Tommy Rees and Carlo Calabrese arrested

[Ndaccountant]

I am embarrased reading some of the posts in here.

I would fully support locking the thread since nothing good is coming from it.

 

[Patulski]

It is amazing how times have changed, and how Notre Dame and South Bend have cracked down on alcohol. I remember drunk football player's at Goose's Nest and The Library, safely getting drunk and walking back to campus hassle free. I remember going to dorm parties where the entire dorm was one big drunken party. Today, the students at ND can't even drink in a home without fear of the police raiding it.

I think Rees did a stupid thing. I presume it was a reaction to the fear of getting in trouble. In fleeing instead of taking his punishment, he made things worse. Still, I feel sorry for students at ND. It's a "no fun allowed" place. It wasn't always that way.

 

[Dizzyphil]

The ink is not even dry on the paper and there is so much speculation in this post it is not even funny. Please let the facts come out and leave this alone. Seems this forum tends to feed on more negative sh!t about our OWN players than our worst enemies. This kids future is at stake and some are talking about QB play.

A felony on this kids record is more damaging to his future than anything. I would expect the majority in here to pray for this kid and his family regardless of how, what, and when he did for ND football.

Come on guys, ND and its family deserve more than some of the negativity being posted here.

k, off my box.

GO IRISH, praying for Rees.

Diz

 

[FLDomer]

And you would say the same if this was Manti and EG or GAIII? Come on, you're better than that.

It would suck but I would! IMO what Floyd did last yr was a lot less and I thought he got off light...just IMO (Now crucifiy away fellow Irish fans )

 

[nlroma1o]

Save your breath. It was clear what your MO was.

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Can't handle someone calling you out?

 

[Wizzle32]

sorry guys my link didnt work. Im new to the forum and did something wrong :/

 

[BeauBenken]

Good grief...

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I've heard first hand accounts. They weren't even arresting anyone until Rees kicked one for no reason. Quit defending this idiot. If this was a USC player it'd be all "WHAT AN IDIOT! LOL WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEM!!!" But since it's Rees there has to be some misunderstanding. No, he just an idiot with poor decision making, something we saw all year. Sorry if I can't feel bad for the real mouth-breather who assaulted an officer last night when he was going to be the starter again. Good riddance, Tommy Turnover.

 

[Fbolt]

It is innocent until proven guilty. Correct?

 

[Zwidmanio]

Hey Piombino,

TOMMY ASSAULTED A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER!!! YOU CANT DO THAT.....

Tommy just put a BLACK EYE on Our Ladys Football program...

Players at Notre Dame DONT DO THAT!!!

Think about that before you call people f-tards and declaring them the black eyes of the fan base.

LETS GO IRISH!!!

GIVE GOLSON A CHANCE!!

Yes, you shouldn't do that. Yes, it's an embarrassment to Notre Dame, the football program and Rees, but is that reason to be happy? I don't think Piombino was trying to justify Rees' actions at all, at least that's not how I took it, and I certainly wouldn't try to gloss over what Rees did at all. However, those that are expressing happiness that this incident took place because it supposedly means Rees won't be the starter next year are misguided.

 

[woolybug25]

I am embarrased reading some of the posts in here.

I would fully support locking the thread since nothing good is coming from it.

Amen brother




Some of you are making me embarrassed to be a Notre Dame fan. Two of the young men on this football team are in trouble and one may have cost himself his career at Notre Dame and you are happy about it?

Go root for the scUM bears or tOSU, we don't need dogsh!t fans like you in our fanbase.

pathetic...

 

[irishfan]

Hope he doesn't get kicked out. I'm not going to lie, I don't want Tommy to start next year, but he seems like a good kid for the most part.

 

[nlroma1o]

Yes, you shouldn't do that. Yes, it's an embarrassment to Notre Dame, the football program and Rees, but is that reason to be happy? I don't think Piombino was trying to justify Rees' actions at all, at least that's not how I took it, and I certainly wouldn't try to gloss over what Rees did at all. However, those that are expressing happiness that this incident took place because it supposedly means Rees won't be the starter next year are misguided.

Never said i was happy.

I said good riddance. Give golson a chance.

Go IRISH!

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

It is innocent until proven guilty. Correct?

I'm not on the jury, and it's pretty obvious Tommy is guilty.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Thank you for pointing that out, because this is exactly the mindset I was referring to in one of my earlier posts on this thread. It's the "it's somebody else's fault that I'm in this situation, not mine" syndrome. I have no problem with kids having fun (i.e underage drinking etc), but it doesn't mean that if you get caught, you somehow don't deserve to be punished per the law. I went to college and had my fun, ran when the cops came to bust up a party, didn't get caught luckily, but somehow that would be the cops fault if they did catch me??? I don't think so. And now law enforcement needs to also selectively enforce the law to suit your personal interest as well??? It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY and there seems to be a lack of it at times today. Again, I am not saying you can't have fun (as I also admitted I have) as a college sutdent or otherwise, but don't go acting like it's someone else's fault if you are held accountable for the consequences of your actions.

I FULLY agree with you on personal responsibility, morality, doing the right thing, and being punished when you get caught. My point was that this happens everywhere (which in an of itself does not condone the action, nor does it excuse it), and pointed out that other institutions specifically tell their PD to take the kids home, not arrest them. ND is very different, and that is something that all student learn when they arrive.

 

[woolybug25]

Never said i was happy.

I said good riddance. Give golson a chance.

Go IRISH!

ahh... it's been a while since I neg repped someone...

 

[IrishLax]

Then do your job. Solve crimes, solve murders, investigate rape when it happens, but give me a break if you think college kids on college campuses don't drink. Let's go arrest them all and close down our educational institutions.

This.......

These cops respond to noise complaints like they're raiding a meth lab. Yet they do absolutely nothing to solve any of the REAL crimes that occur daily in South Bend... and there are many of them. That's what I personally cannot excuse. Either take all parts of your job seriously or not... instead, they focus solely on the aspects of their job that have a quick monetary payout (noise complaint tickets are expensive).

I won't fault them for "doing their job" but I've seen first hand their conduct. In the big raid a couple years ago where something like 50 kids were arrested... to say they harassed the students there would be an understatement. Literally kicking in the door, arresting kids who hadn't been drinking because it was easier just to book everyone, waking up sleeping students and shining a flashlight in their eyes, not letting kids go to the bathroom and taunting them to **** themselves... I'm sorry but people who defend SBPD seriously must not have interacted with them recently. For some reason they have a huge axe to grind against ND students and it's just not right. If they did their primary job with an competency (stopping crime) then there would be something to respect them for... but they don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if what actually happened was Tommy tried to run... Officer Jimbo got pissed off and tackled him.... and then maced him for "good measure"... and then booked him for all of these charges to justify the macing. And I wouldn't be surprised if Carlo started arguing with them about excessive force or something to that effect and Officer Bob didn't like his "attitude" so he booked him for disorderly conduct to show him who's boss. But I guess we'll have to wait for all of the "facts" to come out.

 

[ThePiombino]

Yes, you shouldn't do that. Yes, it's an embarrassment to Notre Dame, the football program and Rees, but is that reason to be happy? I don't think Piombino was trying to justify Rees' actions at all, at least that's not how I took it, and I certainly wouldn't try to gloss over what Rees did at all. However, those that are expressing happiness that this incident took place because it supposedly means Rees won't be the starter next year are misguided.

Thank you.

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[irishff1014]

Hear me out, but I am sick of NDPD. As a former student at ND, they seem to get their nuts off for arresting students doing anything other than walking and breathing.

Do not read this as condoning what Rees and Carlo did, I am not doing that. However, how many students finish exams and go and have a drink or attend a party? I did it when I was at ND, and see several of my students do it now at my university.

The difference is that here, when the cops show up and there is underage drinking going on, they tell you to call someone to come and get you. The kids know that and don't freak out and run away or attack a cop. I am not blaming this on the cops, but its college, I did it, you probably did it, and the kids next door are doing it.

Right or Wrong It is illegal to do it and you know that before you do it. This is the persons fault not the police officers fault.

 

[Jerry]

I've heard first hand accounts. They weren't even arresting anyone until Rees kicked one for no reason. Quit defending this idiot. If this was a USC player it'd be all "WHAT AN IDIOT! LOL WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THEM!!!" But since it's Rees there has to be some misunderstanding. No, he just an idiot with poor decision making, something we saw all year. Sorry if I can't feel bad for the real mouth-breather who assaulted an officer last night when he was going to be the starter again. Good riddance, Tommy Turnover.

Are your first hand accounts coming from the group of 5 or 6 people that led police on a chase? Because according to South Bend police Capt. Phil Trent:

As officers approached, five or six people hopped a fence and led police on a chase, Trent said. The officers caught up with the group and used their hands to corral them, but Rees "actively resisted," Trent said.

"It wasn't terribly violent, but it was enough to be considered resisting,"

 

[yankeehater]

Gotta love ESPN! With all the crazy sport's news yesterday, this is the first thing they mention on Sportscenter this morning.

 

[ChiRish]

How would people be acting if this was one of the "better" players on the team? If this were Manti, or Tuitt for that matter?

We don't know the full story, and even so, Tommy deserves the benefit of the doubt until we do. I don't think people acted with this much uproar when Mike Floyd got hit with multiple drinking arrests along the lines of DUI!

Using this as a proxy to remove him in your eyes from the QB spot is irresponsible. As someone already said, assault could mean anything. Keep in mind that he's underage. Who hasn't run from a party in their lifetime?

The justice system will take their course, as will the University disciplinary system and BK, but for some to use this as a way to take shots at Tommy, or have him kicked off the team is just wrong.

After all, isn't this guy a player for a team, program, and university that we all love? If you can't support this guy, who by all accounts is a good person, and use the FIRST time he screws up as an opportunity to bash him because you want someone else on the team at his position, then what are you doing even supporting the team? Come on.

 

[irishff1014]

Then do your job. Solve crimes, solve murders, investigate rape when it happens, but give me a break if you think college kids on college campuses don't drink. Let's go arrest them all and close down our educational institutions.

It is ovbvious you know nothing about law enforcement. The police officers take that first report. on the Serious crimes that you have mentioned the Detectives do the rest.

 

[Zwidmanio]

Since when can you get arrested for arguing with a cop?

If I recall correctly, the charge was disorderly conduct, which is pretty much a "when all else fails" type charge. Arguing with a cop could certainly fall under it.

 

[CarrollVermin]

This.......

These cops respond to noise complaints like they're raiding a meth lab. Yet they do absolutely nothing to solve any of the REAL crimes that occur daily in South Bend... and there are many of them. That's what I personally cannot excuse. Either take all parts of your job seriously or not... instead, they focus solely on the aspects of their job that have a quick monetary payout (noise complaint tickets are expensive).

I won't fault them for "doing their job" but I've seen first hand their conduct. In the big raid a couple years ago where something like 50 kids were arrested... to say they harassed the students there would be an understatement. Literally kicking in the door, arresting kids who hadn't been drinking because it was easier just to book everyone, waking up sleeping students and shining a flashlight in their eyes, not letting kids go to the bathroom and taunting them to **** themselves... I'm sorry but people who defend SBPD seriously must not have interacted with them recently. For some reason they have a huge axe to grind against ND students and it's just not right. If they did their primary job with an competency (stopping crime) then there would be something to respect them for... but they don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if what actually happened was Tommy tried to run... Officer Jimbo got pissed off and tackled him.... and then maced him for "good measure"... and then booked him for all of these charges to justify the macing. And I wouldn't be surprised if Carlo started arguing with them about excessive force or something to that effect and Officer Bob didn't like his "attitude" so he booked him for disorderly conduct to show him who's boss. But I guess we'll have to wait for all of the "facts" to come out.

Well said.

 

[CarrollVermin]

Right or Wrong It is illegal to do it and you know that before you do it. This is the persons fault not the police officers fault.

Right, because none of us have ever broken the law.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Think it's time to quit opening up IE first thing in the morning when I get to work. It really ruins my day........both guys will probably be dismissed (if all this turns out like reported), and then haters will still complain, "Well I guess only the stars can get arrested and stay on the team, blah, blah, blah." My face is getting red as I type.

*Make it a point to avoid the comments section on ESPN, etc. boys, it will give you heartburn.

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

Think it's time to quit opening up IE first thing in the morning when I get to work. It really ruins my day........both guys will probably be dismissed (if all this turns out like reported), and then haters will still complain, "Well I guess only the stars can get arrested and stay on the team, blah, blah, blah." My face is getting red as I type.

*Make it a point to avoid the comments section on ESPN, etc. boys, it will give you heartburn.

Carlo will be in trouble but I doubt he will be dismissed.

 

[NDdomer2]

when are kids going to learn? A COP CAN'T ENTER A HOUSE WITHOUT PERMISSION OR A WARRANT. IF HE DOES, ASK HIM TO LEAVE IMMEDIATELY. If you're drinking outside, go inside when the cop rolls up. If he knocks on the door and tells you to open it, ask if he has a warrant through the door. When he says no, tell him to go get one. If a cop comes into your house without permission, you have every right to tell him to leave before having to provide any identification. Here's a trick I used once when I saw an officer in my apartment during a party:
Me: Sir leave my apartment, I did not consent to a search.
Officer: I want to see identification.
Me: That's fine sir but I did not consent to search so please step outside and I'll get my ID.
*Officer steps outside*
*I close the door*
*Officer knocks on the door*
Officer: Come out and have a word with me bud.
Me: Do you have a warrant?
Officer: No...
Me: Go get one please.

Cops can enter a house if they are given "Probably Cause" and with "Exigent Circumstances", which can be easily "created" by officer. If they know partying is going on inside the house, i.e. watching some drunk kid stumble inside and shut the door, hear loud music, etc. Then they can "create" an exigent circumstance by claiming they heard a noise of items being thrown away (destruction of evidence) and can enter without a warrant as it is in the "safety" of the public to NOT wait for a warrant.

As for ol' Tommy Boy, smh. We all have made poor mistakes, or at least I know I have, but you have one of the greatest opportunities in front of you, let alone a free degree from one of the greatest University in the world. You should not be putting yourself into a situation where that can be taken away from you. By no means does that mean you have to be a tight wad who never leaves his dorm or can't have a drink. But maybe the party that is spewing to the street isn't the best place to get plastered.

For those who think this is good for the team as far as Golson getting the start: Wouldn't the pressure on him to know he has to beat out a guy who has started for a year and half help him stay focused? In the scenario that Tommy is suspended for a few games or is kicked off the team he no longers has that competition and could naturally "relax."

Hope Tommy and Carlo learn from this.

 

[ChiRish]

This.......

These cops respond to noise complaints like they're raiding a meth lab. Yet they do absolutely nothing to solve any of the REAL crimes that occur daily in South Bend... and there are many of them. That's what I personally cannot excuse. Either take all parts of your job seriously or not... instead, they focus solely on the aspects of their job that have a quick monetary payout (noise complaint tickets are expensive).

I won't fault them for "doing their job" but I've seen first hand their conduct. In the big raid a couple years ago where something like 50 kids were arrested... to say they harassed the students there would be an understatement. Literally kicking in the door, arresting kids who hadn't been drinking because it was easier just to book everyone, waking up sleeping students and shining a flashlight in their eyes, not letting kids go to the bathroom and taunting them to **** themselves... I'm sorry but people who defend SBPD seriously must not have interacted with them recently. For some reason they have a huge axe to grind against ND students and it's just not right. If they did their primary job with an competency (stopping crime) then there would be something to respect them for... but they don't.

I wouldn't be surprised if what actually happened was Tommy tried to run... Officer Jimbo got pissed off and tackled him.... and then maced him for "good measure"... and then booked him for all of these charges to justify the macing. And I wouldn't be surprised if Carlo started arguing with them about excessive force or something to that effect and Officer Bob didn't like his "attitude" so he booked him for disorderly conduct to show him who's boss. But I guess we'll have to wait for all of the "facts" to come out.

All of us remember seeing things exactly like this many times in our youth. GREAT point.