Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

[NDRock]

Well said, man. I understand why people can get frustrated with Coan, mostly because his lack of mobility is a detriment to this OL, but he has played pretty damn good football since his redemption late @ VT.
It goes without saying that the offenses ceiling would be highest with Buchner, but clearly BK and Rees prefer Coan's higher floor.

Would love to see more 50/50 split between Buchner and Coan but they're going to keep doing the 75/25 ish we've been seeing.

At the end of the day, I think one of the mods said it in another thread, maybe this one, but anyone who thinks this is a 8-1 football time without Coan is kidding themselves.

I'll say this. If my choices were:

1. Coan stays healthy and takes every snap but no Pyne or Buchner to come in.
2. No Coan but you get Buchner and Pyne to do with as you wish.

I think we'd be better off with choice #2. I've seen too many games where Pyne and Buchner had to come in and spark the offense.

 

[Valpodoc85]

Who is/was more mobile Coan or Rees?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Who is/was more mobile Coan or Rees?

Rees couldn't run but he could shift around in the pocket a little bit. Coan is almost comically unable to re-set himself once the ball comes down from his shoulder.

 

[NDRock]

Who is/was more mobile Coan or Rees?

I’d take Rees over the traffic Coan.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Rees could not get a 20 yard rushing TD, just saying

 

[Irish#1]

Rees could not get a 20 yard rushing TD, just saying

Rees couldn't get a 20 yard rushing TD if you spotted him 19 yards.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Rees couldn't get a 20 yard rushing TD if you spotted him 18 yards.

I beg to differ; FIFY: Go to 4:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZzYaf14ux0

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I'll say this. If my choices were:

1. Coan stays healthy and takes every snap but no Pyne or Buchner to come in.
2. No Coan but you get Buchner and Pyne to do with as you wish.

I think we'd be better off with choice #2. I've seen too many games where Pyne and Buchner had to come in and spark the offense.

Counterargument is look at his productivity since the fourth quarter against VT, most notably when we run up-tempo and with the slightly improved OL.

Look, I agree wholeheartedly in that I'd prefer to see Buchner start and play the whole game, but lets be honest, the dual QB system is working rather well, and it's not going away.

The Coan hate is a tad unreasonably though.

 

[BeatSC]

Counterargument is look at his productivity since the fourth quarter against VT, most notably when we run up-tempo and with the slightly improved OL.

Look, I agree wholeheartedly in that I'd prefer to see Buchner start and play the whole game, but lets be honest, the dual QB system is working rather well, and it's not going away.

The Coan hate is a tad unreasonably though.

I wouldn’t call it hate anymore than the way we bitched about Rees. Rees took very few sacks as he threw the ball away a lot. If he had Jacks arm he would still be in the NFL.

bottom line is we would take less sacks, run the ball more effectively and okay action would work better if Buchner was the starter. We easily win every game we played.

 

[Dale]

I wouldn’t call it hate anymore than the way we bitched about Rees. Rees took very few sacks as he threw the ball away a lot. If he had Jacks arm he would still be in the NFL.

bottom line is we would take less sacks, run the ball more effectively and okay action would work better if Buchner was the starter. We easily win every game we played.

Buchner was 6/14 with 2 INTs in the game he got the longest run. Could we have still won every game we have and beaten UC? Maybe. I don’t think so but maybe. Would we have won every game easily? Hell no. No shot.

 

[NDRock]

Buchner was 6/14 with 2 INTs in the game he got the longest run. Could we have still won every game we have and beaten UC? Maybe. I don’t think so but maybe. Would we have won every game easily? Hell no. No shot.

I agree. I do think the Pyne/Buchner combo could have been very good this year and probably had us around the same level of success. Plus, would have been a better long term solution. All conjecture of course.

 

[Irish#1]

I wouldn’t call it hate anymore than the way we bitched about Rees. Rees took very few sacks as he threw the ball away a lot. If he had Jacks arm he would still be in the NFL.

bottom line is we would take less sacks, run the ball more effectively and okay action would work better if Buchner was the starter. We easily win every game we played.

I think you're putting this in a nice compact compartment to justify TB being the starter. He has had his struggles (VT good example) and is still learning. The more he plays, the more tape teams have on him and can prep better. I think what the staff is doing is perfect for getting him ready for next year. I personally don't want to trade a shot to go 11-1 to get him more time and lose another game or two. That 11-1 in a rebuild year is a great selling tool for recruits.

 

[ulukinatme]

I beg to differ; FIFY: Go to 4:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZzYaf14ux0

That TD was the difference too. Tommy saved the perfect season again Great game to be at, but not as much fun as the 2014 gem.

I genuinely think Coan's long run against North Carolina had a lot to do with the fact North Carolina never expected him to take off like that, like "There ain't no way he's runnin' that in..." Reminds me of a Mitch Hedberg joke:

 

[Riddickulous]

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[NDdomer2]

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scrub

 

[IRISHMAN]

i've been very pleased with the job tommy reese has done at OC. have to admit i was worried when he took over for chip long but so far he's done well.

 

[ulukinatme]

I don't see him winning the award, but it's commendable what they've been able to achieve despite the struggling OL and having an immobile QB in the pocket. That's usually a bad combo, but they've found a way to mitigate those issues with the tempo.

 

[Dale]

Elliott at Clemson is regarded as one of the best OCs in the country and is currently interviewing for HC jobs. And did worse with similar circumstances he was given this year

 

[calvegas04]

HC in waiting

 

[Irish4life]

Tommy is a good OC, happy to have him. I hope Coach Kelly finally takes the brakes off him asap.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

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wut

 

[drayer54]

Think back to where the O was after the Toledo game and look where it is now. Rees is da man.

Hope he wins.

 

[IrishLax]

I don't think he's perfect, but then again I don't think any OCs are perfect. But I do think he gets an inordinate amount of heat considering how much he improved the offense after Long left and how he's holding things together with duct tape this year.

As a coach, his biggest area for improvement is going to be as a recruiter + QB coach. We cannot keep signing physically limited players at QB... we are in a situation where if Buchner doesn't pan out or gets hurt then we are totally cooked.

 

[zelezo vlk]

There's also some fair criticism that the TD% in the Red Zone needs to go up, that was something Chip Long did very well in '17 and '18. Can't recall how '19 looked numbers wise. I'm very excited to see how Rees calls the offense next year

 

[Luckylucci]

FWIW, this is the initial list and at the stage in the process there are 58 names on the list.

Rees has done a commendable job this season. And, recruiting seems to be firing on all cylinders.

 

[Irish du Nord]

There's also some fair criticism that the TD% in the Red Zone needs to go up, that was something Chip Long did very well in '17 and '18. Can't recall how '19 looked numbers wise. I'm very excited to see how Rees calls the offense next year

Both Book and Wimbush had great skill sets for the red zone. From the looks of it, Buchner has a bit of that as well. Jamie U and Mike Frank have been talking about this for a bit on the ISD Power hour. Hopefully, the Buchner-Mayer-Diggs-Austin-Colzie combo can feast in the red zone in ‘22.

 

[tussin]

I don't think he's perfect, but then again I don't think any OCs are perfect. But I do think he gets an inordinate amount of heat considering how much he improved the offense after Long left and how he's holding things together with duct tape this year.

As a coach, his biggest area for improvement is going to be as a recruiter + QB coach. We cannot keep signing physically limited players at QB... we are in a situation where if Buchner doesn't pan out or gets hurt then we are totally cooked.

What's the actual wrap on Angeli? Everyone is pissed that he's not Allar, but I look on the recruiting sites and he's a Composite Top250 player. Not too shabby.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

FWIW, this is the initial list and at the stage in the process there are 58 names on the list.

Rees has done a commendable job this season. And, recruiting seems to be firing on all cylinders.

There's still some room for improvement on the offense. Definitely credit him and the staff for improving, but a still a step or two behind defense. Land a Carnell/Dante (or another big QB) and that would get him closer.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Elliott at Clemson is regarded as one of the best OCs in the country and is currently interviewing for HC jobs. And did worse with similar circumstances he was given this year

Radakovich: "Here is our offensive line. I've asked that you simply make it better."
Elliott: "That's what we're trying to do, but honestly, it's impossible without new players."
Radakovich: "Tommy Rees was able to completely rebuild his offensive line mid-season with a 4th string LT and a statue at QB!"
Elliott: "Well, I'm sorry. I'm not Tommy Rees."

 

[Luckylucci]

Both Book and Wimbush had great skill sets for the red zone. From the looks of it, Buchner has a bit of that as well. Jamie U and Mike Frank have been talking about this for a bit on the ISD Power hour. Hopefully, the Buchner-Mayer-Diggs-Austin-Colzie combo can feast in the red zone in ‘22.

Red-Zone Woes Remain Burr in Saddle of Irish Offense (247sports.com)

RZ production was actually down a lot with the Rees/Book combo in '20 versus the Long/Book combo in '19.