Post-Game Thoughts: Georgia

[Old Man Mike]

To LAX: I was talking about Phil Steele, not Los Vegas et al. Phil Steele clearly rated Georgia the better team.

 

[texbender]

Hard fought game that game down to the end,
1. ND D played well
2. ND OL outplayed by UGA front 7
3. UGA team speed a difference maker
4. ND receivers have to make catches
5. UGA D had right plan for Wimbush
6. Doug Flutie is irritating...turning off audio from now on
7. Yoon back on track

 

[IrishLax]

To LAX: I was talking about Phil Steele, not Los Vegas et al. Phil Steele clearly rated Georgia the better team.

Got it, missed that you were talking strictly about the Phil Steele mag. Sorry!

 

[texbender]

Any word on game impacting recruiting?

 

[Fbolt]

My frustration centered around the BS analysis on Wimbush. It seems to me every time I turned around the media was hyping Wimbush in Spring ball and Fall practice-Thought someone stated right before the season he's the early dark horse Heisman candidate? Obviously not. He's clearly a first year starter.

I kept waiting for him to turn it up or the coaches to at least give him the opportunity. He didn't and they didn't. Shows the faith they have with him.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Give credit where it's due: the D played very well. Tillery and Tranquil, for example, looked like different players (in a good way). Keep in mind this was the most talented backfield in the nation.

The problem was the O. Wimbush wasn't spectacular, although he was serviceable. The play calling also wasn't great. And in a 1 point game every drop and bad play call kills you.

I'm still waiting on the "Kelly Offense" that we saw at Cincinnati.

 

[pkt77242]

Give credit where it's due: the D played very well. Tillery and Tranquil, for example, looked like different players (in a good way). Keep in mind this was the most talented backfield in the nation.

The problem was the O. Wimbush wasn't spectacular, although he was serviceable. The play calling also wasn't great. And in a 1 point game every drop and bad play call kills you.

I'm still waiting on the "Kelly Offense" that we saw at Cincinnati.

I would add that Coney and Watkins looked very good, and Coleman played much better this game.

 

[irishandy]

Postgame Thoughts:
1. $hame on Notre Dame fans for selling their tickets, whoever you are, you are a sellout and not a fan.
2. Brandon Wimbush played horrible. These are games where you are given an opportunity to become thee guy. He failed on every aspect to become that guy.
-- He tried doing too much like he did last week.
-- His passes were horrible.
-- Trust the playmakers around you.
3. No EQ, no problem?? BIG problem ND needs to establish a #2 WR. Our opponents are going to watch this game and key in on EQ. Who is going to step up?
4. Rushing yards GA-- 185, ND-- 55, no run over 10 yards??
5. Yoon was our best offensive player.
6. I am not happy with the roles of Dexter Williams and CJ Sanders. That is a waste of talent that needs to see more touches. After the team ran out of the tunnel yesterday Dexter Williams was so excited, poised, and looked ready.
7. Fromm ended up looking like a freshman, I was hoping that he wouldn't look like an upperclassmen.
8. I hate losing, but we only lost by a point, if we would've won it would've been by not much. I don't view this as a bad loss or a lost season.
9. We could be much worse, such as in an area that is impacted by the hurricanes. We all love thee Notre Dame, but the sun is going to rise for most of us tomorrow, would you rather lose a game or be devastated by the storms?

Let's keep it classy ND fans.

Go Irish!!

 

[GATTACA!]

Hard fought game that game down to the end,
1. ND D played well
2. ND OL outplayed by UGA front 7
3. UGA team speed a difference maker
4. ND receivers have to make catches
5. UGA D had right plan for Wimbush
6. Doug Flutie is irritating...turning off audio from now on
7. Yoon back on track

.........bruh

 

[Irish Houstonian]

pkt -- totally. These were not the usual give-two-yards-of-separation-at-all-times DBs we're used to seeing. Even on the completions they were right there. Coverage was good.

The D and being +2 in turnovers all around means this was a very winnable game.

 

[tko]

I'm not able to read through all the responses, but anyone have any commentary regarding why Dexter Williams isn't involved at all and also why CJ Sanders isn't used as a WR?

Playcalling was beyond frustrating. I get UGA's defense is one of the best, but call some plays to help a brother out. I think back to how Kelly called the OU game in Norman for Golson and wish we could've seen some of that(some whispers in Chip's ear, suggestions). Chris Finke has to sit in the open area instead of drift over towards the defenders at the end. So many little things like that throughout the game, and Wimbush trying to get outside instead of plowing forward for 2+ and a first down. Ugh, on to Fredo.

 

[Free Manera]

I'm not able to read through all the responses, but anyone have any commentary regarding why Dexter Williams isn't involved at all and also why CJ Sanders isn't used as a WR?

Playcalling was beyond frustrating. I get UGA's defense is one of the best, but call some plays to help a brother out. I think back to how Kelly called the OU game in Norman for Golson and wish we could've seen some of that(some whispers in Chip's ear, suggestions). Chris Finke has to sit in the open area instead of drift over towards the defenders at the end. So many little things like that throughout the game, and Wimbush trying to get outside instead of plowing forward for 2+ and a first down. Ugh, on to Fredo.

Kelly was asked during press conference. Answer was "Coach's decision." That's it. Today during the teleconference he insinuated they wanted Adams in for pass blocking.

 

[tko]

Kelly was asked during press conference. Answer was "Coach's decision." That's it. Today during the teleconference he insinuated they wanted Adams in for pass blocking.

Thank you man.

 

[wizards8507]

Kelly was asked during press conference. Answer was "Coach's decision." That's it. Today during the teleconference he insinuated they wanted Adams in for pass blocking.

Which is extra delicious because Adams was pretty terrible in pass protection.

 

[calvegas04]

Which is extra delicious because Adams was pretty terrible in pass protection.

so was the OL

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Wow! Haven't seen this much analysis in years.
Most disappointing was how poorly Wimbush played. Concerned about the QB position more now than ever. Was the play calling a Schmitt show? Hell yes! Was it good enough to win? Yes. Execution at QB at even an average level was way off. It's as if Wimbush pulled a Costanza and made the wrong read option decision every time. He has no feel for touch passes. This is his third year there and he has all that "Grit" too bad it equaled Schmitt.
Josh Adams will not get drafted, McG will go second round based on footage from this game. He should have come out. Very few plays made on offense. More boners than plays. I kept saying from second Qtr on where is Dexter? It's as if Kelly refuses to give in to pressure and digs his heels in. Coverage on punts and kickoffs is slow as schist. Copmapre it to Georgia. Some greedy F's selling there tickets. They should look into anyone doing this Schmitt and pull their privelages.
Kudos to some nice plays by Coleman. I know Daelin Hayes is getting better but he rally wiffed on that TFL. Didn't see as much rotation this week. I think opposing teams think ND can bring pressure and counter with all these quick strikes. I was honestly not concerned at the prospect of Book taking over as he seems to make quick smart decsisions and delivers the ball quickly.

Note: ESB won't be leaving early and neither will Wimbush or anyone else.

Book makes quick decisions?

Based on what game experience? Lol. His 5'11 ass would have been whalloped last night all the same.

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[drayer54]

Only thing we'll remember about this game in 5 years was the sea of red.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Which is extra delicious because Adams was pretty terrible in pass protection.

But I do see the argument that he would want Adams in there on pass plays. Hasn't it been said that Dexter has stone hands? More aggressive first down plays like passes to Adams were a rare highlight last night. Adams even finished with the most receiving yards on the team.

 

[STLDomer]

Is the worry that UGA would know we were running the ball!? Because they loaded the box anyways

Is the worry Wimbush wouldn't get protection? Because he didn't anyways.

At some point during that game you gotta think Williams being in even on passing plays couldn't hurt much more than Adams. And his running COULD have been a lot better.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

9 wins? Don't see it at all. There are going to be a bunch of tough, close games and this team has shown no ability to win those. Will be very surprised if we finish better than 7-5.

Lmfao.

"the team has shown no ability to win close ones"

We've only played 2 games. One, we destroyed a decent opponent. The other, we lost to one of the best defenses in the whole country by 1 point.

What have you seen that shows, we can't win 9 games?

USC and Stanford are the only two teams that are (on paper) better than us. (both of which have lesser defenses).

You're using heartbreak to throw the season away. That's what quitters do. Winners bounce back and learn from their downfalls.

You don't know Long. You don't know Elko. You have no sample size to justify your irrational judgment.

Let the games be played. Let them show us what they can do.

I see no reason why we can't get 9 wins. I'm not guaranteeing it. But I equally so no justification for 7 or less wins.

Go back under your rock, please.

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[wizards8507]

Lmfao.

"the team has shown no ability to win close ones"

We've only played 2 games. One, we destroyed a decent opponent. The other, we lost to one of the best defenses in the whole country by 1 point.

What have you seen that shows, we can't win 9 games?

USC and Stanford are the only two teams that are (on paper) better than us. (both of which have lesser defenses).

You're using heartbreak to throw the season away. That's what quitters do. Winners bounce back and learn from their downfalls.

You don't know Long. You don't know Elko. You have no sample size to justify your irrational judgment.

Let the games be played. Let them show us what they can do.

I see no reason why we can't get 9 wins. I'm not guaranteeing it. But I equally so no justification for 7 or less wins.

Go back under your rock, please.

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Where have you been for the last decade of Notre Dame football? The sample size isn't two games, it's eight years.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Where have you been for the last decade of Notre Dame football? The sample size isn't two games, it's eight years.

This team has been playing together for eight years?

Oh, this is a Kelly dig. Let's look at the numbers:

2010: 2-3
2011: 3-2
2012: 5-0
2013: 3-2
2014: 2-3
2015: 4-2
2016: 1-7
2017: 0-1

Seems like 2016 is the anomaly of Kelly teams losing more than their fair share of close games.

 

[Buster Bluth]

And they can still win 9 games this season.

at Boston College
at Michigan State
vs Miami (Oh)
at North Carolina
BYE
vs USC
vs North Carolina State
vs Wake Forest
at Miami
vs Navy
at Stanford

They can win 7-8 of those games. Few of those teams have the talent Georgia has. I think we'll all be frustrated with another 8-5/9-4 Kelly season that could have won double digits with a break or two. As is tradition.

 

[NDRock]

Lmfao.

"the team has shown no ability to win close ones"

We've only played 2 games. One, we destroyed a decent opponent. The other, we lost to one of the best defenses in the whole country by 1 point.

What have you seen that shows, we can't win 9 games?

USC and Stanford are the only two teams that are (on paper) better than us. (both of which have lesser defenses).

You're using heartbreak to throw the season away. That's what quitters do. Winners bounce back and learn from their downfalls.

You don't know Long. You don't know Elko. You have no sample size to justify your irrational judgment.

Let the games be played. Let them show us what they can do.

I see no reason why we can't get 9 wins. I'm not guaranteeing it. But I equally so no justification for 7 or less wins.

Go back under your rock, please.

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Wow, didn't realize that. My bad. I was thinking we were talking talking about the team that has lost 11 of their last 16 games, beating only two Power 5 teams. A team that is 1-8 in games decided by one possession or fewer. A team with top 10 talent based on recruiting rankings. I'm not a quitter! I will bounce back!

 

[pumpdog20]

No more scheduling "once in a lifetime" home games for large fan bases.

 

[ACamp1900]

No more scheduling "once in a lifetime" home games for large fan bases.

Fordham, Eastern Michigan, Idaho, Eastern Podunk Northwestern Taxidermy.... Winnable schedules, ND is doing it wrong.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Why are people assuming that this team will follow similar trajectories of that of years past?

Who are you to predict the future? What sample size of this team do you have? What sample of Elko? Long? Etc.

Have you factored in strength and conditioning? How does this relate with respect to your expectations? Have you estimated what difference this may or may not have with years past?

Have you considered what difference an Elko led defense may have against opponents like SC and Stanford?

You simply cannot predict this. Period. You cannot generalize. You do not know how the season will play out with the sheer number of variables that are involved with such a complex and dynamic system.

We lost to a better team, by 1 point.
We demolished a solid opponent the weak before.

If you can predict a 7-5 season with that, then you, unequivocally, are better than man.


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[wizards8507]

Fordham, Eastern Michigan, Idaho, Eastern Podunk Northwestern Taxidermy.... Winnable schedules, ND is doing it wrong.

Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Boston College, Army, Navy, Air Force, USC, Stanford, BYU, Northwestern, Pitt

Repeat annually.

Notre Dame should be good enough where the service academies are routinely beatable with minimal effort.

 

[BobbyMac]

I picked this team to go 9-3 with loses to SC, Stanford and either UGA or Miami. Can the team lose to all those and MSU? Sure. Could they go 10-2. Sure.

To act like THIS team is the same entity as every team in the past 8 years is silly. That's saying Diaco at his best is the same as BVG at his worst. I believe Elko is the real deal and he alone will win a few 50/50 games, like they had a chance to do last night.

 

[wizards8507]

I picked this team to go 9-3 with loses to SC, Stanford and either UGA or Miami. Can the team lose to all those and MSU? Sure. Could they go 10-2. Sure.

To act like THIS team is the same entity as every team in the past 8 years is silly. That's saying Diaco at his best is the same as BVG at his worst. I believe Elko is the real deal and he alone will win a few 50/50 games, like they had a chance to do last night.

We haven't won a 50/50 game (against a decent opponent) since Stanford 2012. When we DO win 50/50 games, it's against trash teams that we should be pounding.