New Pope Elected

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This is just too funny...

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no access right now...please explain...

Just mentioned them a few times with Ann Thompson (ND Grad) giving analyse from Rome, then switched to a live feed from Notre Dame to get some comments some women who I didn't catch a name on, a professor maybe?

Brian Williams made a quick joke about the spotlight they were giving ND for the few moments too.
 
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Just mentioned them a few times with Ann Thompson (ND Grad) giving analyse from Rome, then switched to a live feed from Notre Dame to get some comments some women who I didn't catch a name on, a professor maybe?

Brian Williams made a quick joke about the spotlight they were giving ND for the few moments too.

Elizabeth Cummings.
 

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So I guess the whole "new name= reformer" thing is going to take a lap for this round?

ha, yeah, I've read that he's credited with having achieved some degree of modernization in Argentina, but I think he is basically conservative. At least he's what we would call conservative in this country. He's not pro-gay marriage or anything. He may have been born in South America but it will be basically business as usual.
 

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So I guess the whole "new name= reformer" thing is going to take a lap for this round?

Someone stated that Bergoglio was considered a "liberal" choice by the conclave, but thus far, I haven't found any indication of such (even by Catholic standards).
 

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ha, yeah, I've read that he's credited with having achieved some degree of modernization in Argentina, but I think he is basically conservative. At least he's what we would call conservative in this country. He's not pro-gay marriage or anything. He may have been born in South America but it will be basically business as usual.

Someone stated that Bergoglio was considered a "liberal" choice by the conclave, but thus far, I haven't found any indication of such (even by Catholic standards).

it's cause all those darn Jesuits are liberal!!
 

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Am I correct in saying that the vote of the Cardinals is believed by Catholics to be the direct will of God, when they finally get a Pope?

Yes, Diego Maradona is on record in 1986 as saying:

"a little with the hand of God"

is that enough of an authority?? Maradona meant it in a different context though.



Pope Francis may need a dedicated 3 days a week of his time for the next 3 years, just to absolve Maradona's 1990's sins
 

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Socially Moderate and Theologically Conservative is what I see. But find me a member of the clergy that isn't Moderate to Liberal on social issues.

I don't follow. He strikes me as conservative on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion. Or do you consider those theological issues? If so, what are social issues? He seems to be a real champion of the poor, if that's what you mean, but as you say that's pretty uncontroversial.
 

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it's cause all those darn Jesuits are liberal!!

They usually are (for Catholic priests, at least).

Pope's can't change this stuff. I don't know where people got the idea that popes can come in and change the sacraments of the Church.

The right Pope could change a lot of things-- clerical celibacy (at least at the Diocesan level), transparency, accountability, etc.
 

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I don't follow. He strikes me as conservative on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion. Or do you consider those theological issues? If so, what are social issues? He seems to be a real champion of the poor, if that's what you mean, but as you say that's pretty uncontroversial.

Yeah. There is a theological underpinning for the Church's stances gay marriage and abortion. I guess they are social issues too though. I was looking at social issues as the ones that fall within Catholic Social Justice. Just the way my mind draws the dichotomy.
 

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They usually are (for Catholic priests, at least).



The right Pope could change a lot of things-- clerical celibacy (at least at the Diocesan level), transparency, accountability, etc.


Hope we are not going to see a "those are Pope Benedict XVI's guys"
 
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