Paterno Statue Down/PSU Penalties?

[CTIDANDREW]

His issue was with Rutgers and Pitt getting better by taking Penn State's recruits, who can and do compete with us in the Northeast for studs, not recruiting against them directly. Big difference.

After re-reading the post I now see that. My apologies.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Now that we all are friends again . . .

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I just saw that top returning WR Justin Brown may be leaving. Possibly to Oklahoma.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Paterno's are appealing NCAA sanctions. Best of luck on that.

Paterno Family Files Appeal Against NCAA - Onward State

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

The Paterno family is still talking? They need to shut up and go away. Its over.

 

[RyCo1983]

The appeal from the family was denied! They can't appeal.

Awesome...they look more and more pathetic with every passing press release.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Justin Brown reportedly transferring to OU. As if they needed any more offensive weapons.

 

[NDPhilly]

He's gonna be there #4 receiver smh.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Justin Brown reportedly transferring to OU. As if they needed any more offensive weapons.

I'm not looking forward to our Irish having to play against him. He's pretty good.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Most underrated player at Penn State.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

DT Jamil Pollard transferring to Rutgers.

 

[IrishMoore1]

I don't. Texas needs a kicker badly, and now they get it without having to do any real recruiting, without having to predict if a h.s. school has 'it'. They had a chance at this kid in high school and they passed.

Your hatred for Penn St clouds the fact that other programs are benefiting from their demise, most notably USC and a team we recruit against out of the Northeast (Rutgers). I don't see how, as a ND fan, that can make you happy.

You're right. The fallout from the Penn State sanctions benefits other teams that we either compete against directly or in recruiting. It doesn't help us at all that our opponents (USC and Oklahoma) are getting really good players that can play right away. There's already enough going against ND with the tough 2012 schedule, finding a new QB along with other new players at key positions, and now the schedule is getting tougher by the day. A lot is riding on this season just like every other season. A perfect storm is starting to brew and it ain't favoring the Irish this season.

 

[yankeehater]

He's gonna be there #4 receiver smh.

ESPN reported that every receiver on OK roster with a catch is currently under suspension so he could end up #1.

 

[RyCo1983]

DT Jamil Pollard transferring to Rutgers.

That is old news my friend.
Rumord swirling about a handful of other guys too.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

That is old news my friend.
Rumord swirling about a handful of other guys too.

Yea I don't know why someone tweeted that today looking back in the thread Feldman reported it days ago.

 

[phgreek]

I don't. Texas needs a kicker badly, and now they get it without having to do any real recruiting, without having to predict if a h.s. school has 'it'. They had a chance at this kid in high school and they passed.

Your hatred for Penn St clouds the fact that other programs are benefiting from their demise, most notably USC and a team we recruit against out of the Northeast (Rutgers). I don't see how, as a ND fan, that can make you happy.

isn't SC still on probabtion/limited scholarships as of right now?

 

[NDinL.A.]

isn't SC still on probabtion/limited scholarships as of right now?

Yes, this will be their 1st year of 3 that they'll be on a restriction of 75 roster players, and the 2013 class will be their 2nd restricted class.

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

I wonder if any PSU players failed to show up for the start of camp today.

 

[Yes]

I don't. Texas needs a kicker badly, and now they get it without having to do any real recruiting, without having to predict if a h.s. school has 'it'. They had a chance at this kid in high school and they passed.

Your hatred for Penn St clouds the fact that other programs are benefiting from their demise, most notably USC and a team we recruit against out of the Northeast (Rutgers). I don't see how, as a ND fan, that can make you happy.

We don't play Texas until 2015, and PSU's kicker is going to be gone after this year. So since that transfer doesn't affect ND it doesn't bother me at all.

Obviously our hate for PSU clouds our judgement of these transfers, but living in Pennsylvania that's kind of expected. I am upset about Redd going to USC, but they were going to be a Top 3 team either way. Penn St. without Redd loses most of their offense in one transfer, while USC just gains another weapon.

 

[phgreek]

Yes, this will be their 1st year of 3 that they'll be on a restriction of 75 roster players, and the 2013 class will be their 2nd restricted class.

So let me get this straight...SC, a school under disciplinary action from the NCAA is benefitting from another team's poor conduct...and everyone spare me the moral equivalency discussion...regardless of the degree of crime USC committed compared to PSU, they are still being disciplined, and it is somewhere between idiocy and lunacy that the NCAA could let them benefit from the failings of PSU.

...reality is, we will eat Redd...and I predict if they try and run him more than 15 times...he leaves injured...KO'd. Barkley is the one that will kill us...so this hasn't changed anything for us...but everyone with a sense of decency knows this is wrong...and a Horrible message that adds more ??? regarding Emmert's wisdom and fitness to make any kind of decision.

Is Dr. Emmert incompetent? How can you take precedent setting action to send a message, and then not stop long enough to see this consequence coming...and avoid it...does he know this makes him look...well completely incompetent.

You can't be credible in a leadership role, and do stuff like this...Emmert is not good for the NCAA...an organization already getting killed for being hypocritical and arbitrary/subjective...!

 

[NDhoosier]

Agreed, I still cant believe the NCAA is allowing U$C to benefit from PSU's scandal... The NCAA has no balls any more.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

OTL: Penn State trustees to appeal sanctions with plans of filing suit | CollegeFootballTalk Penn State is a disgrace wow lol.

 

[DSully1995]

Agreed, I still cant believe the NCAA is allowing U$C to benefit from PSU's scandal... The NCAA has no balls any more.

IT will even out next year ytou know that right? 76 this year so only 74 next.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

Just saw on ESPN that the Penn State BOT has now filed an appeal. As a precursor to filing a federal appeal. Could have sworn I saw some where that if they did that that the NCAA was gonna look into disassociation.

 

[phgreek]

OTL: Penn State trustees to appeal sanctions with plans of filing suit | CollegeFootballTalk Penn State is a disgrace wow lol.

...and here we go...

See, this is stupid..but pretty predictable, and I think the NCAA is vulnerable. I wish PSU would go away and take the punishment. But I figured this might end up in court. Folks can feel Emmert was justified in pretzeling LOIC...but it was never used in the context of anything other than a descriptor of a situation that lead to multiple rules infractions...there were no NCAA rules infractions at PSU...Somebody Was going to see that as a problem...eventually.

...hope the NCAA gets lucky and gets a judge with more vision than they, the NCAA themselves have demonstrated.

My first wish is that the judge tells PSU...no way ...you agreed to this style of justice by joining the NCAA. Take it, and move on. No case.

...but don't be shocked if a judge looks at the entire thing as the NCAA usurping the role of the justice system. Said judge then looks at it such that the NCAA tortured the definition and precedence associated with LOIC, and from that flawed basis issued punishment...

In a nutshell, I don't think a judge would be wrong-headed if he/she was thinking...hey, moral outrage from the public is not really a defense for making sh!t up as you go...this is a big enough change in interpretation that I would expect some due process in your organization to adopt this, and by definition that'd be after PSU's transgressions, and the NCAA and the BIG already had remedies outside this LOIC thing that would have dealt with PSU without changing a thing...whats the deal? NCAA you at least have some splainin to do w/regard to your behavior...case goes forward. Uh OH!

little CCR now...

I see the bad moon arising.
I see trouble on the way.
I see earthquakes and lightnin'.

 

[Rhode Irish]

I hope they just obliterate the program now. Not just a "X years" death penalty, but like completely and totally donezo. How could a community be so incredibly myopic and tone deaf?

 

[phgreek]

Just saw on ESPN that the Penn State BOT has now filed an appeal. As a precursor to filing a federal appeal. Could have sworn I saw some where that if they did that that the NCAA was gonna look into disassociation.

my understanding is...disassociation was always an option, and requires a vote from other member institutions...

this was my favored method for dealing with this anyway.

The BIG can throw them out with a vote...but the NCAA members can throw them out ...out, so no action would be required form the BiG or NCAA rules people.

Seems like the NCAA presidents could have lobied and gotten that done...why Emmert went down the rules path...who knows. He frustrates me because he looks like a man exercising power based on public outcry, operating out of malice. What was called for in MHO was an even handed leader who let the exisitng process play out...The vote-out by member institutions is the death penalty of all death penalties...Emmert stepped on his d!ck...and now I wander if disassociation will be an option if a judge gets involved...this got effed up in a big way...

 

[Cali_domer]

my understanding is...disassociation was always an option, and requires a vote from other member institutions...

this was my favored method for dealing with this anyway.

The BIG can throw them out with a vote...but the NCAA members can throw them out ...out, so no action would be required form the BiG or NCAA rules people.

Seems like the NCAA presidents could have lobied and gotten that done...why Emmert went down the rules path...who knows. He frustrates me because he looks like a man exercising power based on public outcry, operating out of malice. What was called for in MHO was an even handed leader who let the exisitng process play out...The vote-out by member institutions is the death penalty of all death penalties...Emmert stepped on his d!ck...and now I wander if disassociation will be an option if a judge gets involved...this got effed up in a big way...

2/3 vote to get the boot from member institutions(Of NCAA membership)

 

[phgreek]

2/3 vote to get the boot from member institutions(Of NCAA membership)

Thanks...see and I think at least 2/3 would have voted to have them booted.

 

[NDhoosier]

IT will even out next year ytou know that right? 76 this year so only 74 next.

I would have rather them stay at 75 like they were suppose to instead of loading up in one year and "sacrificing" one schollie next year.