Spring Practice Thread 2018

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I think you're experiencing the bias as well. Never said he didn't have some good kicks and I'm not ignoring them like you think, yet you say I am. You think he was great last year. I disagree. To me he was very inconsistent last year. We're going to disagree and that's okay.

Wait, was his punting not good or inconsistent? I definitely agree with inconsistent - I think like 30% of his punts were inside the 20, but his long was only 59 yards and his net punting average was middle of the road.

Against UGA, he averaged 47.1 yards per punt - good! Against Miami? 39.2 - blah!
 

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Fight/flight is a technical pet peeve...? I was using BK's words not mine. And it does make perfect sense in this context. Not sure you understand it....

I appreciate the post but I don't believe you know what you're talking about. Further, it was merely a suggestion.

Look, I really don't care all that much aside from the points of your post where you turned this argument to saying things about me rather than the concepts being discussed. I just get tired of people pining for old school mentalities and football to rise from the grave. Those tactics were put to the side because they stopped working consistently. We don't need to knock every new thing the coaches try.

They play 12 games, and 6 of those are at ND stadium which isn't exactly a hostile environment. Plus, the whole damn point is to have this conditioning done before you play the games so those things you called lame are the only real options the coaches have to simulate before actual game action.

And my point generally is that drill sergeant tactics don't work as well on millenials and Gen Z. I've managed multi-generational teams for quite a while, and motivators have just changed. Chewing someone out in front of their peer group is more likely to draw a negative response, but not going to go back and forth on that since you "know".

And the fight or flight pet peeve really wasn't my point, but it's a consistently misapplied concept, even if BK is the one who misapplied it. It's an actual physiological response, not an abstract concept. Once you've reached the point of a fight or flight response, you stop accurately processing new information and lash out or flee, both without control. The point of mental preparation is actually to avoid reaching a true fight or flight response scenario. Like I said it's a technical pet peeve, but I understand why it's easy to throw around in these contexts.
 
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Wait, was his punting not good or inconsistent? I definitely agree with inconsistent - I think like 30% of his punts were inside the 20, but his long was only 59 yards and his net punting average was middle of the road.

Against UGA, he averaged 47.1 yards per punt - good! Against Miami? 39.2 - blah!

He had 31.1% of his punts inside the 20 and another 8.9% were Touchbacks. That's 40% of the punts where we was more likely pooching the ball to work on field position. I don't know if that's good or bad.

Against UGA - he had 9 punts average 47.1 yards. Against Miami - it was 3 punts.

Here's the data by month from CFBStats.com (sorry for the data)

Games / Punts / Yards / Punts per Game / Yards per Game

in Aug/Sept 5 25 1116 44.64 5.0 223.2

in October 3 18 792 44.00 6.0 264.0

in November 4 16 657 41.06 4.0 164.3

in Dec / Jan 1 4 184 46.00 4.0 184.0

It looks like he had a shitty November (well - so did the entire team).

It's hard to overcome someone perspective (whether good or bad). And without individual game situation analysis, this is still just data.
 

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OK, I think we have exhausted the punting discussion for a while. Who all agrees?

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Look, I really don't care all that much aside from the points of your post where you turned this argument to saying things about me rather than the concepts being discussed. I just get tired of people pining for old school mentalities and football to rise from the grave. Those tactics were put to the side because they stopped working consistently. We don't need to knock every new thing the coaches try.

They play 12 games, and 6 of those are at ND stadium which isn't exactly a hostile environment. Plus, the whole damn point is to have this conditioning done before you play the games so those things you called lame are the only real options the coaches have to simulate before actual game action.

And my point generally is that drill sergeant tactics don't work as well on millenials and Gen Z. I've managed multi-generational teams for quite a while, and motivators have just changed. Chewing someone out in front of their peer group is more likely to draw a negative response, but not going to go back and forth on that since you "know".

And the fight or flight pet peeve really wasn't my point, but it's a consistently misapplied concept, even if BK is the one who misapplied it. It's an actual physiological response, not an abstract concept. Once you've reached the point of a fight or flight response, you stop accurately processing new information and lash out or flee, both without control. The point of mental preparation is actually to avoid reaching a true fight or flight response scenario. Like I said it's a technical pet peeve, but I understand why it's easy to throw around in these contexts.

I'm not sure anything consistently works/Not all Drill techniques are chewing someone out in front of their peer group... Each person is motivated differently/And I'm not referring to reaching the Y-D breaking point.

We all have our points-we just disagree. Enjoy.
 

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OK, I think we have exhausted the punting discussion for a while. Who all agrees?

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Thanks, Conner!!!! It's greatly appreciated to have someone with some kind of voice of reason from time to time.......
 

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Full pads today and partial media viewing session.

Let the clips commence.

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BK Presser Notes:

Wimbush and Boykin putting some nice chemistry on display.

Light seemed to go on for Boykin after winning the LSU game... wants to be the Alpha.

Miles Boykin, Javon McKinley and Cole Kmet standing out as pass-catchers.

Okwara needs to add some weight before the season, but unique in that he still has plus strength at 230 lbs.

Crawford will have a chance to compete at field CB, but CB's are more left/right now instead of field/boundary.

Griffith working at nickel today.

Bilal is the Rover if the opposing offense is using multiple TE's. If the offense is spread, it's TBD.

Bo Bauer is the most physically/mentally ready to play of the three EE linebackers. Oghoufo and Lamb need to get stronger.

Daelin Hayes is playing the kind of football right now that they want from him in the Fall.
 
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Not too surprised on OO, dude had slight frame. Too bad Lamb didn't show up in beast mode.
 

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Not surprised on the freshman LB's. This was always going to be an 18 month process and they are about 1/10th of the way into that.
 

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BK Presser Notes:

Wimbush and Boykin putting some nice chemistry on display.

Light seemed to go on for Boykin after winning the LSU game... wants to be the Alpha.

Miles Boykin, Javon McKinley and Cole Kmet standing out as pass-catchers.
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Good, good, good. If Boykin and McKinley can step up, along with Claypool coming back healthy, our WR corps should shape up nicely.
 

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Good, good, good. If Boykin and McKinley can step up, along with Claypool coming back healthy, our WR corps should shape up nicely.

Right now, I'd put Michael Young in that group. He obviously lacks the size but it sounds like he has a different gear than those 3, which will provide a nice niche for him in the offense.
 

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Not too surprised on OO, dude had slight frame. Too bad Lamb didn't show up in beast mode.

he was injured for 90% of his senior year. He was always going to be a little behind developmentally. He'll be good one though, has all the tools
 

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Any updates on Alize?

Reporters need to be on Kelly about this, imo.

From the opening spring presser, it sounded like he’s basically just in “show me” mode now.

BK said he’s eligible and not on any restricted lists, but talked about it like it was an after-thought. He’s just got to perform, or else he’ll ride the bench. Simple stuff.
 

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From the opening spring presser, it sounded like he’s basically just in “show me” mode now.

BK said he’s eligible and not on any restricted lists, but talked about it like it was an after-thought. He’s just got to perform, or else he’ll ride the bench. Simple stuff.

had some drops in the first practice day too right? basically the reporting pool said he was as he always is
 
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