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That's comparing a movie that came out recently to one from the early nineties. Box office numbers are much bigger across the board right now than they were then. Aladdin and Beauty came out a year apart.
And which is one of three animated films ever to be nominated for Best Picture?
 

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I have never watched Tarzan and have very little want to ... only way that happens is if one of my kids forces me. It just never interested me at all.
 

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And which is one of three animated films ever to be nominated for Best Picture?

The fact that Beauty and the Beast was nominated for Best Picture has as much to do with its own quality as that of other potential nominees. Both 1991 and 1992 were relatively weak years for Best Picture nominees but IMO 1992 was a bit stronger which made it harder for Aladdin to be nominated.

Beauty and the Beast is significantly more "adult-friendly" than Aladdin IMO which is another reason it was nominated.

I'm not arguing that Aladdin is better. But I do think they are on the same tier.
 

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The fact that Beauty and the Beast was nominated for Best Picture has as much to do with its own quality as that of other potential nominees. Both 1991 and 1992 were relatively weak years for Best Picture nominees but IMO 1992 was a bit stronger which made it harder for Aladdin to be nominated.

Beauty and the Beast is significantly more "adult-friendly" than Aladdin IMO which is another reason it was nominated.

I'm not arguing that Aladdin is better. But I do think they are on the same tier.

YOU THINK WHAT!?!?!?!?!
 

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Beauty and the Beast is weak. Except for Gaston. No one's slick as Gaston

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That's a hot take there, broham.
 

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So did Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted. Box office is no indicator of quality. Just ask Michael Bay.

Big difference between now and then.


Again...Aladdin is just better. Also, it's at 94% on Rotten Tomatoes, compared to BandtheB's 93%
 

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This thread just makes me want to watch Up. I'll need to do that next week

The winners (Silence of the Lambs and Unforgiven) are great movies but the other 4 nominees are very weak compared to other years.

Whoa whoa, are you trying to say that The Prince of Tides is not one of the great movies of the 90s? (I've actually never seen it, but it just strikes me as something that's not that good)
 

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I was going to peruse the "Political Correctness" thread, but evidently it redirects you to the "Movies You just Saw" thread.
 

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The winners (Silence of the Lambs and Unforgiven) are great movies but the other 4 nominees are very weak compared to other years.

I should add that I personally love A Few Good Men, but best picture nominee? cmon.
 

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The fact that Beauty and the Beast was nominated for Best Picture has as much to do with its own quality as that of other potential nominees. Both 1991 and 1992 were relatively weak years for Best Picture nominees but IMO 1992 was a bit stronger which made it harder for Aladdin to be nominated.

Beauty and the Beast is significantly more "adult-friendly" than Aladdin IMO which is another reason it was nominated.

I'm not arguing that Aladdin is better. Because everyone already knows it is.

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Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson = trump card

I've been listening to the Hamilton soundtrack on repeat for the last 8 months, and can't help but constantly quote it around my apartment, and this was the first thing I've listened to from the Moana soundtrack. Lin Manuel is f*cking nuts man. That guy sleeps in catchy lyrical hooks. I was honestly afraid to listen to the Moana soundtrack because it wouldn't live up to my expectations. That song made me smile so wide.
 

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Make The Jazz Singer required watching. But make it the one with Neil Diamond.
 

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That's good, song always seemed a little rapey to me.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby,_It's_Cold_Outside

Although some critical analyses of the song have highlighted parts of the lyrics such as "What's in this drink?" and his unrelenting pressure to stay despite her repeated suggestions that she should to go home,[2] more in depth analysis has noted that cultural expectations of the time period were such that women were not socially permitted to spend the night with a boyfriend or fiance, and that the female speaker states that she wants to stay, while "what's in this drink" was a common idiom of the period used to rebuke social expectations by blaming one's actions on the influence of alcohol;[3] the song is therefore a collusion by two willing lovers to engage in a romantic liaison, using the pretext "it's cold outside" as a shield against the social stigma of the time period against women making their own decisions about their sexuality.

Comes from Wikipedia, but yeah.

Agreed it sounds rapey, but that is in today's world, not the context of the time.
 

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It's about seduction.

Agreed. She doesn't want the stigma of cleeping over. He wants her too, and she does too. She'll use the excuse of the cold and being drunk as to why she should stay to her friends and family. "Better safe than sorry."

Read the lyrics of the new version. Makes me cringe.
 

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Agreed. She doesn't want the stigma of cleeping over. He wants her too, and she does too. She'll use the excuse of the cold and being drunk as to why she should stay to her friends and family. "Better safe than sorry."

Read the lyrics of the new version. Makes me cringe.
Yeah the new version is the equivalent of coming home from work and your wife is on the bed in lingerie and you're like "no, we should really go downstairs and watch the next episode of Stranger Things."
 

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Yeah the new version is the equivalent of coming home from work and your wife is on the bed in lingerie and you're like "no, we should really go downstairs and watch the next episode of Stranger Things."

As I read it, I felt like I was watching one of those really bad orientation videos about sexual harassment in the workplace when you start a new job.
 

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Yeah the new version is the equivalent of coming home from work and your wife is on the bed in lingerie and you're like "no, we should really go downstairs and watch the next episode of Stranger Things."

Women want romance, but they want verbal consent to every act. They want to be wined and dined but to be completely sober when having sex. They want to be complimented constantly but not objectified.

We can't win.
 
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