MIT Shooting

[NDWorld247]

I'm thinking he is going to attempt the "brainwashed minion" defense like that kid who was involved in the DC sniper shootings, In that case I think the older guy got death and the kid got life?

That's correct. I see it going that way as well.

 

[greyhammer90]

It doesn't really matter. He'll never hurt anyone again and it costs roughly the same in tax payer money either way. Maybe he'll get some years in solitary, that's much much worse than a death penalty.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

The death penalty is not a given. I like Tommy's idea the best. Tsarnaev is being held 5 minutes from my house and on land bordering my uncle's property. I also know a few guards at the prison. I'm going to call in some favors and get this taken care of...

Tsarnaev May Face Death Penalty | WPRI.com

WASHINGTON (AP) — If the Obama administration tries for the death penalty against Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, it could face a long, difficult legal battle in a state that hasn't seen an execution in nearly 70 years.

Attorney General Eric Holder will have to decide several months before the start of a trial — if there is one — whether to seek death for Tsarnaev. It is the highest-profile such decision yet to come before Holder, who personally opposes the death penalty.


In the past 4 ½ years, the Justice Department has sought executions in several instances. But, in an indication of how protracted the process can be, none of the administration's cases has yet put anyone on death row.

Massachusetts abolished its own death penalty in 1984, but Tsarnaev is being prosecuted in federal court. Since the federal death penalty was reinstated in 1988, only three people, including McVeigh, have been executed. Others have pending appeals.

In cases where federal juries have chosen between life and death, they have imposed twice as many life sentences as death sentences — 144 to 73 — according to the Federal Death Penalty Resource Counsel Project, a two-decade-old group created by the Administrative Office of the United States Courts.

Settle down, Godfather...

 

[NDWorld247]

Settle down, Godfather...

If only I had the clout of this man...

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And just so there's no confusion....to my friends at the NSA, my post at 12:51 AM EST on Thursday, July 11 was solely an attempt at some humor and in no way should be taken seriously.

 

[NDinFL]

If you're a young man, seems like life in prison would be worse than the death penalty.

Just my opinion, and no I'm not against the death penalty.... I'll have NDWorld247 put a horse's head in your bed if you disagree

 

[Bogtrotter07]

If only I had the clout of this man...

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And just so there's no confusion....to my friends at the NSA, my post at 12:51 AM EST on Thursday, July 11 was solely an attempt at some humor and in no way should be taken seriously.

I have really been enjoying and appreciating your posts lately. But after reading you comments on this thread, I am kind of glad you don't . . .

 

[blueNDgold44]

Anyone catch the E:60? Very emotional. Crazy to think it was only 1 year ago today.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Anyone catch the E:60? Very emotional. Crazy to think it was only 1 year ago today.

And police denoted 2 backpacks at the finish line just tonight. Smdh.

 

[blueNDgold44]

And police denoted 2 backpacks at the finish line just tonight. Smdh.

Absolutely ridiculous

 

[Bishop2b5]

It doesn't really matter. He'll never hurt anyone again and it costs roughly the same in tax payer money either way. Maybe he'll get some years in solitary, that's much much worse than a death penalty.

You're right, but it doesn't have the same feeling of justice served as seeing him executed. OTOH, a little time in general population might convince him that a death sentence would've been preferable.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

And police denoted 2 backpacks at the finish line just tonight. Smdh.

Detonated?

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Watched the youtube video of the national anthem at the first Bruins' game after the marathon last year.

Goosebumps.

 

[IrishLion]

It doesn't really matter. He'll never hurt anyone again and it costs roughly the same in tax payer money either way. Maybe he'll get some years in solitary, that's much much worse than a death penalty.

You know what doesn't cost too much in taxpayer money? A single bullet.

#BringBackFiringSquads

 

[Bogtrotter07]

You know what doesn't cost too much in taxpayer money? A single bullet.

#BringBackFiringSquads

Actually, the first bullet delivered without due process has the greatest expense of all. It costs us all our freedom.

John Adams would endorse this statement.

 

[IrishLion]

Actually, the first bullet delivered without due process has the greatest expense of all. It costs us all our freedom.

John Adams would endorse this statement.

Not sure where you're going with that lol.

When debating whether he should get death or life in prison, citing the cost of either as an argument, I say do the cheapest thing and use one bullet. Way cheaper than keeping a guy in prison for life or using chemical mixtures.

 

[greyhammer90]

Not sure where you're going with that lol.

When debating whether he should get death or life in prison, citing the cost of either as an argument, I say do the cheapest thing and use one bullet. Way cheaper than keeping a guy in prison for life or using chemical mixtures.

While the chemical mixtures are costly, I believe the bulk of the expense from executing someone comes from the legal process. The bifurcated trial, the appeals, the lawyer and judges and clerks that have to deal with it, etc. It's a long, expensive process.

So using a bullet wouldn't make life/death sentences equal, unless you were talking about eroding some of the legal protections provided before we kill a guy.

 

[IrishLion]

While the chemical mixtures are costly, I believe the bulk of the expense from executing someone comes from the legal process. The bifurcated trial, the appeals, the lawyer and judges and clerks that have to deal with it, etc. It's a long, expensive process.

So using a bullet wouldn't make life/death sentences equal, unless you were talking about eroding some of the legal protections provided before we kill a guy.

I still say we stick with the bullet and at least save some cash.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Not sure where you're going with that lol.

When debating whether he should get death or life in prison, citing the cost of either as an argument, I say do the cheapest thing and use one bullet. Way cheaper than keeping a guy in prison for life or using chemical mixtures.

Really? You don't?

While the chemical mixtures are costly, I believe the bulk of the expense from executing someone comes from the legal process. The bifurcated trial, the appeals, the lawyer and judges and clerks that have to deal with it, etc. It's a long, expensive process.

So using a bullet wouldn't make life/death sentences equal, unless you were talking about eroding some of the legal protections provided before we kill a guy.

Which is an option for most people that have little awareness of the legal system; until their own stupid offspring gets accused of a crime they may not have committed and people are calling for their blood.

Besides, I don't get the bloodlust for murder. I thought that was what this guy was supposed to have done.

 

[Emcee77]

While the chemical mixtures are costly, I believe the bulk of the expense from executing someone comes from the legal process. The bifurcated trial, the appeals, the lawyer and judges and clerks that have to deal with it, etc. It's a long, expensive process.

So using a bullet wouldn't make life/death sentences equal, unless you were talking about eroding some of the legal protections provided before we kill a guy.

Right. Direct appeal, state post-conviction remedies, federal habeas corpus ... it takes years and a lot of legal work by a lot of different people for a condemned inmate to exhaust all his opportunities to reverse or attack the judgment.

And we wouldn't want to scale back those protections because we want to be damned sure we don't execute an innocent man. This article from a few years ago changed my perspective on the death penalty on that point:

Cameron Todd Willingham, Texas, and the death penalty : The New Yorker

I used to think all those endless appeals and petitions were a waste of time, but it's not crazy to fear that there are innocent people on death row.

 

[woolybug25]

I still say we stick with the bullet and at least save some cash.

I'm guessing that if you were wrongly accused and on death row, you wouldn't be telling them to, "Save some money and don't worry about the appeals. Just bring a bullet."

 

[IrishLion]

I'm guessing that if you were wrongly accused and on death row, you wouldn't be telling them to, "Save some money and don't worry about the appeals. Just bring a bullet."

Should have specified... I didn't mean to skip due process.

I meant if someone is sentenced to death, why spend the money on the chemical mixture when you can use a single bullet?

Is it really more "cruel and unusual" than being injected with life-ending chemicals?

 

[Henges24]

Just read the first 4-5 pages of this thread when everything was going down.

Absolutely crazy.

 

[blueNDgold44]

Just read the first 4-5 pages of this thread when everything was going down.

Absolutely crazy.

By far the most memorable moment of my time on IE. Listening to the police scanner all night is something I will never forget.