hours by some idiots disrupting it is a coup?

 

[Huntr]

I respectfully disagree. They are different in details, but not in magnitude. Both are direct assaults on the operating of a peaceful society and its governance. Attacking the Congressional building is no more an assault on those things than attacking a courthouse or police station. Disrupting the peaceful transfer of power is no better or worse than disrupting the workings of our court system or law enforcement agencies to administer justice and protect the citizenry. Please don't try to justify one and condemn the other. That's a HUGE part of the problem here: too many are fine with leftist assaults on government and society, but clutch their pearls when it comes from the Right.

Miss me with that both sides bullshit. What happened today is unprecedented. The bonus army did not take over the Capitol building.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Bishop's game is to calmly present whataboutisms, false equivalencies, and complain about the victimization of conservatives by media, elites, or other boogeyman. It looks like wisdom if someone is in the bubble with him.

You're wrong, but good try.

 

[IrishLax]

Bishop's game is to calmly present whataboutisms, false equivalencies, and complain about the victimization of conservatives by media, elites, or other boogeyman. It looks like wisdom if someone is in the bubble with him.

Right, it’s a joke. Old guy gets big mad about Black Lives Matter and clutches his white pearls. But you have “revolutionaries” seizing the fucking US Capitol Building to try to overthrow an election and he’s like: “well what about.....”

Seriously, these traitors literally set up a gallows outside the Capitol Building and then seized it through force... and he’s twisting himself to find equivalencies. It’s laughable and not worth a legitimate response. He probably secretly supports the insurrection and wishes some Democrats got lynched.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Right, it’s a joke. Old guy gets big mad about Black Lives Matter and clutches his white pearls. But you have “revolutionaries” seizing the fucking US Capitol Building to try to overthrow an election and he’s like: “well what about.....”

Seriously, these traitors literally set up a gallows outside the Capitol Building and then seized it through force... and he’s twisting himself to find equivalencies. It’s laughable and not worth a legitimate response. He probably secretly supports the insurrection and wishes some Democrats got lynched.

Come on Lax. This reads like a mad kid wrote it. You described the looting, assaults, burning of police stations, attempted takeovers of federal buildings as "property damage" then got mad when I roasted you and went to the "from Alabama" and "supports the Confederate flag" thing. That's weak. You're a mod here and an adult. Be bigger and better than that sort of personal stuff.

 

[IrishLax]

Delaying the process by a few hours by some idiots disrupting it is a coup?

Do you understand what a coup is?

Do you understand that a mob of insurrectionists seized the Capitol Building — with the expressed intent to install someone as President — and that they had to be removed by law enforcement and the National Guard? If so, what would you call it if a foreign adversary seized and occupied the Capitol? Or a group like the KKK? Because these people were waving a lot of flags that weren’t of the United States of America...

 

[Sea Turtle]

Right, it’s a joke. Old guy gets big mad about Black Lives Matter and clutches his white pearls. But you have “revolutionaries” seizing the fucking US Capitol Building to try to overthrow an election and he’s like: “well what about.....”

Seriously, these traitors literally set up a gallows outside the Capitol Building and then seized it through force... and he’s twisting himself to find equivalencies. It’s laughable and not worth a legitimate response. He probably secretly supports the insurrection and wishes some Democrats got lynched.

I think Bishop actually has it right. It's all wrong and all terrible. Even if it's done by people who hate Trump.

 

[mango4]

Do you understand what a coup is?

Do you understand that a mob of insurrectionists seized the Capitol Building — with the expressed intent to install someone as President — and that they had to be removed by law enforcement and the National Guard? If so, what would you call it if a foreign adversary seized and occupied the Capitol? Or a group like the KKK? Because these people were waving a lot of flags that weren’t of the United States of America...

In fact, they took down the flags of the United States of America to put up Trump flags. It was a coup and it's a cult.

 

[IrishLax]

Come on Lax. This reads like a mad kid wrote it. You described the looting, assaults, burning of police stations, attempted takeovers of federal buildings as "property damage" then got mad when I roasted you and went to the "from Alabama" and "supports the Confederate flag" thing. That's weak. You're a mod here and an adult. Be bigger and better than that sort of personal stuff.

Nah, just calling a spade a spade. I’ve long respected your input but tonight is beyond the pale. Playing “both sides” on an unprecedented event is a joke. The correct response was “wow, this was horrible and Donald Trump should be ashamed for encouraging this riot and disruption.”

 

[TorontoGold]

I think Bishop actually has it right. It's all wrong and all terrible. Even if it's done by people who hate Trump.

This is some serious All Lives Matter bullshit.

 

[Huntr]

Break a window and steal an XBox

Overthrow the government.


Comme ci, comme ça.

 

[notredomer23]

Break a window and steal an XBox

Overthrow the government.


Comme ci, comme ça.

To be fair, the new Xbox is awesome

 

[Huntr]

To be fair, the new Xbox is awesome

RIGHT??