Mike Elko - Defensive Coordinator

[loomis41973]

Amazing the amount of head coaches, OC's, DC's, players...etc....who don't want to play school.

 

[irish4ever]

I wish that was my feeling. The more I think about it, the more I think ND fucked themselves. Finally had a very good DC who could recruit. Any fan of ND knows that is a rare commodity. Other than Diaco’s first couple of years it’s been a steady stream of medicocre DCs.

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True, but Elko was NOT going to be at ND more than 3 yrs. anyway IF the Defense improved each year like it did this yr. from the previous. The only way Elko would have remained at ND in the long term was to get promoted to HC in that 3 yr. time period.

 

[Irish#1]

This thread is becoming full of National Enquirer journalist.

Agree.............Everyone has today to get over this, then move on. We'll survive.

 

[stlnd01]

Amazing the amount of head coaches, OC's, DC's, players...etc....who don't want to play school.

Something to remember when we bitch about Brian Kelly. He has never once complained (publicly) about the academic expectations at Notre Dame. In general he embraces them.

 

[NDohio]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff

On the reason he came to Texas A&M...

"I just think it was the excitement of what was going on down here. I think a chance to come down here and win a national championship and compete in the SEC in the best division in the country – just a lot of excitement down here."

So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

 

[NorthDakota]

Something to remember when we bitch about Brian Kelly. He has never once complained (publicly) about the academic expectations at Notre Dame. In general he embraces them.

It would bee very difficult to not say something.

 

[NDRock]

It would bee very difficult to not say something.

Hard to complain when you’re 2-6 vs. Stanford.

 

[Blaise]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff



So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

I feel he is saying the right thing for their fan base.. He can't say "I chased the money"

Pretty sure he said the same things last year when he came to us

 

[BeauBenken]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff



So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

Pretty sure he said similar things when he came to ND.

 

[IrishLax]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff



So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

It's called coach speak. No coach has EVER said "I came here for the $$" when asked why they went somewhere, even though $$ and stability are the primary drivers 99% of the time.

 

[NDRock]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff



So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

Either we didn’t pony up the money to pay our top notch defensive coordinator or he thinks we do not have a good chance to win a championship. They both seem related to me and speak volumes on the Administration’s desire to be elite.

 

[IrishLion]

It's called coach speak. No coach has EVER said "I came here for the $$" when asked why they went somewhere, even though $$ and stability are the primary drivers 99% of the time.

Yup. He knows he's on stable footing at A&M for as long as it takes for a HC opportunity to come up for him, if that's what he wants.

Otherwise, he knows he's on stable footing for at least the next 6 years, unless things go terribly wrong for Jimbo.

With BK heading into year 9, there's not any guarantee at ND beyond '18, really.

 

[irishff1014]

He chased the money he knows that, we know that and they know that. Fact of life if you don't believe not sure what to tell you.

 

[NDohio]

I get that this is coach speak and to not take it literally. I just find it interesting that he used the national championship wording. I mean, of course he used it coming here 'cause the opportunity of winning a natti at ND truly is greater than at Wake. So is that the same going from ND to TAMU in his mind?

 

[Bishop2b5]

I get that this is coach speak and to not take it literally. I just find it interesting that he used the national championship wording. I mean, of course he used it coming here 'cause the opportunity of winning a natti at ND truly is greater than at Wake. So is that the same going from ND to TAMU in his mind?

I doubt it. ND is much more likely to win an NC than A&M is. OTOH, A&M is willing to throw a LOT of money around to see. They certainly think they're elite (nobody else in the SEC does) and that with the right coach they'll be The University of Alabama - College Station. Can't blame Elko for taking the huge raise, but he won't win a NC there and surely he knows that.

 

[BobbyMac]

It's a resume builder.

He did 10 years of Eastcoast FCS, 4 years of MAC, 3 years at Wake, a year at ND, he'll do 2 years at aTm and he'll get a HC job. aTm checks the two biggest boxes left, the SEC and puts him in the biggest football producer.

He now gets to skip the G5 jobs and Kansas. His resume is bulletproof if he looks good at aTm.

 

[dublinirish]

It's a resume builder.

He did 10 years of Eastcoast FCS, 4 years of MAC, 3 years at Wake, a year at ND, he'll do 2 years at aTm and he'll get a HC job. aTm checks the two biggest boxes left, the SEC and puts him in the biggest football producer.

He now gets to skip the G5 jobs and Kansas. His resume is bulletproof if he looks good at aTm.

if he gets along and bends the knee to the texas HS coaches he could do very well at A+M. For some reason I just don't see those guys taking a liking to Jimbo though, be interesting to see how he handles that.

 

[Rizzophil]

He won’t be there for more than 2 years

Takes the sting out of it if you see it that way

 

[Kingbish01]

It's a resume builder.

He did 10 years of Eastcoast FCS, 4 years of MAC, 3 years at Wake, a year at ND, he'll do 2 years at aTm and he'll get a HC job. aTm checks the two biggest boxes left, the SEC and puts him in the biggest football producer.

He now gets to skip the G5 jobs and Kansas. His resume is bulletproof if he looks good at aTm.

I'm not sure what HC gig he will get especially if he only stays 2 or 3 at A&M. He will have done an okay job if they finish 4th in the SEC W, and a good job if they finish 3rd. A&M will not be better than Bama or AUB over the next 3 years, I'd be willing to bet my house on it. IMO he still ends up at Kansas, or some other smallish school to start.

 

[ThePiombino]

He won’t be there for more than 2 years

Takes the sting out of it if you see it that way

No it doesn't. The sting isn't the fact that he won't spend his last year or two before becoming a HC here. It's the fact that our team has taken yet another step back after finally showing some serious progress, both as a program and defensively. It's the fact that recruiting will almost definitely be impacted, and not for the better. It's the fact that these players are potentially looking at having a 4th DC in 3 years, and possibly a 3rd scheme.

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[BobbyMac]

No it doesn't. The sting isn't the fact that he won't spend his last year or two before becoming a HC here. It's the fact that our team has taken yet another step back after finally showing some serious progress, both as a program and defensively. It's the fact that recruiting will almost definitely be impacted, and not for the better. It's the fact that these players are potentially looking at having a 4th DC in 3 years, and possibly a 3rd scheme.

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That's not a fact at this time. As of now, all it's created is uncertainty.

Someday you may use the names Elko and Pipp synonymously.

 

[irish4ever]

It's a resume builder.

He did 10 years of Eastcoast FCS, 4 years of MAC, 3 years at Wake, a year at ND, he'll do 2 years at aTm and he'll get a HC job. aTm checks the two biggest boxes left, the SEC and puts him in the biggest football producer.

He now gets to skip the G5 jobs and Kansas. His resume is bulletproof if he looks good at aTm.

Muck Fike Elko!!!

 

[ulukinatme]

I'm not sure what HC gig he will get especially if he only stays 2 or 3 at A&M. He will have done an okay job if they finish 4th in the SEC W, and a good job if they finish 3rd. A&M will not be better than Bama or AUB over the next 3 years, I'd be willing to bet my house on it. IMO he still ends up at Kansas, or some other smallish school to start.

IMO if he's looking for a HC job, I would think he stood a better chance staying Irish. Next season's schedule for us isn't great, but A&M's ain't great either. They've got Clemson, they're at Alabama, at Auburn, and the rest of their SEC West slate which is up and down. The fact remains they are unlikely to ever win their division because they're not getting past Alabama save for maybe a fluke Johnny Football moment, and after that impossible hurdle they still have Auburn/LSU/Mississippi State. Most years A&M won't be better than any one of those 3, let alone top them all each year. So short term he's making more money, but I can't see this helping his resume more than if he had stayed another year and tried for a HC position.

 

[BobbyMac]

Muck Fike Elko!!!

Nuck Fotre Dame's admin for not being the highest paying program in the country.

 

[ulukinatme]

Here's a tough choice...given only two possible options: Elko stays for the bowl game as he did and helps us beat LSU to get to 10 wins, or Elko leaves early allowing us more time to find a replacement (And we probably lose to LSU), which option do you take?

 

[Kingbish01]

IMO if he's looking for a HC job, I would think he stood a better chance staying Irish. Next season's schedule for us isn't great, but A&M's ain't great either. They've got Clemson, they're at Alabama, at Auburn, and the rest of their SEC West slate which is up and down. The fact remains they are unlikely to ever win their division because they're not getting past Alabama save for maybe a fluke Johnny Football moment, and after that impossible hurdle they still have Auburn/LSU/Mississippi State. Most years A&M won't be better than any one of those 3, let alone top them all each year. So short term he's making more money, but I can't see this helping his resume more than if he had stayed another year and tried for a HC position.

Couldn't agree more with your post. If Elko stuck around and ND won 10 games next year and the year after, AND they were being talked about most of the year as a playoff team his resume would be stronger IMO. He sold out for the money now, but I think in 6 years he will be making 800k somewhere and not 2 Mil+ as a head coach because of this decision.

 

[NDRock]

Couldn't agree more with your post. If Elko stuck around and ND won 10 games next year and the year after, AND they were being talked about most of the year as a playoff team his resume would be stronger IMO. He sold out for the money now, but I think in 6 years he will be making 800k somewhere and not 2 Mil+ as a head coach because of this decision.

On the flip side, we’re an 8-4 season away from ND firing Brian Kelly. Between the schedule next year and the questions on offense, it’s not a stretch to see that happening, even with the D playing very well.

 

[irish4ever]

Here's a tough choice...given only two possible options: Elko stays for the bowl game as he did and helps us beat LSU to get to 10 wins, or Elko leaves early allowing us more time to find a replacement (And we probably lose to LSU), which option do you take?

Gotta take the win! Plus, it's good that he didn't jump ship until AFTER early signing period ... may have a defensive decomit or two otherwise. I guess we'll never know that though.

 

[Luckylucci]

https://texags.com/s/26649/watch-dc-mike-elko-arrives-in-aggieland-talks-about-joining-am-staff



So, just curious about this quote. Is he saying that there was no chance of winning a National Championship at ND?

Like others have said, it was about the money and stability. He said the same exact thing when he came to ND. The difference that time was, it was actually true to a degree, since he had no chance of winning one at Wake Forest. Now it's completely irrelevant and is a cover for, "I wanted more money".

 

[Luckylucci]

Here's a tough choice...given only two possible options: Elko stays for the bowl game as he did and helps us beat LSU to get to 10 wins, or Elko leaves early allowing us more time to find a replacement (And we probably lose to LSU), which option do you take?

Certainly Stay and take the Win. No chance that I want this happening before the ESP. That would've been a disaster, IMO.

Also, there hasn't been much change to the DC landscape during that time. I guess Grinch going to OSU could've been an option. To some degree, Leavitt signing for 1.7MM changed the landscape. That helped set this standard of what DC's should be paid. So the more guys you add to that 1.7MM+ group, the more Elko feels entitled to that type of money.