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Rudy89

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with this game you can throw everything out the window. I dunno if we can win this one I just dunno if we can. I hope we too but after 3 years of heartbreak I just dont believe we can I hope that can change this year.
 

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I see both sides - respecting the enemy, and his (thus far) ability to strike right through our defense, and also the other side of the coin, where our defense appears to be rounding into the form we thought it would be when we recruited these players.

This defense has become the identity of the team. It's led by Manti and KLM. There's no way they're going to come into this overlooking Denard and his ability, so we shouldn't either.

But at the same time, they're going to be confident. As they should be. Michigan's defense is the weakness of their team, while ours is the strength. So, to help figure this out, does our offense have the ability to beat their defense? That's what the game will hinge on, as long as we contain Denard like we did last year, minus the ridiculous pass coverage.

As so many others have said, we have strength in the numbers of our backfield. We control the line of scrimmage, we run the ball, we win.

And I'll agree with Buster - that video makes me sick.

Oh and NDNation blows. That is all.
 

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I see both sides - respecting the enemy, and his (thus far) ability to strike right through our defense, and also the other side of the coin, where our defense appears to be rounding into the form we thought it would be when we recruited these players.

This defense has become the identity of the team. It's led by Manti and KLM. There's no way they're going to come into this overlooking Denard and his ability, so we shouldn't either.

But at the same time, they're going to be confident. As they should be. Michigan's defense is the weakness of their team, while ours is the strength. So, to help figure this out, does our offense have the ability to beat their defense? That's what the game will hinge on, as long as we contain Denard like we did last year, minus the ridiculous pass coverage.

As so many others have said, we have strength in the numbers of our backfield. We control the line of scrimmage, we run the ball, we win.

And I'll agree with Buster - that video makes me sick.

Oh and NDNation blows. That is all.

It really is as simple as that. If I could look into a crystal ball and tell all of you that we rush for over 200 yards and scUM rushes for less than 200 yards, who here would doubt that we won? [/crickets]

That's all that needs to be said...


Excuse my ignorance, but what is F/+? It looks like they only have gotten 51% of their predictions correct? I don't get it...
 
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Lots of this won't be too bad either.....
 

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One of my friends just posted this on Facebook. I haven't checked for accuracy but the similarities gave me chills...

In 1987, The Irish beat Michigan State at home by scoring 31 points.

In 2011, the Irish beat Michigan State at home by scoring 31 points.

In 1987, The Irish finished the season with 8 wins.

In 2011, the Irish finished the season with 8 wins.

In 1987, The Irish lost their bowl game, game they lead early on.

In 2011, the Irish lost their bowl game, game they lead early on.

In 1987, the Irish lost their all-time leading receiver to graduation.

In 2011, the Irish lost their all-time leading receiver to graduation.

In 1988, the Irish beat Michigan State by a score of 20-3.

In 2012, the Irish beat Michigan State by a score of 20-3.

In 1988, the quarterback from ND was starting his 3rd career game against Michigan State.

In 2012, the quarterback from ND was starting his 3rd career game against Michigan State.

The starting quarterback from ND in 1988 was from South Carolina.

The starting quarterback from ND in 2012 is from South Carolina.

The coach of that 1988 team was in his third season as head coach.

The coach of the 2012 team is in his third season as head coach.

Both teams had at least one important player from the state of Hawaii ( Teo, Ho).

In 1988, after 3 games the Irish had scored 90 points.

In 2012 after 3 games the Irish have scored 90 points.

The 1988 team had given up 30 points in three games.

The 2012 team has given up 30.

Lou Holtz's record after 29 games, 19-10.

Brian Kelly's record after 29 games, 19-10.

The 1988 team beat one ranked team in the first three games --ranked 10th.

The 2012 team has beaten one ranked team in the first three games- ranked 10th

The 1988 team one the National Championship

The 2012 team......
 

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In 1988, the quarterback from ND was starting his 3rd career game against Michigan State.

In 2012, the quarterback from ND was starting his 3rd career game against Michigan State.

Tony Rice started 6 games in 1987 (4-2 W/L). He started due to injury to starting QB Terry Andrysiak.
 

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I feel like Biff Tannen getting the sports almanac in back to the future. Time to place Irish Championship bets!

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Then again, I think we should win first, one game at a time. The hardest part of the schedule is just starting. If we beat Michigan 19-17, then it's just weird.
 

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OMM great work as usual. The Topic of Michigan's right tackle Taylor Lewan or "King" Lewan. If he was king wouldn't he be playing left tackle? Usually the greats slide to left to protect the blind side. I agree King is far off and the way Alabama treated him i wouldn't even consider calling him Prince, more like Princess...

Princess Lewan meet the "Freak" Stephon Tuitt
 
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Careful. Purging dissenting opinions and controlling the message are NDNation traits, where I am not a member for that very reason.

But to the content of my post: Do you think we're going to have to score more points than we did against PU/MSU to win?

Did you see the player interview yesterday? KLM's specifically. Did you see what he said. Something to the effect that you know, we were getting pretty good, and that other teams are starting to have to plan to deal with us.

So it is like this. There is a line __________ . On one side is the group of people that think only Denard needs to be planned for. That group includes all WW homers, those so called Irish fans that are throwing a fit over the fact that Kelly is finally winning and finally the otherwise fearful. (Pussies included.)

The other side of the line contains those thinking, feeling, rational and otherwise loving fans that think game planning is a two way street. I think Michigan has more to plan for this year than Notre Dame does. What do you really think? Where do you stand? WHO IS WITH ME?

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A new year Fellas. This team is palying with great heart and emotion. Coach D is getting ht players he wants on the field keeping everyone fresh. Diaco Has done a good job game planning. I trust that he, his assistants, and the players have watched plenty of video and know that they have to discipline football and keep their eye on D-rob. Have faith in the coaching staff and players.
 

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Did you see the player interview yesterday? KLM's specifically. Did you see what he said. Something to the effect that you know, we were getting pretty good, and that other teams are starting to have to plan to deal with us.

So it is like this. There is a line __________ . On one side is the group of people that think only Denard needs to be planned for. That group includes all WW homers, those so called Irish fans that are throwing a fit over the fact that Kelly is finally winning and finally the otherwise fearful. (Pussies included.)

The other side of the line contains those thinking, feeling, rational and otherwise loving fans that think game planning is a two way street. I think Michigan has more to plan for this year than Notre Dame does. What do you really think? Where do you stand? WHO IS WITH ME?

I am. I am with everyone on this board who has sat by and watched our beloved Irish lose games we should, games we shouldn't, and everything else in between. I am with you. I am with this team. I believe in these guys, I believe in Coach Kelly. Why not us? Why not now?
 

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I am. I am with everyone on this board who has sat by and watched our beloved Irish lose games we should, games we shouldn't, and everything else in between. I am with you. I am with this team. I believe in these guys, I believe in Coach Kelly. Why not us? Why not now?

F'ing "A" Right! GO IRISH!!!!!!!!
 
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I think they do but I also take comfort in the fact that UMs d is not as good as PU/MSU, so I believe we put up much more than 20 also. Denard vs ND's D is the battle in this game IMO....that and no TOs by ND.

FLDomer, a chara,

Sorry but it is not the battle in this game. It is not even the most significant front. Our o-line against their d-line is, as OMM and Me2 have so eloquently pointed out. If we rip gaping holes in their defense and can do what we want on the ground, it becomes much harder for the Drob. More than the difference of whether Shembo can get by some tackle and rip Drob's head off.
 

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with this game you can throw everything out the window. I dunno if we can win this one I just dunno if we can. I hope we too but after 3 years of heartbreak I just dont believe we can I hope that can change this year.

Rudy, my man, I'm not trying to give you a hard time but do you live your life in nervous shakes? I think you might be the most shook fan I've seen on this site and let me also say, I understand.

But, let me help you. Instead of focusing on how many times Notre Dame Football has hurt you, focus on the progress that has been made the last three years. Look closer into this "program" and acknowledge the leaps and bounds it has made.

- Recruitment of pure athletes, capable of playing multiple positions.

- Recruitment of program changing talent at crucial poitions. (Tuitt, Nix, Day, Ishaq, Keivare, Shumate etc etc).

- The true development of said players and extraordinary improvements in the previously enrolled. (Shembo, KLM, Motta and yes, even Te'o)

- Small, vital changes. (Training table, discipline/rules, extraction of entitlement)

- PAUL LUONGO and for that matter, the rest of this incredible staff.

- The difference in Brian Kelly from day 1 to now. Listen to his speeches at MSU, he knows it's time to let the dogs off the chain. He never spoke to his team like he did that night, on the road, against a top 10 team. His plan is coming to a crescendo and everyone on that campus knows it.

Last year we were up 24-7 going into the 4th quarter. We gave the ball away 5 times in that game alone. Tell me Rudy, what has been the most significant improvement with the offense this year?

That's right, turnovers. UM needs turnovers to win this game.

Our defense has the necessary depth to go 4 quarters and has shown to be disciplined and unforgiving so far.

If the guys come out and play mistake free, run oriented football, Michigan does not have the horses to keep up. The nerves are normal, especially when you understand that anything could happen on Saturdays. But, look closer at the program, open up to the excitement surrounding them (it's justified) and drop the anxiety.. Bragging and talking smack is a lot more fun anyway.
 
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FLDomer, a chara,

Sorry but it is not the battle in this game. It is not even the most significant front. Our o-line against their d-line is, as OMM and Me2 have so eloquently pointed out. If we rip gaping holes in their defense and can do what we want on the ground, it becomes much harder for the Drob. More than the difference of whether Shembo can get by some tackle and rip Drob's head off.

I want to sit in ND stadium w Bogs in full throat. Beastly.
 
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I want to sit in ND stadium w Bogs in full throat. Beastly.

I believe I will be in Section 12 - where do you want to meet?




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Rudy, my man, I'm not trying to give you a hard time but do you live your life in nervous shakes? I think you might be the most shook fan I've seen on this site and let me also say, I understand.

But, let me help you. Instead of focusing on how many times Notre Dame Football has hurt you, focus on the progress that has been made the last three years. Look closer into this "program" and acknowledge the leaps and bounds it has made.

- Recruitment of pure athletes, capable of playing multiple positions.

- Recruitment of program changing talent at crucial poitions. (Tuitt, Nix, Day, Ishaq, Keivare, Shumate etc etc).

- The true development of said players and extraordinary improvements in the previously enrolled. (Shembo, KLM, Motta and yes, even Te'o)

- Small, vital changes. (Training table, discipline/rules, extraction of entitlement)

- PAUL LUONGO and for that matter, the rest of this incredible staff.

- The difference in Brian Kelly from day 1 to now. Listen to his speeches at MSU, he knows it's time to let the dogs off the chain. He never spoke to his team like he did that night, on the road, against a top 10 team. His plan is coming to a crescendo and everyone on that campus knows it.

Last year we were up 24-7 going into the 4th quarter. We gave the ball away 5 times in that game alone. Tell me Rudy, what has been the most significant improvement with the offense this year?

That's right, turnovers. UM needs turnovers to win this game.

Our defense has the necessary depth to go 4 quarters and has shown to be disciplined and unforgiving so far.

If the guys come out and play mistake free, run oriented football, Michigan does not have the horses to keep up. The nerves are normal, especially when you understand that anything could happen on Saturdays. But, look closer at the program, open up to the excitement surrounding them (it's justified) and drop the anxiety.. Bragging and talking smack is a lot more fun anyway.


Awesome post
 
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