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There were lots of accusations that he lied to his players and then bolted (before the Sugar Bowl with an undefeated Cincy team). Gilyard was particularly vocal about it.

It seems pretty par for the course to me. Coaches do it a lot. Crappy, but it's the trend.

Brian Kelly Packs Up Bag of Lies and Moves To Notre Dame | Bleacher Report

Haha... the old school Bleacher Report... their articles were fun back then. Also how they got the rap they're trying to live down to this day. "Notre Dame tampers"... how? Huh? What? That whole "article" is a hit piece with very little substance... even the two quotes aren't damning. So ignoring the article for a second, let's talk about Kelly's acrimonious exit from Cinci. He pissed off a LOT of people.

Gilyard was PISSED. A lot of his players were pissed. He was leaving before the biggest bowl game for Cincinnati ever. But he handled things completely different from Franklin. He never made "never leaving, no matter what" + tears things. The quote to Pyke was before Weis had even been fired and was hardly declarative. Gilyard later backtracked on the radio on a number of his statements after emotions died down... saying Brian Kelly was an "OK guy" and that he "pushed them to better" and he "understands that it's a business" and that he "didn't really lie to them and was willing to tell them face to face."

Franklin didn't tell his players before bolting, Kelly faced them man to man. Kelly went through the whole awards banquet with them and then got up in front of everybody and told them the news. Kelly planned for them to hear the news first in person from him at the banquet that day. Unfortunately, people tried to scoop the news hours before he told them. The first people to hear it officially though from either side were his players. Contrast that with Franklin.

Coaches leaving and people being pissed is commonplace in CFB. It's unavoidable for anyone moving up the food chain. But no one should try to equate Franklin bolting without a word to anyone after crying and swearing that no matter what he wasn't going anywhere (while actively pursuing NUMEROUS jobs)... to Kelly telling people he loved it in Cinci, giving boiler plate "I'm not looking to leave" statements, and then getting up in front of a roomful of his players/families/peers and making the official announcement in person. Night and day.
 

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Hahahaha Hogan. I was thinking of a big-time Vandy poster from another board. My bad!!!
 

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I may be mistaken but doesn't Todd Graham set the bar for the most acrimonious exit? IIRC, he just texted his Pitt players while en route to his new gig at Arizona State. Perhaps someone can recall better than I can. Rich Rod's departure from West Virginia for Michigan was another ugly exit.
 

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I may be mistaken but doesn't Todd Graham set the bar for the most acrimonious exit? IIRC, he just texted his Pitt players while en route to his new gig at Arizona State. Perhaps someone can recall better than I can. Rich Rod's departure from West Virginia for Michigan was another ugly exit.

I feel like there was a story with Rich rod literally burning documents on his way out of town.
 

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Wasn't Tubbs supposedly out to dinner with a Texas Tech recruit when he accepted the Cincinnati job, leaving the recruit at dinner?
 

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The model of ethical behavior himself, Petrino, had a couple of doozies-- the clandestine meeting with Auburn when he was coaching UofL and Auburn was trying to get rid of Tubbs. And then his leaving of the Falcons, mid-season, where I don't think he told anybody. He just got on a plane to go to Arkansas, then texted/called Arthur Blank.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PennState?src=hash">#PennState</a> Could sanctions kill the momentum that James Franklin has built through good recruiting? <a href="http://t.co/koFMbe8Rsb">http://t.co/koFMbe8Rsb</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/statuses/490255143511031808">July 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PennState?src=hash">#PennState</a> Could sanctions kill the momentum that James Franklin has built through good recruiting? <a href="http://t.co/koFMbe8Rsb">http://t.co/koFMbe8Rsb</a></p>— Rivals.com (@Rivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/Rivals/statuses/490255143511031808">July 18, 2014</a></blockquote>
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I hope so, but their weak schedule helps a lot.
 

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@McMurphyESPN: James Franklin on opening vs. UCF in Ireland: “When I took the job, when they said Dublin, I thought they meant Ohio"

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Haven't kept up with the alleged rape and alleged coverup at Vandy that happened during Franklin's time there. If some of the reports are true about Franklin's involvement, it could get pretty ugly for him.
 

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And no mention of this story or Franklin's connection in the Harrisburg news today. Interesting.
 

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Shots fired from Narduzzi
Pitt football notebook: Narduzzi takes jab at Penn State | Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Pitt and Penn State won’t resume their rivalry on the football field until September, but that didn't stop Panthers coach Pat Narduzzi from taking a subtle shot toward State College.

When asked Monday at his weekly news conference whether Pitt quarterback Nate Peterman’s accuracy this season has been a product of his play or the staff’s play calling, Narduzzi said it was a combination of both and added a little jab at the end.

“You could have a talented quarterback with a bad play-caller and make him look bad,” Narduzzi said. “You see that around the country, some closer than others.”

It’s not a stretch to say Narduzzi likely was referring to Nittany Lions coach James Franklin, offensive coordinator and play-caller John Donovan and quarterback Christian Hackenberg, who has struggled this season despite being projected as one of the top quarterbacks available in next year’s NFL draft.
 

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Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio deny anti-Penn State recruiting tactics

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got a DM from father of a 4* prospect. “We’ve visited (OSU, UM, MSU and PSU) - the ONLY person that negatively recruited was Franklin."</p>— Jeremy Birmingham (@Birm) <a href="https://twitter.com/Birm/status/757954348131442688">July 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Urban Meyer, Mark Dantonio deny anti-Penn State recruiting tactics

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just got a DM from father of a 4* prospect. “We’ve visited (OSU, UM, MSU and PSU) - the ONLY person that negatively recruited was Franklin."</p>— Jeremy Birmingham (@Birm) <a href="https://twitter.com/Birm/status/757954348131442688">July 26, 2016</a></blockquote>
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I would negatively recruit too if the only thing my school was known for was raping little boys and covering it up.
 

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Well when you're a bad coach...

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Franklin has always been that way. Total fraud and piece of shit. He said some absurd stuff at Vandy that always really bothered me, as well as his alleged rape case tampering.

That PSU would hire him and that they would fail would be very fitting. Of course kids are going to have "tough questions" when your institution covered up SERIAL CHILD RAPE for decades.

EDIT: Franklin just tried to clarify...
"All I said was that every kid that we're recruiting is also being recruited by Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State and Notre Dame and that they don't have the same challenges that we have now," Franklin said. "Then, in a separate quote, I mentioned that right now we're (dealing) with negative recruiting. It was two separate quotes, though, over a 35-minute interview.

"I never said that any of those schools are the ones doing the negative recruiting against us. They're not. There is one other particular school, but I didn't name who that was."

But he's a liar because his initial quote clearly says:
What makes it tricky, they're not having to deal with some of the things we're dealing with and working through, which magnifies it. Those programs as well as others know that and use that against us. We have that conversation with every single prospect. We don't usually initiate it, but it's coming from somewhere.

Guy is a total clown.
 
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