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SIAP, those two deputies in Louisiana are under arrest for murder and attempted murder. The victim's attorney says video shows the guy getting out of his car with his hands up. This is sounding like an assassination attempt, that took the life of an innocent. The father is in the hospital and has not been told about the fate of his son.

The police have not released everything but from all accounts of the facts these two cops should have the book thrown at their heads. IMO when an incident like this happens everyone in that policeman's chain of command, including their primary trainers should have to answer some questions. Obviously, the individual is responsible for their decisions, but we as citizens have to start to demand a change in the mindset and culture of those being given the authority to enforce our laws. The courts, the laws, and most of all the citizens of this country have allowed this pendulum to swing way beyond what should be comfortable to "the land of the free".
 

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I thought it was interesting to note, today, that CNN had a live feed from outside the church during Tyshawn Lee's funeral. There wasn't one single protestor, nor was there a single #blacklivesmatter sign.
 

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This isn't the USA yet...but it is our buddies in the UK...

England vs France match sees new counter terrorist police in military fatigues | Daily Mail Online

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It's not even that he shot him. It's the amount of time/pauses in the shooting, and the number of shots while he's on the ground incapacitated. That's an execution.
 
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There is not a good place for this so I will put it here. It's another excellent blog by Ben Watson on #BlackLivesMatter:
‪#‎BlackLivesMatter‬? - Benjamin Watson

BENJAMIN WATSON
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As Americans, do black lives matter to us?

August 27, 2015 | Blog: Truth In The Game, News


I missed “Say It Loud, I’m Black and I’m Proud” by a generation. Even so, the images of James Brown sweating out his conk on stage, a seemingly endless combustion of performance energy and dance moves, seem quite familiar due to his legendary status. Recently my uncle introduced me to that day in 1968 when that song was released, defying the inferiority myth, frustration and adversity which clouded the psyche of millions of black Americans. For the first time “I was proud to be black” my uncle reminisced. An accomplished world traveled dancer and choreographer with expertise in modern dance and ballet, he was once principal dancer for Alvin Ailey Dance Theater, performing before royalty and dignitaries, domestic and abroad. He recalled being called “beautiful” for the first time, once he left his birthplace of Norfolk, Virginia, and descended upon the melting pot that is New York City. For the first time his blackness was positive, unique, desired. His dark skin, wide nose and “nappy” black hair a treasured inheritance from a far away land instead of an undesirable curse, and mark of oppression.

Today instead of “I’m Black and I’m Proud” it is Black Lives Matter that continues to make headlines. The grass roots movement, which arose in 2012, marches on with the expressed intent of holding politicians and political parties accountable to the needs and dreams of black people. Over the last few years they have grown, demanding justice through sometimes questionable means while boldly bringing attention to the disparities between black life and white life in America. In true American fashion there has been pushback from people of all skin tones and political parties.

Some contention is with the very phrase itself. This is problematic, though, because “black lives matter” in context is clearly comparative to them not mattering. It obviously does not exist in a vacuum thus a response of “all lives matter” is disingenuous at best and outright insulting at worst. It SHOULD go without saying that “all lives matter”, including black lives, unborn lives, elderly lives, affluent and poor lives, Christian and atheist lives. But, today, in light of our present societal struggles and racial tension the question is worth addressing. As Americans, do black lives matter to us?

It’s clear looking at history from 1619, when the first Blacks sailed up the James, to 2015 when the first brown skinned man occupies the Oval Office, that their individual innate worth as human beings has grown exponentially in America’s eye. Yet in spite of all this, things still aren’t entirely OK.
The state of black lives has been the clearly identifiable scarlet thread woven through our four century long tapestry of liberty and while laws have been amended and created, what’s on the books and what’s in the hearts are at times still at odds.

Having the same legal privileges is paramount but respect for others is not dependent upon legislation, it’s directly connected to the condition of the heart. The black and white typed letter of the law can be non discriminatory while the administration of it is anything but.

In light of this movement I’ve asked myself, “Do black lives really matter to the people I work with, grocery shop with, and go to church with.” More importantly, I’ve asked myself, “do black lives matter to me?”

At times in my life I’ve felt that black lives didn’t matter to some white people….or even some black people. I’ve even believed the myth that my life somehow wasn’t as important as my white classmates, teammates and friends.

Whether we are totally naïve or if we intentionally promote such a message, by listening and watching closely we will easily see that in many ways black lives don’t matter.

Black lives don’t matter when the only time we learn about black heritage is black history month. And even then the same characters are paraded, as great and important as they are, as if they are all we have to be proud of. A people who don’t know their history, lack identity, and consequently, a positive self concept. Ancient and modern history, religious and secular, is riddled with contributions by Africans and blacks, but are many times only discovered through personal investigation outside of traditional academia.

Black lives don’t matter when the closer one’s physical features resemble Caucasians the “better” they are. The legacy of the bi-racial light skinned house slave versus the dark skinned field slave endure as an understood if not spoken hierarchy among us. Opportunities, acceptance, beauty are many times associated with whiteness.

Black lives don’t matter when neighbors, black neighbors, kill each other. It’s no surprise that people generally commit crimes against the people they live nearest to. Even so, the truth is that we treat people no better than the value we place on them and the dignity we have in ourselves.

Black lives don’t matter when some politicians enable generational dependency, stifling individual responsibility while others completely deny the importance of programs that are needed to help the marginalized. A crutch is the vital friend of the injured, it’s ultimate purpose to one day be laid aside as it’s former dependent walks on their own. If it oversteps it’s purpose the user will no longer feel the need to walk. Erroneously, they may not even think they can ever do so. Consequently, a stagnant, hopeless life seems to matter less.

Black lives don’t matter when we support and engage in the termination of our most important resource and our hope for a brighter future, our unborn children.

Black lives don’t matter when their very real and documented negative experiences with law enforcement, employment opportunities, and educational funding is belittled and dismissed. Compassion for another’s experience, even if foreign to us is paramount when encountering situations we can’t understand.
Black lives don’t matter when black offenders are generally termed thugs, the status quo, while whites are classified as mentally ill anomalies.

Black lives don’t matter when fathers selfishly abandon their children and their children’s mothers, teaching them that family is not a priority, and almost ensuring the cycle will repeat itself. A strong foundation gives children the fortitude to weather the storms they are sure to face throughout their lives.

But BLACK LIVES MATTER, when we look at our black children and imperfectly strive to show them the compassion, love, leadership, hard work and sacrifice a man should exhibit in hopes that our sons will carry the banner further and our daughters will set the bar high for their future spouses.

BLACK LIVES MATTER when we understand that the black community can not be characterized by headlines of a single story, because it is filled with multiple stories from millions of contrasting individuals.

BLACK LIVE MATTER when we look at our white children, and realize that they are internalizing and will imitate every attitude, action, comment, and expression we make when the next racially charged incident occurs or when we engage with others on a daily basis, who don’t look like us. They are future change agents as well. Some of the largest victories in through abolition and civil rights came because of the compassion and activism of our white brothers and sisters.

BLACK LIVES MATTER when we are willing to stand up to our friends and family when they make racist comments and jokes that are dead wrong. AND they matter when we refuse to flippantly use words created to demean and degrade even if we feel we have a right to.

BLACK LIVES MATTER when we are mature enough to understand that challenging the black community to improve in certain areas does not absolve the system of guilt, or deny that inequities and biases are still very much apart of our everyday lives. We must not always be so defensive that we can not see that some of the problems are our own.

BLACK LIVES MATTER when we desire the discomfort of change more than we desire to wallow in the comfort of conflict.

BLACK LIVES MATTER when all lives know their God given, intrinsic worth and realize that man foolishly looks on the outward appearance but God looks at the heart. That’s when we will no longer let these injustices define us or continue to perpetuate the attitudes, actions, and assumptions that forces us to raise our voices and scream about whose lives matter!

So historically, and in many ways presently, black lives don’t matter…. but so what. Where do we as a nation go from here? We make them matter where they don’t. We repent if we’ve been wrong or calloused. We repent if we’ve been bitter and vengeful. We become intentional in our relationships.

The burden of making black lives matter is on all of us. When it comes to race, the dining room in our homes is just as important as the court room in evoking true lasting improvement. What happens or doesn’t happen in these family times is paramount to our collective health as a society. I shall no more tell my children to succumb to their skin color and its supposed disadvantages then any parent whose offspring may be subject to any other form of adversity. I will, however, tell them that their color will not define them. I will instill in them a spiritual identity that supersedes anything this world can give. I will not ignore the importance of heritage and ethnic identity in their present success and self concept, but I will simultaneously teach them that their true identity is in Christ, and that that identity supersedes anything this world can offer.

The attitudes inherited by our different heritages can breed in us unhealthy attitudes if left unchecked, including the foolishness of supremacy and the myth of inferiority. The cross bridges the gap, the power of the blood penetrating deep into our wickedness, convicting us, forgiving us, and reconciling us to God and subsequently reconciling us to each other. Only in Christ do the temporal distinctions between us fade, as our oneness in him takes precedence over our color creed and culture and our allegiance to Him compels us to make those who matter to Him matter most to us.

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The one cop in five who pulled the trigger ... or the Mayor, Commissioner, and Prosecutor who sat on the video for 400 days?

It's my understanding they only released it because of FOIA. They had to therefore they had to do something about it since it was clearly an execution. I think the officer was getting paid desk duty during that time.
 

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Folks are getting pissed at a movement pleading that "Black Lives Matter."

They need to take a step back and ask themselves why this is making them so mad.
 

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The one cop in five who pulled the trigger ... or the Mayor, Commissioner, and Prosecutor who sat on the video for 400 days?

Or the other cops on the scene that helped give a false account, or the President of the FOP that lied on camera about what actually happened?
 

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Or the other cops on the scene that helped give a false account, or the President of the FOP that lied on camera about what actually happened?

it's truly a disgrace how not surprised we are about this.

Of course this happened.

There's been plenty of warning and other similar events leading up. It's sad that there's a whole 'conservative backlash' to it. We are incredibly intelligent people. I just don't get why we're acting like this.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">University of North Carolina issues alert for possible armed man on or near campus: <a href="https://t.co/9M6CyIBNej">https://t.co/9M6CyIBNej</a></p>— The Associated Press (@AP) <a href="https://twitter.com/AP/status/672058138833592320">December 2, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Baltimore police will investigate video that shows school officer hitting young man | Maryland News - WBAL Home


A video obtained by 11 News, which appears to show a Baltimore City Schools Police Department officer slapping and kicking a young man, will be investigated by the Baltimore Police Department.

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In Annapolis, Delegate Curt Anderson, a Baltimore Democrat, wants an outside investigation of the incident on the video.

"I don't know if I have the authority, but I'm asking the Maryland State Police to investigate. Right now, with the police chief being suspended, I am not so sure the Baltimore City school police can investigate this incident properly," Anderson said.

In tweet Wednesday, state Sen. Bill Ferguson, also a Baltimore Democrat wrote: "It's time for a top-to-bottom review of the Baltimore City Schools Police Department -- $8 million per year for police, yet $2.5 million per year on college advising."

The video brings up another hot topic because the officer was armed. State law prohibits officers from having guns in school. It's unclear exactly where this incident occurred.


DOJ investigation?
 
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I can't understand WHY any cop would think his life was in danger when a guy reaches toward his waistband while trying to pull away....
 

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We Now Have Algorithms To Predict Police Misconduct | FiveThirtyEight

On a sweltering Monday in late June 2015, the city council in Charlotte, North Carolina, met to discuss, among other items in a seven-hour marathon, how to carry out a controversial new approach to predicting police misconduct. Opinions were divided, and the discussion was tense. One council member was afraid of “upsetting the troops.” A second called the use of data about individual police officers an invasion of privacy. In response, another said, “I’m always a fan of third parties looking over our shoulder.”

Finally, Kerr Putney, soon to be sworn in as Charlotte’s new police chief, got up to reassure the council. He spoke about the need to “balance public need versus what officers may want.” He seemed to persuade several members.

“So it won’t be used for retribution?” one asked. “Absolutely not,” Putney replied.

Minutes later, the council voted to work with a group of data scientists to develop a sophisticated system for predicting when cops will go bad. These researchers, part of the White House’s Police Data Initiative, say their algorithm can foresee adverse interactions between officers and civilians, ranging from impolite traffic stops to fatal shootings. Their system can suggest preventive measures — an appealing prospect for police departments facing greater scrutiny and calls for accountability. Two other large departments — the Los Angeles County sheriff and the Knoxville police — have signed on to use the research to develop new systems, and several other agencies have expressed interest. The scientists hope their method can serve as a template for stopping police misbehavior before it happens.

Many police departments have early warning systems — software that tracks each officer’s performance and aims to forecast potential problems. The systems identify officers with troubling patterns of behavior, allowing superiors to monitor these cops more closely or intervene and send them to counseling.

The researchers, a mixed group of graduate and undergraduate students working together at the University of Chicago with backgrounds in statistics, programming, economics and related disciplines, are trying to build a better kind of early warning system. They began their task last summer with a request from the Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department: Predict when police officers would participate in adverse interactions with civilians.

To build their early warning system, the University of Chicago group first looked for signals in the data that an officer might be going astray. They used a comprehensive data set of interactions between cops and the public gathered by Charlotte police officials over more than a decade. The researchers found that the most potent predictor of adverse interactions in a given year was an officer’s own history.1 Cops with many instances of adverse interactions in one year were the most likely to have them in the next year. Using this and other indicators, the University of Chicago group’s algorithm was better able than Charlotte’s existing system to predict trouble.

The algorithm holds great promise for its cleverness and its accuracy. But the idea of using statistical models to predict police misconduct is not new, and past efforts have often met with resistance. In fact, the Chicago Police Department — now under intense federal scrutiny in the wake of the Laquan McDonald shooting — constructed such an algorithm more than 20 years ago, only to abandon it under pressure from the officers’ union, the Fraternal Order of Police.

Ironically, the Chicago Police Department crafted the approach partly because of criticism from the union. A previous early warning system, based on the recommendations of departmental supervisors, was itself the subject of a union grievance calling it subjective and inconsistent. Seeking a more objective way to identify troubled officers, the Internal Affairs office bought state-of-the-art software from a company called California Scientific. The software was to use neural-network-based data analysis to build models for predicting which officers would be fired for misconduct.

The department’s forward-thinking approach immediately attracted press attention. Articles in outlets as diverse as Scientific American and Playboy praised the sophistication of the method while raising questions about its moral dimensions: Could any computer algorithm, they asked, take into account the particular circumstances of officers’ behavior and foresee whether they would commit misconduct?

The list of predictive factors Internal Affairs found using the software is consistent with other studies of police misconduct, including my own. Along with each officer’s past history of complaints, Internal Affairs identified personal stressors linked to bad behavior. If an officer had recently divorced or gone into serious debt, for example, he was flagged by the algorithm as more likely to commit misconduct in the future. Like employees of any other kind, cops are likely to see their job performance suffer when there is trouble in their personal lives.

The neural network didn’t last long: about two years from the first announcement to its formal shutdown. (And all its reports and predictions went missing at some point in that period.) Soon after the model produced its first predictions, the union intervened; its president, Bill Nolan, called the system “absolutely ludicrous.” In particular, he objected to the way administrators responded to the predictions: Internal Affairs handed over a list of about 200 officers to Human Resources, which called each one into the office for questioning the union called adversarial.2

Human Resources then recommended some officers for a counseling program (about half of the flagged officers were already enrolled in counseling because of previous bad behavior). Nolan said police officers were being punished for crimes they had not yet committed.

At the time, the notion of using predictive analytics to forecast potentially criminal behavior was still quite foreign. Although 27 percent of departments reported using some kind of early warning system in 1999 (according to a Department of Justice study), most existing models were simple, based either on supervisor observations or on an officer’s exceeding a certain number of complaints in a given period. (Both Chicago’s current system and Charlotte’s previous algorithm use such thresholds.) The idea of a more sophisticated algorithm seemed spooky back then, and union leaders called the Chicago PD’s model a “crystal-ball thing.” Mark Lawrence, the CEO of California Scientific, received a handful of inquiries from other police departments, but he said interest in his software dropped off rapidly after the union’s well-publicized objections. (The Fraternal Order of Police did not respond to multiple requests for comment for this story.)

Now, advanced statistical models designed to quantify, measure and predict crime have become common tools in police departments across the country. But the Chicago experience illustrates the difficulty in getting smart early warning systems to stick. By developing their algorithm in partnership with officers, the University of Chicago team hopes to gain acceptance from the Charlotte police force as a whole and not just its administrators.

Instead of identifying and intimidating officers at risk of being fired, the new algorithm seeks to head off troublesome behavior. The team worked in close collaboration with the Charlotte police force, which volunteered for the program to upgrade its early warning system and prevent misconduct, despite having a relatively low rate of officer-involved violence. Over the course of several ridealongs, focus groups and field interviews with officers, the data scientists developed a feel for some of the challenges of modern policing. Officers “deal with a lot of things the typical person on the street doesn’t really think about,” said Joe Walsh, a data scientist and mentor assigned to supervise the project.

In addition to the prognostic value of past complaints, the University of Chicago group uncovered some less obvious factors that may predict police misconduct. Incidents that officers deemed stressful were a major contributor; cops who had taken part in suicide and domestic-violence calls earlier in their shifts were much more likely to be involved in adverse interactions later in the day. It’s notable that although stressful calls emerged as a powerful predictor, right now there is no way to control which officers are dispatched to crimes based on the number or kind of previous calls during their shifts.

Charlotte’s previous early intervention system was based on a simple threshold formula: Cops who had more than three adverse interactions in the past 180 days were flagged as a risk for problems in the next year. Supervisors then decided what corrective action to take, from changing the officers’ duties to recommending them for counseling.

To compare the system’s effectiveness with that of their new algorithm, the Chicago researchers broke their data into yearlong chunks. After training the algorithm to look for variables that predicted adverse interactions in past years, they tested the algorithm on more recent data to see whether it could make accurate predictions for individual officers, taking into account whether they had been disciplined or sent to counseling during the year.

The researchers say the prior system overestimated the number of officers at risk: 50 percent of the flagged officers in the data set did not go on to participate in an adverse interaction in the next year. And this was not because of successful interventions by the police department, since officers flagged by the system were often not directed to counseling.

The new algorithm flags 15 percent fewer officers than the old one, creating a smaller list for the department to monitor. (The researchers did not provide me with absolute numbers.) Yet it correctly identified more of the officers who went on to participate in adverse interactions in the following year, suggesting that the new system is more sensitive.

Because the algorithm is still in a pilot phase and not in active use, the researchers don’t know whether their predictions will translate into interventions that reduce the probability of adverse interactions. But three separate studies of police agencies that implemented early warning systems (in Miami, Minneapolis and New Orleans) have shown that targeted intervention can reduce citizen complaints against officers as much as 66 percent over two to three years. The more accurate the predictions, the more powerful those interventions become, and the more adverse interactions can be prevented.
 

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Has this been talked about? Kinda messed up. The dude was unarmed, on the ground and begging/crying not to shoot.... then the cop shot him in the back because he claimed to have looked to be reaching for something.

Shaver, a 26-year-old Texas native, had been staying at the Mesa La Quinta Inn on a business trip and invited a man and woman he had just met up to his room for drinks.

The trio were taking shots of rum when, at one point, Shaver opened a case to reveal a pellet gun inside, the report says.

Shaver told his new friends that he uses the pellet gun to kill animals inside Walmart stores for work, according to the police report.

The father-of-two pointed the gun out of his hotel room window at one point, which prompted someone to call the police.

Brailsford has been charged with second-degree murder for shooting the unarmed Shaver at La Quinta hotel in Arizona on March 25.
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Brailsford has been charged with second-degree murder for shooting the unarmed Shaver at La Quinta hotel in Arizona on March 25.
When cops arrived, they order Shaver and the woman he was with to come out of their room and crawl on the floor towards them, which he complies with, the report says.

The interaction with cops went terribly wrong when Shaver reached for his waist, possibly to pull up his pants — an officer on the scene yelled, “Don’t,” and then Officer Brailsford fired.

An Arizona judge ruled last week that the body cam footage would not be revealed publicly prior to the trial, according to ABC 15.

Media outlets, in addition to Laney Sweet, are fighting the protective order on the video.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ns-release-body-cam-footage-article-1.2587032

The prosecutors are also not letting the wife see the video and are trying to cut a deal for the officer in order to get him 3.75 years. This dude was a husband and a father. His family deserves a fair trial.

Police Report
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032016/m7279572.pdf

Video of scene
Witness: Man begged for life; Cop shot - CNN Video
 

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Has this been talked about? Kinda messed up. The dude was unarmed, on the ground and begging/crying not to shoot.... then the cop shot him in the back because he claimed to have looked to be reaching for something.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ns-release-body-cam-footage-article-1.2587032

The prosecutors are also not letting the wife see the video and are trying to cut a deal for the officer in order to get him 3.75 years. This dude was a husband and a father. His family deserves a fair trial.

Police Report
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032016/m7279572.pdf

Video of scene
Witness: Man begged for life; Cop shot - CNN Video

Regardless of race no one should ever feel the need to cry don't shoot while laying on the ground.
I know there's 99 good cops for every 1 bad cop, but at some point the 99 good cops need to realize this type of shit is why the public distrusts them so much.
 

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Regardless of race no one should ever feel the need to cry don't shoot while laying on the ground.
I know there's 99 good cops for every 1 bad cop, but at some point the 99 good cops need to realize this type of shit is why the public distrusts them so much.

Exactly this.
 

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Has this been talked about? Kinda messed up. The dude was unarmed, on the ground and begging/crying not to shoot.... then the cop shot him in the back because he claimed to have looked to be reaching for something.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...ns-release-body-cam-footage-article-1.2587032

The prosecutors are also not letting the wife see the video and are trying to cut a deal for the officer in order to get him 3.75 years. This dude was a husband and a father. His family deserves a fair trial.

Police Report
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032016/m7279572.pdf

Video of scene
Witness: Man begged for life; Cop shot - CNN Video

Don't get me wrong, the cop should have never shot the guy, but I just don't get what people think anymore. Society is on pins and needles these days. Even if I had a permit to carry a gun, I would not hold it up in front of a window for someone to see.
 

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Has this been talked about? Kinda messed up. The dude was unarmed, on the ground and begging/crying not to shoot.... then the cop shot him in the back because he claimed to have looked to be reaching for something.


Daniel Shaver's widow demands release of body cam footage - NY Daily News

The prosecutors are also not letting the wife see the video and are trying to cut a deal for the officer in order to get him 3.75 years. This dude was a husband and a father. His family deserves a fair trial.

Police Report
http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/032016/m7279572.pdf

Video of scene
Witness: Man begged for life; Cop shot - CNN Video

I would say the cop was in the right, maybe he should have tasered first. But it is hard to say what is going through his mind while arresting a drunk guy that has been waving around a gun.
 
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