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Several players that he brought into during the winter transfer window have now transferred out.

Tayvion Beasley (JSU), Taylor Upshaw (Michigan), & Yousef Mugharbil (Florida) all just left.

So either some players that he brought in aren’t good enough, they saw the writing on the wall, or they aren’t digging what they see in Boulder.
 

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Several players that he brought into during the winter transfer window have now transferred out.

Tayvion Beasley (JSU), Taylor Upshaw (Michigan), & Yousef Mugharbil (Florida) all just left.

So either some players that he brought in aren’t good enough, they saw the writing on the wall, or they aren’t digging what they see in Boulder.
I think Prime made a lot of promises that they aren't making
 

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We'll see if there is any football substance to this man other than having been a freak talent for a specific position. To date, I haven't seen anything other than that on-field (almost isolated from the rest of the football team) playing career. I'll include the following general statement just to rile up the percentage of IE readers who cannot read comprehensively enough to catch what I am and am not saying --- and giving some opportunity to exercise themselves in righteous indignation in the off season ....

Sanders is a big extrovertive personality, who has an ability to insert himself into entertainment situations which a segment of American culture seems to like watching. There are a group of personalities who focus on labeling themselves "great"; labeling select others "great" or even "The Greatest of All Time" (I'm NOT taking a swipe at Ali here; this commentary has nothing to do with him other than that he established the phrase in modern culturespeak.) This sloppy use of "Great" by this segment of culture is so out of tone with any serious meaning of the word great, that the word has become degraded to near meaninglessness, though continuing to be a go-to adjective by commentators, especially in sports. Sanders epitomizes this concept degradation, but the shallow culture segment (mainly but by far not only a huge chunk of silly sports fans) loves the absurd fantasy of any of this being "greatness" and loves the (to me cringing) braggadocio spewed out by the "luminaries." (I've begun muting certain people when they show on TV. Humility is becoming a lost character quality.)

Media salivators and advertisers continue the consciousness focus on the Sanders of the world, and basically force him and other bragging egotists and self-sellers down the rest of our throats, maintaining these persons' marketability. I will guess that the average 18 year old might not have the savvy to see through that.

Having said that: Deion Sanders himself MIGHT be the best possible guy and the best possible coach --- I just haven't seen anything (either way) to make any judgement on him specifically. He MIGHT be all Show with little substance. It COULD be true that when a portalling player lands, and gets real information, he sees that too much of what he heard was simply BS, and transfers again. At a program as big as Colorado, Sanders better get one helluva coaching staff to do the actual real work. Splash and Braggadoccio should manifest themselves as just what they are pretty quickly in that stage. ... if one was a really good athlete, and it wasn't just some money take, why would any of them really want to sign up for this untried coach? Shallow attracts Shallow?

... anyway, if Deion Sanders is (despite his self-sell personality) really a great guy, I wish him well. SO HARD to imagine him as a head coach quality football mind, though.
 

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Several players that he brought into during the winter transfer window have now transferred out.

Tayvion Beasley (JSU), Taylor Upshaw (Michigan), & Yousef Mugharbil (Florida) all just left.

So either some players that he brought in aren’t good enough, they saw the writing on the wall, or they aren’t digging what they see in Boulder.
Are these grad transfers? (Quick look it appears Upshaw may be but the other two probably not) Or is the one-time waiver another rule that doesn't apply in Boulder?

I dunno, but I think there's a strong possibility of an A&M scenario here with large numbers of guys coming for a year (or less, apparently) and then bailing, and it's hard to win at college football that way.
 

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I think Prime made a lot of promises that they aren't making
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Are these grad transfers? (Quick look it appears Upshaw may be but the other two probably not) Or is the one-time waiver another rule that doesn't apply in Boulder?

I dunno, but I think there's a strong possibility of an A&M scenario here with large numbers of guys coming for a year (or less, apparently) and then bailing, and it's hard to win at college football that way.
Or Deon is using the portal as an opportunity to do “tryouts “ to see if guys are any good and dumping them if they are not.
Reason #268 that the current system is not working and need correction
 

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247Sports: What do you say to people like Pat Narduzzi who have been critical of your roster overhaul?

Sanders: "What was his situation when he came to Pitt? He had a different situation than me. He is not mad at me, he is mad at the situation in football now that allowed his best player to leave a year ago. He’s not mad at me, he’s using me to shoot bullets at another coach who he has an issue with. I don’t know who he is; if he walked in here right now I wouldn’t know him."

Please inject this into my veins.
 

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Please inject this into my veins.

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Isn't Colorado and Denver one of the fastest growing states and cities. Seems they are playing the long game.
 

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Because the biggest schools left for expansion that are available are in the Pac-12 and the others don't want to leave their conference right now.
But Utah, Oregon, Washington, ASU are all bigger targets
 

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Oregon and UW have their eyes on the Big10


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Not sure why B12 would want CU
CU was already a member of the Big 12.

Everyone is moving to sustain their own existence. It's self preservation in the name of the almighty dollar.

Not sure why two Los Angeles schools are going to be in the Big Ten, but it's happening. Flow with the Go.
 

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Pac 12 is no where close to a TV deal. The uncertainty has several of their schools nervous.
 

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Pac 12 is no where close to a TV deal. The uncertainty has several of their schools nervous.
Rightfully so.

The Big 12 solidifies itself with more membership, CU goes back to the conference and has a place secured. Makes complete sense.
 

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CU was already a member of the Big 12.

Everyone is moving to sustain their own existence. It's self preservation in the name of the almighty dollar.

Not sure why two Los Angeles schools are going to be in the Big Ten, but it's happening. Flow with the Go.
Can't really compare the brand of CU to usc and UCLA... other than CU just being a warm body it doesn't make sense for the B12
 

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Can't really compare the brand of CU to usc and UCLA... other than CU just being a warm body it doesn't make sense for the B12
It has nothing to do with brand. Logistically, it's completely off the wall to have two California schools in the Big Ten. That's the direction the wind is blowing, however.

Colorado was literally already a member of the Big 12 before and now they're going back during a time when realignment is still a process that is in motion, and the potential result coming next being that the PAC 12 gets picked apart entirely. I fail to understand how it doesn't make sense. The Big 12 takes a step closer to preserving itself and Colorado moves back into a home they've already occupied.

Easy.
 

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It has nothing to do with brand. Logistically, it's completely off the wall to have two California schools in the Big Ten. That's the direction the wind is blowing, however.

Colorado was literally already a member of the Big 12 before and now they're going back during a time when realignment is still a process that is in motion, and the potential result coming next being that the PAC 12 gets picked apart entirely. I fail to understand how it doesn't make sense. The Big 12 takes a step closer to preserving itself and Colorado moves back into a home they've already occupied.

Easy.
It doesn't make sense because CU is a big nothing burger. The whole point of these realignment is for TV ratings. Why wouldn't the B12 go after better schools like Utah or ASU? Does it really matter that they used to be in the B12 years ago? The B12 is looking more and more like a G5 conference
 

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It doesn't make sense because CU is a big nothing burger. The whole point of these realignment is for TV ratings. Why wouldn't the B12 go after better schools like Utah or ASU? Does it really matter that they used to be in the B12 years ago? The B12 is looking more and more like a G5 conference
The Big 12 is going after Utah, Arizona and ASU. Arizona has been very engaged with them. Colorado is one domino, and they have over 2 million more people living in their state than Utah does. Denver has about 700k people there alone, add in the outlying suburbs. Colorado State is the only competition. The Phoenix market has two P5 schools in Arizona and ASU. Utah has the Utes, BYU and Utah State to a lesser degree.

You can look like a G5 conference or you can not exist. Colorado offers them a P5 football program, even if in name only, along with the other varsity sports necessary for both men and women. For the sake of logistics and negotiation, yes, their previous membership does matter. It's not like we're talking about UConn.
 
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Yep, I posted something I read about CU going to the Big 12 a while back and one reason was the prevailing thought is the Pac12 is going to struggle to exist. Oregon and UW want to join the B1G, but the B1G isn't as infatuated with them as they are with the B1G.
 
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