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BobD

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I hope you guys are talking about hair on your head.
 

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But seriously....it is what it is....nothing us fans can do too make anything change/happen
 

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Gotta imagine we'll hear something this week, maybe get these guys some practices and a live game before Stanford next week...right?
 

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Gotta imagine we'll hear something this week, maybe get these guys some practices and a live game before Stanford next week...right?

Pull the covers up and go back to sleep. You've got plenty of time to get caught up on your sleep.
 

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Gotta imagine we'll hear something this week, maybe get these guys some practices and a live game before Stanford next week...right?

Why, because of the "Done" tweet?

If Daniels wants action he can march into the office of the Dean of the College of Arts and Letters (his college) and DEMAND a Hearing. He can walk into the Povost's Office and do the same. "Clear me or prosecute me but stop persecuting me."

Of course that might have consequences he might not desire. Easier to curry favor with quips to the social networking crowd who have no role in resolving his situation than bringing it to a head.

Any student, athlete or not, has the same course of action open to them. I keep looking for an open letter to The Observer from one of the students demanding such action but they remain mute.
 

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Gotta imagine we'll hear something this week, maybe get these guys some practices and a live game before Stanford next week...right?

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I'm going to go ahead and believe that if we don't hear anything this week, the investigation turned up very bad things that will be released at a later time. If they do finish the hearings, maybe some players are released for time already served...wishful thinking I guess. Still ridiculous this process has gone on this long....so it's a bit worrying that some real bad news could be forthcoming.
 

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I'm going to go ahead and believe that if we don't hear anything this week, the investigation turned up very bad things that will be released at a later time. If they do finish the hearings, maybe some players are released for time already served...wishful thinking I guess. Still ridiculous this process has gone on this long....so it's a bit worrying that some real bad news could be forthcoming.

There is no time served consideration from the Honesty Committee.

If you committed an infraction you get a zero on the assignment or an F in the course depending on the magnitude of the offense. A more flagrant offense OR offenses can get you tossed for a semester or permanently.

It's an academic committee deciding on an academic issue with an academic outcome.

So how many games one has missed isn't part of that process or penalty.


Their decision may impact an individual eligibility as a consequence BUT that's for an entire semester not for some number of games. You are either academically eligible or you are not.
 

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There is no time served consideration from the Honesty Committee.

If you committed an infraction you get a zero on the assignment or an F in the course depending on the magnitude of the offense. A more flagrant offense OR offenses can get you tossed for a semester or permanently.

It's an academic committee deciding on an academic issue with an academic outcome.

So how many games one has missed isn't part of that process or penalty.


Their decision may impact an individual eligibility as a consequence BUT that's for an entire semester not for some number of games. You are either academically eligible or you are not.

But if its separate, you could get time-served from the football side...

Is it a fact that an F is the minimum punishment?
 
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But if its separate, you could get time-served from the football side...

Is it a fact that an F is the minimum punishment?

Not counting they're found not guilty, so no punishment, yes, a 'F' on only the assignment is minimum punishment.
 

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But if its separate, you could get time-served from the football side...

Is it a fact that an F is the minimum punishment?

If they are found guilty of cheating, receive failing grades for those papers in question, and are still academically eligible? I agree; they're not going to then get suspended by the football team, as a punishment.

But I don't think it will matter, because I doubt that they will be students in good standing, if those are the findings.
 

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But if its separate, you could get time-served from the football side...

Is it a fact that an F is the minimum punishment?

No, a minor infraction such as an assignment gets a a zero for that piece of work.

A major infraction gets an F in the Course.


Time served is NOT relevant to the decision making process of the Honesty Committee. They don't issue game suspensions. And you don't get partial semester eligibility.



ND's Department of Community Affairs, formerly Res Life issued Rees a game suspension for student misconduct. Kelly can issue a game or games suspension such as Holtz sending players home before a USC game for being late to meetings.

The NCAA can issue a game or games plural suspension for improper agent contact, improper benefits, etc but those such suspensions are not related to academic eligibility. If the NCAA gave student X a 4 game suspension for any reason and the school had already held that student out 3 games, Time Served could apply there.
 
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