Nov 14 | Boston College

[clashmore_mike]

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<br><strong>Notre Dame Fighting Irish at Boston College Eagles
Alumni Stadium
Chestnut Hill, MA
November 14, 2020
3:30 PM EASTERN
ABC</strong>

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[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cal DL grad transfer Luc Bequette, a 3-year starter for the Bears, transfers to Boston College & is immediately eligible</p>— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) <a href="https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/1303368131604369411?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[bobbyok1]

Jurkovec

Jurkovec

We're are so going to lose this game. Jurkovec is going to light us up, and Kelly is going to look foolish for choosing Book over him.

 

[calvegas04]

We're are so going to lose this game. Jurkovec is going to light us up, and Kelly is going to look foolish for choosing Book over him.

nah, we win

 

[Old Man Mike]

Jurkovec is playing against Clark Lea and the defense, not Ian Book.

We win.

 

[ResLife Hero]

We're are so going to lose this game. Jurkovec is going to light us up, and Kelly is going to look foolish for choosing Book over him.

I think he throws 3 picks to Hamilton like he did all camp before quitting. In all seriousness, I don't get the anxiety over this decision. Nothing I've seen from Phil at BC tells me he was the long term answer at ND, and I think our defense is going to outclass them.

 

[irishtrooper]

I think it’s fairly obvious that Phil has significantly more skill and talent than Book. If you can’t admit that, you’re lying to yourself or are Book’s mom. That being said, I can’t say who’ll have a better career as it’s hard to judge based on differing circumstances. I wanted to see more Phil last season, but I don’t think it was a slam dunk to replace Book then. I’m not rooting specifically for Phil (the way he’s acted lacks class) but I think he has WAY more upside.

 

[Dizzyphil]

I think it’s fairly obvious that Phil has significantly more skill and talent than Book. If you can’t admit that, you’re lying to yourself or are Book’s mom. That being said, I can’t say who’ll have a better career as it’s hard to judge based on differing circumstances. I wanted to see more Phil last season, but I don’t think it was a slam dunk to replace Book then. I’m not rooting specifically for Phil (the way he’s acted lacks class) but I think he has WAY more upside.

At least he can see over the offensive and defensive lines @ 6' 5"

 

[stpeteirish]

I think it’s fairly obvious that Phil has significantly more skill and talent than Book. If you can’t admit that, you’re lying to yourself or are Book’s mom. That being said, I can’t say who’ll have a better career as it’s hard to judge based on differing circumstances. I wanted to see more Phil last season, but I don’t think it was a slam dunk to replace Book then. I’m not rooting specifically for Phil (the way he’s acted lacks class) but I think he has WAY more upside.

But the issue really wasn't upside it was who starts for ND in 2020. I don't see how you can pick anyone but Book.

Whether or no Kelly and the staff could have done more to keep Phil around for another year without handing him the job is for the "insiders" to opine, I have no idea.

 

[irishtrooper]

Good point on upside. I suppose I’m speaking to the frustration of him not getting a longer look with regard to upside. Based on what all of us had seen up until the beginning of this season, I agree that Book should start. My issue is that there’s room for improvement and significant ability there to build on. Will it work out......? I don’t know. But I do know what Book is and what happens in big games against very talented teams. He will crap his pants

 

[notredomer23]

I get the frustration with Book. But to think Jurkovec who has been average at best this year is gonna best us is some take. Literally just put up 14 points on a defense that gave up 56 the week before. Easy to throw for a ton of yards when you’re always losing.

 

[irishtrooper]

I get the frustration with Book. But to think Jurkovec who has been average at best this year is gonna best us is some take. Literally just put up 14 points on a defense that gave up 56 the week before. Easy to throw for a ton of yards when you’re always losing.

We could do this all day. Again, for me the upside is the thing. Sick of watching our QB be worse than almost every QB (seemingly) that we face. Book scored 12 against a defense that was gashed all season too. I’m not pretending Phil is amazing or anything. He quite obviously has more physical ability and most of us fans wanted to see it on the field. I’m happy to root for Book and don’t want to see him fail, but I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be bad a few more times this season. Particularly against Clemson

 

[notredomer23]

We could do this all day. Again, for me the upside is the thing. Sick of watching our QB be worse than almost every QB (seemingly) that we face. Book scored 12 against a defense that was gashed all season too. I’m not pretending Phil is amazing or anything. He quite obviously has more physical ability and most of us fans wanted to see it on the field. I’m happy to root for Book and don’t want to see him fail, but I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be bad a few more times this season. Particularly against Clemson

Oh I don’t really disagree I just don’t think Phil being QB would have changed our record this year yet nor would it going forward. We should roll everyone (will we? Well we obviously saw Louisville) with the exception of Clemson and maybe UNC. My post was more in reference to Bobbyok saying Jurkovec is gonna light us up. Book may stink that game, but I’d wager BC’s offense led by Jurkovec outside of garbage time doesn’t score more than 2 TDs

 

[Crazy Balki]

Potential is oftentimes overrated.

Brandon Wimbush had more potential than Book, but he ended up usurped by Book in the end. A lot of QB's have more potential than Book and end up a lesser commodity than him.

Phil is more physically gifted than Book, but there's a lot more that goes into playing the QB position than just raw physical attributes.

So far, I've seen nothing to indicate we'd be better off with Phil at QB. This coming from somebody who thought he was going to be great.

So far, Phil's numbers have been okay on paper, but nothing special. Last week against VT, he was bad. Worse than Book bad.

Yeah, he had better raw numbers, but he also played from behind all game.

And this was the game where Phil's shortcomings finally caught up with him. He has a habit of throwing some gems, but also following it up by throwing some real duds and up until last week, he was fortunate to not have them picked off. Against VT, he was not so fortunate and it cost him. And keep in mind, this was a horrible VT secondary he was throwing against.

 

[Crazy Balki]

We could do this all day. Again, for me the upside is the thing. Sick of watching our QB be worse than almost every QB (seemingly) that we face. Book scored 12 against a defense that was gashed all season too. I’m not pretending Phil is amazing or anything. He quite obviously has more physical ability and most of us fans wanted to see it on the field. I’m happy to root for Book and don’t want to see him fail, but I’m pretty sure it’s gonna be bad a few more times this season. Particularly against Clemson

Alabama gave up 365 yards passing and 75% completion percentage to a QB who was picked off SIX TIMES against Arkansas.

It's a weird season.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Potential is oftentimes overrated.

Brandon Wimbush had more potential than Book, but he ended up usurped by Book in the end. A lot of QB's have more potential than Book and end up a lesser commodity than him.

Phil is more physically gifted than Book, but there's a lot more that goes into playing the QB position than just raw physical attributes.

So far, I've seen nothing to indicate we'd be better off with Phil at QB. This coming from somebody who thought he was going to be great.

So far, Phil's numbers have been okay on paper, but nothing special. Last week against VT, he was bad. Worse than Book bad.

Yeah, he had better raw numbers, but he also played from behind all game.

And this was the game where Phil's shortcomings finally caught up with him. He has a habit of throwing some gems, but also following it up by throwing some real duds and up until last week, he was fortunate to not have them picked off. Against VT, he was not so fortunate and it cost him. And keep in mind, this was a horrible VT secondary he was throwing against.

and Lville isn't?

 

[Crazy Balki]

Potential is oftentimes overrated.

Brandon Wimbush had more potential than Book, but he ended up usurped by Book in the end. A lot of QB's have more potential than Book and end up a lesser commodity than him.

Phil is more physically gifted than Book, but there's a lot more that goes into playing the QB position than just raw physical attributes.

So far, I've seen nothing to indicate we'd be better off with Phil at QB. This coming from somebody who thought he was going to be great.

So far, Phil's numbers have been okay on paper, but nothing special. Last week against VT, he was bad. Worse than Book bad.

Yeah, he had better raw numbers, but he also played from behind all game.

And this was the game where Phil's shortcomings finally caught up with him. He has a habit of throwing some gems, but also following it up by throwing some real duds and up until last week, he was fortunate to not have them picked off. Against VT, he was not so fortunate and it cost him. And keep in mind, this was a horrible VT secondary he was throwing against.

and Lville isn't?

For one, Tech is worse, because they're one of few teams that was hit by COVID worse than ND was.

Second, ND passed almost a third of the amount that BC did against VT. Book threw it 19 times, while Phil threw it 51. Not to mention, Phil wasn't throwing into gusts reaching 20-30 mph.

Book didn't have a good game, but on the flip side, he didn't have 2 of his starting receivers and the other was limited in action. Also, McKinley contributed to 3 of those incompletions with bad drops.

UL executed far better than they have at any point this season defensively, as Mike and co. from ISD attested. They've always had the talent, but they lacked the discipline and the lack of preparation due to COVID hurt them as they're still a young team.

VT merely exploited the issues Phil has had all season, but other teams were incapable of capitalizing on.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Jurkovec is not a QB who thrives in a system. That's true even in HS. There he waited until he got the urge to do something individual and could do it phenomenally well with his physicality and sneaky speed. He does the same thing in college, but facing players who will ultimately make the Wild Horse method of QBing pay.

Jurkovec in this is like a poor man's Michael Vick --- but with Vick being semi-supernatural and Jurkovec not. Maybe he's like a sort-of Terrell Pryor. In system they were mediocre; but breaking out on their own: sometimes spectacular; sometimes spectacular failures.

This doesn't mean Jurkovec can't evolve. He hasn't yet.

 

[irishtrooper]

Oh I don’t really disagree I just don’t think Phil being QB would have changed our record this year yet nor would it going forward. We should roll everyone (will we? Well we obviously saw Louisville) with the exception of Clemson and maybe UNC. My post was more in reference to Bobbyok saying Jurkovec is gonna light us up. Book may stink that game, but I’d wager BC’s offense led by Jurkovec outside of garbage time doesn’t score more than 2 TDs

We agree for the most part. I do not think Phil lights us up either. This defense will be ready to light him up and we have the talent to do just that.

 

[irishtrooper]

Alabama gave up 365 yards passing and 75% completion percentage to a QB who was picked off SIX TIMES against Arkansas.

It's a weird season.

I’ve read this book (see what I did there?) before on Book’s bad performances. This is a pattern by now. He’ll perform well a few times this year, he’ll have a few meh games and drop a few absolute steaming turds as well. Unfortunately those turds are almost certain against teams we need him to be solid at the very least.

 

[bobbyok1]

If ever there was a letdown game this would be it.

1. Big win against Clemson (hopefully)
2. BC watches the film of their 1993 upset of us after our big win against FSU in the game of the century
3. BC is actually a solid team this year
4. Jurkovec . . . Need I say more?

I am actually glad we are playing at their field so as to avoid any more comparisons

 

[RDU Irish]

If ever there was a letdown game this would be it.

1. Big win against Clemson (hopefully)
2. BC watches the film of their 1993 upset of us after our big win against FSU in the game of the century
3. BC is actually a solid team this year
4. Jurkovec . . . Need I say more?

I am actually glad we are playing at their field so as to avoid any more comparisons

The level of trappiness is off the charts. Not just BC but our backup QB - hopefully no Flutie anywhere b/c if it were a home game and I had to listen to him for this one my head would explode.

Already bad enough they slapped Clemson in the face last weekend just to make sure they were ready for ND.

 

[ThePiombino]

No fucking way this becomes a trap game with PJ at QB.

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[zelezo vlk]

No fucking way this becomes a trap game with PJ at QB.

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If this were just a regular BC QB who didn't get the ND offer, I'd be much more worried about this game.

BK, Rees, and Book are gonna want to win this game just to prove that they went with the right QB. Plus whose balls do we think Kyle Hamilton was intercepting all of last camp? One of the Irish podcasts brought that up last year and said without saying that it was mainly Phil throwing the picks.

 

[RDU Irish]

I hope they spent their lightning in a bottle at Clemson - just hate Backup College and would like to think ND will forever want to kick this dog thanks to that 1993 debacle.

 

[dublinirish]

Predictions - Phil is pulled in the 4th to protect him from getting broken up by ND pass rushers teeing off on him

 

[stpeteirish]

Kind of a stretch to think 1993 has anything to do with this year. None of the players were born and none(?)of the coaches on either team had anything to do with the 1993 game. Just fan angst which doesn't mean squat.

If fact, has BC beaten ND since Kelly took over?

 

[NDBoiler]

Predictions - Phil is pulled in the 4th to protect him from getting broken up by ND pass rushers teeing off on him

GET SOME

 

[calvegas04]

Gonna beat sweating these damn covid test now. Go Irish beat bc!

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Gonna beat sweating these damn covid test now. Go Irish beat bc!

Fuck BC
Fuck Phil

Let Clark smack Phil's ass

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