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Wingman Ray said:
No offense but on what basis have you made your mind up that PJ is anything more than a could have been but isnt? The kid was good in HS. Maybe his competition sucked. Who knows? All we know is that he didnt develop to lead a D1 team.

As others have stated, I seriously doubt the coaches benched a superior player to play an inferior player just because the guy has an acne problem. If the guy was the guy, he would have played. No coach sabotages his program for a starter who wont have anything to do with the program in a year or so.
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I don't play the neg rep game. I post them in public. Hot takes are cool, this is shiit. Be better.
 
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Polish Leppy 22 said:
Moorhead to Oregon sounds as strange as Moorhead to Miss St did. It should help that he is a Catholic guy from Pittsburgh and has done well at strong academic schools.
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It should. It should help Oregon that they’re well-positioned to dominate the Pac 12 for the next few years. I hope he comes to ND but wouldn’t be at all surprised if he goes to Oregon instead. We’ll see.
 
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NDCrusader said:
I don't play the neg rep game. I post them in public. Hot takes are cool, this is shiit. Be better.
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WTH are you talking about? All I said is the coach wouldnt bench the guy for nothing. What is sh*t about what I said? How could I be better by stating we dont know the issue so why build a subjective case on info we dont have?

Take a chill pill
 
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Ndaccountant said:
I think he is a rental either way. The short term attractiveness of Oregon is 100% on which QB they bring in via transfer.

Who knows that he is thinking, but seems like a good spot to be in if he is picking between those two spots.
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They both kinda seem like rentals to me. Monken would go back to the pros in a heat beat dont you think?

I think the only reason I am more interested in him is that he has experience at ND before. Maybe I'm putting too much stock in that but I think it counts for something.
 
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NDdomer2 said:
They both kinda seem like rentals to me. Monken would go back to the pros in a heat beat dont you think?

I think the only reason I am more interested in him is that he has experience at ND before. Maybe I'm putting too much stock in that but I think it counts for something.
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All coordinators are rentals though. There aren't many Brent Venableses that are willing to be a coordinator for life. Most of them want a head job eventually, or NFL job eventually. Maybe by the time the rental moves on, Rees will be ready.
 
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FightingIrishLover7 said:
Why no love for Butch Jones? Kelly disciple
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I don't know if he would even go to ND as a coordinator.



Then he takes his contract pay from TN ($8.2M buyout) and goes under the wing of Saban as an apprentice for $35k a year. I believe he wants HC not coordinator. He interviewed for Rutgers HC.
 
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I can’t imagine Oregon hiring an OC with no experience. It could happen just don’t see it at a big D1 school. I wish Rees luck either way. I also can’t image that Moorhead would be willing to share duties in his demotion. But who knows
 
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WilliamWallace said:
I can’t imagine Oregon hiring an OC with no experience. It could happen just don’t see it at a big D1 school. I wish Rees luck either way. I also can’t image that Moorhead would be willing to share duties in his demotion. But who knows
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I could see Hall getting the Oregon gig, but wouldn't be surprised if Moorhead got it.

As far as Moorhead and titles go, I agree on him not wanting to be a "co", but also know jobs are drying up. If Elston wasn't AHC, I'd say make Moorhead that AND co-OC. Maybe give Moorhead the OC, and give Reesus a title bump like Passing Game Coordinator. I'd be fine with just sticking with Reesus. My gut still leans to Tommy. I just think he understands ND and the position, and we've played pretty darn good since he stepped up.
 
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If we fire Long and lose Rees and at the same time lose Phil Jurkovic because he didn't get along with Long and Rees, then hire Moorhead, in whose system Phil was born to play, only to watch Book struggle with the big-strike, downfield passing that Moorhead wants because that's not really Book's game... well, all that would be very Notre Dame in the 21st Century.
 
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Sooo....interviewing at another place...that says to me he knows something. You dont interview places just because you like to see what the area is like in January.
 
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Wingman Ray said:
Sooo....interviewing at another place...that says to me he knows something. You dont interview places just because you like to see what the area is like in January.
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I’m kinda thinking the same thing. Or maybe he’s trying to press BK into giving him the promotion.
 
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I think it’s all just an experience thing for Rees. Plus it makes ND look better if/when they retain him. It’s a win win for all. The biggest takeaway for me is that Rees is a valued young coach in the profession and this is just another example of that. Cristobal would t be wasting his time with an interview if they didn’t think he was worth it.
 
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A lot of people need to move past their views of what Tommy was as a player. He's very well respected by many including people outside of the Gug. Keeping him in South Bend would be a good thing moving forward. Maybe not as a OC this year, but it won't be long. He's going to be a serious candidate for a coordinator job after this year by big time universities.

Tommy was successful at ND as a QB with no arm talent and very limited physical tools for a reason. He has a very good offensive mind and he's also very well liked by kids on the recruiting trail.
 
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stlnd01 said:
If we fire Long and lose Rees and at the same time lose Phil Jurkovic because he didn't get along with Long and Rees, then hire Moorhead, in whose system Phil was born to play, only to watch Book struggle with the big-strike, downfield passing that Moorhead wants because that's not really Book's game... well, all that would be very Notre Dame in the 21st Century.
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Thank you for typing this out for me. The only thing you forgot add was the part about Moorhead being so distraught when the #1 QB on his board (Phil) committed to ND that he didn't chase him, instead he immediately turned to his Plan B... landing QB #2, which he did. That was Justin Fields.
 
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When you are talented and well respected, the resume' doesn't matter quite as much. This is Joe Brady's resume' and he is being interviewed by Matt Ruhle for the Panthers' OC position. Tommy is well respected in both the NFL and college game and will be landing an OC position soon. I really hope ND doesn't let him get away.
 
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Pops Freshenmeyer said:
I don’t know (obviously) but if I were Oregon and I wanted ND to stop pursuing the guy I really wanted then I would threaten to peel away their internal hire candidate.
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Along those lines, if I knew Tommy was the guy, and that half the fan base would be livid with the hire, I would leak this to show justification for the hire.
 
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Joe Brady is fine with being a 30 year old passing game coordinator working behind Ensminger at LSU for the next 3 years, at the end of which he’ll have to leave to get an OC position because Ensminger isn’t leaving. Obviously the results for the 1st year of that arrangement were great and clearly Ensminger isn’t complaining. I'm sure Rees realizes he’s in an even better situation as a 27 year old passing game coordinator working behind hopefully Moorhead for the next 3 years, at the end of which he’ll be handed the ND OC keys at probably 30 years old (and if he succeeds for 3 or 4 more years would probably be in the pole position to be the next ND HC unless Lea hangs around that long). Also, unlike Brady, Rees can count on good success for the offense over the next 3 years under Moorhead, whereas next year the LSU offense is going to remember really fast what it was like before the stars aligned for 1 year with that experienced oline, receivers and Burrow. Also, Rees has the luxury of knowing and helping to craft the talent he'll be working with in his 1st year, which will be immense - a 3rd year Buchner or a 5th year Clark at QB, nothing but NFL-level talent/frame guys on the Oline with a 4th year Baker, 5th year Carroll, 5th year Correll, 3rd year Fisher and 5th year Kristofic, a receiving core of NFL speed/frame guys with 4th year Johnson, 3rd year Styles, 3rd year Colzie, 4th year Watts, 4th year Mayer, and a 4th year Tyree and hopefully 3rd year Shipley at running back. Perfect situation for Moorhead too. It worked out well for him and his offense the last time he had a 27 year old wunderkind assistant QB expert when he was at PSU…Joe Brady.
 
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For those who are concerned about tight ends coach position if Moorhead is OC, remember that at Penn State, Ricky Rahne (a former QB who had never coached TEs before) switched from solely a QB coach in 2015 before Moorhead to, in 2016 with Moorhead, becoming TEs and Passing Game Coordinator, as well as asst to Moorhead with QBs. This led to Mike Gesicki winning the Mackey and getting drafted in the 2nd round. Rees, especially as a QB who relied on the TE, will be fine taking that same role. It'll be great experience for him as future OC. Not to mention there are two former TEs coaches on staff (Del Alexander and Brian Polian) to help whereas PSU didn't have anyone else with previous TE coach experience to help Rahne. Throw a good, former tight end graduate assistant at the position to boot and I think you're fine. Considering that Moorhead's offense is going to keep the position production up, 5 out of the last 6 featured ND tight ends played in the NFL in 2019 (if you even count Mack as the 6th) and we are about to have 6 out of 7 with Kmet (and 8 out of the last 9 if you count Fasano and Carlson who had solid careers), all with a variety of coaches, I don't think recruiting is going to suffer from not having an experienced TE coach.
 
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