ND's Current Class Ranking

[NDdomer2]

I dont think espn has updated their player rankings in a while.

When is the opening? I would imagine they will update after that.

 

[peoriairish]

#20 overall #1 OLB Matthew Thomas out of Miami uncommitted

#38 overall #2 OLB Daniel McMillian out of Jacksonville committed to Florida

....Hutchings is #4 OLB

Thanks man. I'll have to check out their video before I pass judgement but I agree with what Jaylon said yesterday... he's the best player in the country. ESPN hasn't redone their rankings in a while though; since before he was tearing up these camps if I'm not mistaken.

 

[magogian]

I think ESPN does some reranking this next week.

 

[beryirish]

Yeah ESPNs rankings are their initial rankings...I'm sure like you guys said they will update after some of the camps...usually after the summer...mid way through the season and finally after the All-Star games.

 

[bibigon]

It's been statistically demonstrated a bunch of times that ESPN's recruiting rankings are at best 3rd best of the bunch, and maybe behind 247 as well. I wouldn't get worked up.

Even if you assume that Rivals has rated everyone perfectly, then ND should rank better than 9th. They've got A&M ranked 6th for instance, in spite of them having the same number of 4*+ recruits, but with ND having the sole 5* guy of the bunch. I don't think anyone would take the A&M current class, on the strength of 9 three stars ahead of us.

Three star recruits are great. They often go on to be stars, and every team needs them. But until they blossom, they also have nothing to do with the overall quality of your class. They just reflect your level of attrition. (They matter obviously for MAC schools, who are trying to avoid two star guys, and hoping to land three stars, but not for ND, UM, Bama, etc...)

Using the Rivals rankings, a 5* recruit is about 2.67 times more likely to be a star than a 4* recruit (per Matt Hinton's studies). Using that weighting, you can redo the Rivals rankings, taking out the class size advantages of UM and A&M. You get:

1. UM
2. Texas
3. Alabama
4. Ohio State
5. USC
6. LSU
7. Florida
8. Notre Dame
9. Georgia
10. Auburn

That looks about right to me honestly. UM still probably has the best class so far, but the gap is extremely small between them and Texas. Ohio State and USC deserve credit for their monstrous classes so far as well, while Georgia and A&M take a step back.

 

[peoriairish]

Mike Farrell ‏@rivalsmike
I was just called a #NotreDame homer #Irish fans! @bunkerf16: @rivalsmike @TremendousDen I don't know....you tell me.....#NDHomer

Just thought this was humorous.

 

[NDPhilly]

I doubt Jalon moves up that much on ESPN because he innthe US ARMY all American game, the UA games main rival.

 

[ACamp1900]

He has to move down Espns board so cowheard can continue to say nd doen't get players any more. When he flips to tOSU he'll go back up...

 

[IrishLax]

Montelus and Butler are going to be getting bumps in the next 247 update. Montelus is laughably low on 247 right now. That should move us into the #7 spot... we're currently #8 and the highest rated team with 13 commits or fewer.

 

[Irishman77]

Now ranks #7 on 247 and #8 on rivals. By NSD I see Robinson as the only recruit we got now not to get 4stars. That will be something to laugh about when he is playing on Sundays

 

[Green Mountains]

Actually, Jaylon's commit has raised our ranking on Scout, Rivals and 247.

Scout: moved from 8 to 5
Rivals: from 10 to 9
247: from 10 to 8

ESPN hasn't updated yet.

I checked all the sites just before Jaylon made his announcement.

Big Isaac moves the Irish up another spot in the rankings:
Scout: moved from 5 to 4
Rivals: from 9 to 8
247: from 8 to 7

And ESPN hasn't updated.

 

[NDhoosier]

I personally think we are in the 4-6 range right now... Still think Rivals and 247 are just a tad low, but it doesnt really matter what they think, I really like this class so far.

 

[yankeeND]

I personally think we are in the 4-6 range right now... Still think Rivals and 247 are just a tad low, but it doesnt really matter what they think, I really like this class so far.

I hear ya, I don't care the number next to this class. Filling needs with a lot of quality!

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

1. Michigan
2. Florida
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. Georgia
6. Texas A&M
7. Ohio State
8. USC
9. Auburn
10. Notre Dame

ESPN's initial rankings.

 

[yankeeND]

1. Michigan
2. Florida
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. Georgia
6. Texas A&M
7. Ohio State
8. USC
9. Auburn
10. Notre Dame[/QUOTE

I think it's because they have Dee Liner and Carl Lawson rated so high.

 

[IrishLax]

1. Michigan
2. Florida
3. Alabama
4. Texas
5. Georgia
6. Texas A&M
7. Ohio State
8. USC
9. Auburn
10. Notre Dame

From what site? On 247...


1 Alabama 17 2 11 3 91.47 761.58
▼
2 Michigan 21 0 17 3 90.71 754.03
▼
3 Georgia 20 1 12 7 90.65 746.60
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4 Texas 14 0 11 3 92.64 737.74
▼
5 Texas A&M 17 0 7 10 89.41 735.94
▼
6 Florida 16 1 8 7 90.44 735.25
▼
7 LSU 17 0 8 9 89.82 733.89
▼
8 Notre Dame 14 1 9 4 91.36 730.81
▼
9 South Carolina 17 0 6 10 87.12 716.55
▼
10 Ohio State 11

 

[FLDomer]

How is Auburn ranked 9th (1) 5* and (4) 4* and (5) 3*??
Also Ohio State ranked 7th (10)4* and (1) 3*!?!?!

ESPN, Com'on Man!?!?!

 

[]\/[GoBlue]

Here is your average star rating on all the main sites, per mgoblog.


Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings
Rank School # Commits Rivals Avg Scout Avg 24/7 Avg ESPN Avg Avg Avg^
1        Michigan              21 3.62           3.90           3.76           3.71           3.75
2       Notre Dame          14 3.64           3.93           3.79           3.86           3.80


*as always apologies to anyone who thinks I'm trolling*

 

[]\/[GoBlue]

double post

 

[BGIF]

How is Auburn ranked 9th (1) 5* and (4) 4* and (5) 3*??
Also Ohio State ranked 7th (10)4* and (1) 3*!?!?!

ESPN, Com'on Man!?!?!

The recruits within a Star Category vary in weight. All Four Stars are not equal and so on.

 

[BGIF]

Here is your average star rating on all the main sites, per mgoblog.


*as always apologies to anyone who thinks I'm trolling*

Thanks for the post!

By the way, nervous ND fans, notice that ND leads UM in each of the recruiting services averages.

 

[NDdomer2]

Posting pro ND news is hardly trolling.

 

[PANDFAN]

Posting pro ND news is hardly trolling.

u never know on this board who are pre-menstrual and take it the wrong way

 

[Old Man Mike]

As GOBLUEs post shows [thanks, by the way], Michigan's current class is great [people should just shut up and admit it], AND Notre Dame's current class is great. The difference in the teams has been: Notre Dame has better depth across the positions roster wide, and Hoke is running hard to fix that. AND, UofM has .... well ... The Denard. There's no way around accepting that Michigan's going to be real good, and when ND gets the QB thing solved, we are going to be at least as good. All of us should just settle back and watch this ride --- we only have to put up with Denard one more year. If we can corral him for four quarters this year, then we're better elsewhere and will win. It will be a battle, however.

 

[BGIF]

u never know on this board who are pre-menstrual and take it the wrong way

Some are post-menpausal and that didn't help.

 

[phork]

u never know on this board who are pre-menstrual and take it the wrong way

You got that right.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Here is your average star rating on all the main sites, per mgoblog.


Big Ten+ Recruiting Class Rankings
Rank School # Commits Rivals Avg Scout Avg 24/7 Avg ESPN Avg Avg Avg^
1        Michigan              21 3.62           3.90           3.76           3.71           3.75
2       Notre Dame          14 3.64           3.93           3.79           3.86           3.80


*as always apologies to anyone who thinks I'm trolling*

No 247 rankings? what's up with that

 

[BGIF]

No 247 rankings? what's up with that

See 24/7, the third set of averages.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

No 247 rankings? what's up with that

It's in there. 6th column from the left, 3rd from the right.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Oh yeah sorry guys I'm an idiot. I fail!