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Alabama in a blowout was so predictable

Yeah it was.

A Florida win tonight would create absolute chaos in the SEC. All we would likely need then (besides winning out) is for LSU to beat Bama and Georgia or someone else to beat Florida. Ole Miss beating Bama at home would also be nice. I can see all that happening.
 

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The SEC is guaranteed a playoff spot regardless of conference champion record, and the cannibals will take care of the rest. They get one team, the champ.
 

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The SEC is guaranteed a playoff spot regardless of conference champion record, and the cannibals will take care of the rest. They get one team, the champ.

I don't agree with that. If they all have 2 losses or more there are many scenarios where an SEC does not get in.

It's looking very likely that either TCU or Baylor goes undefeated. That's 1.

If Utah or Stanford go 12-1, that's 2.

A 13-0 or 12-1 Big Ten Champ will be 3. Seems likely

A 13-0 or 12-1 ACC champ will be 4. Seems likely

Then you have Notre Dame, an undefeated American Conference, and maybe even an 11-1 Clemson that doesn't win the ACC with a good argument.
 

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I don't agree with that. If they all have 2 losses or more there are many scenarios where an SEC does not get in.



It's looking very likely that either TCU or Baylor goes undefeated. That's 1.



If Utah or Stanford go 12-1, that's 2.



A 13-0 or 12-1 Big Ten Champ will be 3. Seems likely



A 13-0 or 12-1 ACC champ will be 4. Seems likely



Then you have Notre Dame, an undefeated American Conference, and maybe even an 11-1 Clemson that doesn't win the ACC with a good argument.


You don't have to agree with it, but you know in your heart of hearts the SEC has a spot in the playoff no matter what. A two loss SEC champ trumps any other 1 loss champ in the committee's eyes, the only exception is MAYBE Ohio State. I'd be willing to wager a hefty sum a two loss SEC champ Bama would dance into the playoff over a one loss B1G champ MSU.

*im basing this solely on what we see in the polls every week, nothing more
 
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You don't have to agree with it, but you know in your heart of hearts the SEC has a spot in the playoff no matter what. A two loss SEC champ trumps any other 1 loss champ in the committee's eyes.

I'm saying I don't think that's true at all. Alabama getting beat by Ohio St. last year changed a lot of things. Memphis beating Ole Miss really hurts the conference. South Carolina BLOWS this year, that hurts. Putting a team with 2 losses into a 4 team playoff when their BEST win will be over a 2-3 loss team at best would be a tough sell. Of course if any other Power 5 conference champ has 2 losses the SEC will get in.
 

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I'm saying I don't think that's true at all. Alabama getting beat by Ohio St. last year changed a lot of things. Memphis beating Ole Miss really hurts the conference. South Carolina BLOWS this year, that hurts. Putting a team with 2 losses into a 4 team playoff when their BEST win will be over a 2-3 loss team at best would be a tough sell. Of course if any other Power 5 conference champ has 2 losses the SEC will get in.


I hope you're right, but don't think the general public is over the "SEC is on a different level" bandwagon we've seen the last decade.
 

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I don't agree with that. If they all have 2 losses or more there are many scenarios where an SEC does not get in.

It's looking very likely that either TCU or Baylor goes undefeated. That's 1.

If Utah or Stanford go 12-1, that's 2.

A 13-0 or 12-1 Big Ten Champ will be 3. Seems likely

A 13-0 or 12-1 ACC champ will be 4. Seems likely

Then you have Notre Dame, an undefeated American Conference, and maybe even an 11-1 Clemson that doesn't win the ACC with a good argument.

Stanford at 12-1 would have beaten ND. So ND would not be in the convo if they do not beat Stanford.
 

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I hope you're right, but don't think the general public is over the "SEC is on a different level" bandwagon we've seen the last decade.

The general public will never be over that. What matters is if the committee is over it, and I think that they might be, after this season. Yet another affect of the superconference is that you can claim to have a better conference than you do.
 

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You don't have to agree with it, but you know in your heart of hearts the SEC has a spot in the playoff no matter what. A two loss SEC champ trumps any other 1 loss champ in the committee's eyes, the only exception is MAYBE Ohio State. I'd be willing to wager a hefty sum a two loss SEC champ Bama would dance into the playoff over a one loss B1G champ MSU.

*im basing this solely on what we see in the polls every week, nothing more

I don't agree with you on this either. Even Bama as a 2-loss SEC champ is unlikely to get in over an undefeated or 1-loss Power 5 champ. It would have to be a badly playing or weak schedule team for a 2-loss SEC champ to jump them and get in the playoff.
 

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Stanford at 12-1 would have beaten ND. So ND would not be in the convo if they do not beat Stanford.

Right. I'm saying there are about 6-7 realistic scenarios where a 2 loss SEC team gets shut out.
 

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I don't agree with you on this either. Even Bama as a 2-loss SEC champ is unlikely to get in over an undefeated or 1-loss Power 5 champ. It would have to be a badly playing or weak schedule team for a 2-loss SEC champ to jump them and get in the playoff.


Undefeated, no. One loss, absolutely. I really think a two loss Bama would make it over a one loss Baylor, TCU, or ACC champ.
 

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The general public will never be over that. What matters is if the committee is over it, and I think that they might be, after this season. Yet another affect of the superconference is that you can claim to have a better conference than you do.


You'd think that, but I'm curious to see how Ole Miss makes the top 4 again.
 

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Side note: if Chavis is such a defensive guru, how is he not able to prepare better for an offense that has Jake Coker as QB, and notoriously likes to smash it up the middle? How can you fail so miserably at limiting (not stopping of course) the vaunted Bama rushing attack?
 

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You'd think that, but I'm curious to see how Ole Miss makes the top 4 again.

I am more curious to see if Freeze and Fuente are both on the same sideline next year, with all the other job openings available. Particularly the USC job. I think both of them will be considered, for that or the SCAR job, among others.

Ole Miss should never see the Top 10 again, at least not for another generation.
 

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Right. I'm saying there are about 6-7 realistic scenarios where a 2 loss SEC team gets shut out.

What I meant is that would make ND a 2-loss team, so they would not be in the CFP conversation. So, unless STAN wins the PAC12 with 2 losses, ND is not even considered for one of the playoff spots.
 

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Bama's talent is unreal just unreal. 5 stars back up 5 stars and the 3rd stringers are 5 stars

Really jelly of A&M offense skill players and Daylon Mack and Myles Garrett good lordy
 

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TaM has been in the same overrated pos pile that the miss schools have been steaming in... This is the same exact program that was average in the big 12, they're no better now, sorry, they're not...
 

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SEC coaching contracts, recruiting

SEC coaching contracts, recruiting

With successes on the football field -some more than others - come high expectations. SEC coaches generally protect themselves with buyouts.

The SEC team recruiting rankings and presumed competitive advantage are headlined yearly. Six teams in the top ten in '15, seven in '14, 5 in '13 and 3 in '12.

SEC teams with top ten rankings in those four years:
Alabama (4), Auburn (4), Georgia (3), Florida (3), LSU (3), Tennessee (2), A&M (2).

Tennessee's and A&M's top tens occurred in the last two years after head coaching changes. Florida was not in the top ten only last year after their coaching change.

Buyouts will be costly to their universities:
Bielema $15.4 million before 2018 and then $7.9 million before 2020
Sumlin - all $30 million of six year contract signed in 12/2013
Malzahn - $8.95 million if fired this year, decreasing annually by $2.4 million
Jones -$4 million
Miles - $15 million, decreasing every two years

Saban and Richt have no buyouts. Spurrier walked away from $15 million left on his contract.

All have recently signed extensions reflecting these buyout figures.

Muschamps was bought out for $6.3 million. Auburn bought Tuberville's and Chizek's contracts for about $12 million total. If Malzahn is fired this year, they will have paid out $21 million to buy out three coaches. If someone wants Sumlin, it will cost $5 million to buy him out of his A&M contract.
 
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Good breakdown of the Alabama-LSU game - offenses vs defenses

Hope For the Best: LSU edition

One knows exactly what to expect when the Tide and Tigers face off. Both teams will smash their opponents in their respective faces with a five-pound sledge running game. Both teams will dig in on defense and become walls of stone against which the opposing offense shatters like untempered glass upon striking. Both teams are somewhat loathe to air it out, but when the time comes, when that perfect moment of opportunity dawns, they will take advantage of their opponent with play-action sand-throw in the face followed by a dagger in the lungs.
 

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Leonard Fournette family members attempted to run site focused on the LSU Tigers running back

"Family manager"

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Your Weekly Hoodoo Thread

When you have ten minutes for a pure Southern tale in which the words pounce out like a hungry cat seeing his first mouse in days told with only the combination of humor and insight that you find in a retired journalist who spends most of the week in a Trappist monastery unleashed for his weekly sermon to the unwashed ... then read on.

Well faithful fans and friends of our beloved Alabama Crimson Tide Collegiate American Rules Tackle Football Squad, we have come to the moment of truth, the hour of reckoning, a D-Day of sorts for the men in crimson as they ponder their participation in the 2015 College Football Playoffs. Damn...that was one long sentence.

But alas, despite the verbosity with which I opine on the eve of this, most critical of gridiron battles for the boys in crimson and white, we have reached the point of the season in which our Hoodoo meets head-on with that Bayou-bred, Chachere-flavored warlockian cousin of a Dark Art, the ole-fashioned Louisiana Voodoo. For though our Hoodoo be stout and strong, the displaced Acadians of the Loozanna swamps wield their own powerful wizardry. Unlike the plain ole run-of-the-mill divil worshippin' cultism practiced by those animal husbanders on the so-called Plains of Alabammmy, these swamp dwellers possess a supernatural predisposition that has, in too many past episodes of this king-makin' series, dealt our beloved Crimson Tide a mortal blow.
In other words, these gator-huntin', nutria-eatin' purveyors of swamp-possum can not only match Bama facemask-to-facemask on the field, but they are our equal in terms of the Voodoo that they do. Well, I'll be damned.
 
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This may be more about preseason rankings and/or ESPN....

ESPN's college football writers comprised their preseason rankings of the SEC teams, which was:
1. Auburn
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. Ole Miss
5. Arkansas
6. Tennessee
7. LSU
8. Mississippi State
9. Missouri
10. Texas A&M
11. South Carolina
12. Florida
13. Kentucky
14. Vandy

ESPN's preseason national power ranking had SEC teams with five out of the top ten and ten of the twenty-five teams.

In the preseason AP poll, eight SEC teams were ranked in the top 25 preseason, which grew to ten by Week 2.

That's down to four in the AP Top 25 now (with ESPN's preseason conference rankings from above in parentheses) -- Alabama(3), LSU(7), Florida(12) and Mississippi State (8)

Only one (Alabama picked at #3 ) of top six SEC teams chosen by the ESPN writers' group remains in the latest AP Top 25 poll.
 
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was between ole miss and bama
 
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