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kmoose

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I just didn't think it wasn't the right place for the statement.

A poster comes on and asks for prayers and explains a situation that is very close to one of his family members. IMO this thread should be about offering support/prayer.

I am sorry I even commented other than to offer my prayers to Wingman and his family...

It's NOT "very close" to his family. And I offered my prayers. Pull the stick out of your rectum. All I did was try to get people to remember Christianity's own roots, before they pick up their torches and pitchforks against Islam.
 

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I'm not sure what's sillier, killing people because god told you to, or going to a place as a missionary where said lunatics are because your god told you to.

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Why is an enlightened sir like yourself slumming it here with all the sheeple? /r/atheism is that way.
 
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If this was a family member I'd just keep quiet, go shave my neckbeard and get on with my day. But this is like Lax's argument with military deaths in Iraq yesterday: these people signed up to go preach in an area of the world where Christians are being butchered..what did you think was going to happen? Sorry for pointing out that context.
 

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I will absolutely pray for those affected by the atrocities. But I think we would be intellectually dishonest to forget about the atrocities that Christians took part in, during the Crusades. What I pray for, mostly, is that the Muslim world realizes that these radicals are simply repeating the horrible mistakes that Christians have already made, and put an end to it sooner rather than later.

Your lack of knowledge is obvious. The crusades were very barbaric but it was in response to what was happening with Muslim invasion of Eastern Europe, Greece, Spain, the holy land, and North Africa. Also Christians were in the Middle East 600 years before Muslims. Please pick up a book and read it.
 

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It's NOT "very close" to his family. And I offered my prayers. Pull the stick out of your rectum. All I did was try to get people to remember Christianity's own roots, before they pick up their torches and pitchforks against Islam.


I wouldn't have appreciated that getting started either.


What would be so hard about simply offering prayer and positive thoughts and leave it at that?
 
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I could be wrong but it appears some are getting history wrong.
 

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Your lack of knowledge is obvious. The crusades were very barbaric but it was in response to what was happening with Muslim invasion of Eastern Europe, Greece, Spain, the holy land, and North Africa. Also Christians were in the Middle East 600 years before Muslims. Please pick up a book and read it.

I stay out of the political, cop killer, killer cop, religion, race stuff threads on purpose. Didn't think I was opening one that said "prayer request". Anyway, what bugs me is that we treat each other like shat sometimes and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't say the things we say if the other person was sitting across from us. I mean, if you were sitting across from Kmoose woud you really say "Pick up a book and read it"? People don't say "Your lack of knowledge is obvious" to each other...unless they don't have to look at them. You seem to be an internet tough guy who happened to take a course or two on the topic. I would say that to your face. We need to be more respectful of each other...most importantly when we disagree.
 

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...dude, guy asked for a prayer, and you insult those we come here to pray for...thats a special level of dickheadedness. What the hell is your problem?

I get it, belief in god is not your thing...good for you. This is not a politics thread, and the tinniest shred of common decency and decorum would tell you this is not the place for your compulsion to attack faith and the faithful...be gone.

and BTW...The comparison you make is beyond excusable...WTF is wrong with you?

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I stay out of the political, cop killer, killer cop, religion, race stuff threads on purpose. Didn't think I was opening one that said "prayer request". Anyway, what bugs me is that we treat each other like shat sometimes and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't say the things we say if the other person was sitting across from us. I mean, if you were sitting across from Kmoose woud you really say "Pick up a book and read it"? People don't say "Your lack of knowledge is obvious" to each other...unless they don't have to look at them. You seem to be an internet tough guy who happened to take a course or two on the topic. I would say that to your face. We need to be more respectful of each other...most importantly when we disagree.

"You think your tough on the internet? No, I'm tough on the internet and I'd say it to your face."

A bunch of asshats coming in here to post. I'm really somewhat taken aback that we can have specific threads for specific topics unrelated to anything besides a GD prayer request and it still turns into a: "God is dumb and so are believers who have conviction to do things" or "yeah, but remember all the terrible things Christians have done so....perspective."

as another poster said, this is a special level of dickheadedness.
 

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I think the guy was just affected by visualizing a parent witnessing their child getting butchered in front of them and not being able to do anything about it. We just love to complicate things with our special, little, unique opinions (myself included).

As a parent it physically affects me to think of those people and how devastating that must be.

Prayers for them, you jackwagons and everyone else in that hell on earth.
 

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I think the guy was just affected by visualizing a parent witnessing their child getting butchered in front of them and not being able to do anything about it. We just love to complicate things with our special, little, unique opinions (myself included).

As a parent it physically affects me to think of those people and how devastating that must be.

Prayers for them, you jackwagons and everyone else in that hell on earth.

You do realize that incidents like this have been happening regularly in places like Syria with ISIS, and with Al-Qaeda before that right? Doesn't mean you can't feel for it and have strong feelings about it. Nobody has said that. It's just disingenuous to act like this is an isolated incident that requires specific prayers. Nor is it this personal situation that someone on the board is dealing with on distinct level. The OP heard about it and tried to personize it and now everyone is butthurt when other posters talk broadly about the subject. This isn't even a specific incident being reported. It's a third, maybe fourth hand account of "what's happening" over there.

If you all want to pray for every specific atrocity that happens in the world, you may want to invest in some knee pads. It doesn't make others heretics to speak broadly about the subject, especially on a football forum (regardless of what section its posted in).
 
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"You think your tough on the internet? No, I'm tough on the internet and I'd say it to your face."

A bunch of asshats coming in here to post. I'm really somewhat taken aback that we can have specific threads for specific topics unrelated to anything besides a GD prayer request and it still turns into a: "God is dumb and so are believers who have conviction to do things" or "yeah, but remember all the terrible things Christians have done so....perspective."

as another poster said, this is a special level of dickheadedness.

I should probably clarify, although I thought I already had:

My comment about Christianity's history was in direct response to a couple of comments about "wipe them off the face of the earth", and the characterization of "monsters". I simply wanted people to not take the easy route and start bashing Muslims as a whole, or Islam as a whole. I'm guessing that didn't come across as obviously as it sounded in my head when I was writing it. It was never meant to suggest that we should not condemn the atrocities, or that the victims of the atrocities are not worthy of our prayers or sympathy. I'm sorry if it sounded like that.
 

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You do realize that incidents like this have been happening regularly in places like Syria with ISIS, and with Al-Qaeda before that right? Doesn't mean you can't feel for it and have strong feelings about it. Nobody has said that. It's just disingenuous to act like this is an isolated incident that requires specific prayers. Nor is it this personal situation that someone on the board is dealing with on distinct level. The OP heard about it and tried to personize it and now everyone is butthurt when other posters talk broadly about the subject. This isn't even a specific incident being reported. It's a third, maybe fourth hand account of "what's happening" over there.

If you all want to pray for every specific atrocity that happens in the world, you may want to invest in some knee pads. It doesn't make others heretics to speak broadly about the subject, especially on a football forum (regardless of what section its posted in).

Who are you to tell someone what to personalize and what not to personalize? And who are you to say what needs prayers or doesn't?

Dude asked for some prayers for some people. Don't like it? Don't open the thread.

People are butthurt because someone asked for some prayers then others had to come in and act like complete assholes for no reason.
 

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I'm not trying to offend you, man. But let's be honest with each other here. Your wife and her sister (it was her friend in the first post, but I digress) do mission work in a country with ISIS in it. Here are my points.

- First, good on her. They are fighting the good fight. No one is trying to discredit their work.
- They weren't there at the time of this incident nor directly effected.
- ISIS commits horrendous atrocities daily in Syria, they are not all "personal" to you. At least not to the point where people should be offended by rational discussion that you brought as a topic, to a football board.

Again... no offense, it's just the reality. It doesn't take anything away from the good work your wife does.

You're demonstrating a serious reading comprehension problem in this thread. In the O.P. he wrote:

My wife is from Ukraine and her sister is very much involved with missions. Two days ago, she received word from Ukrainian Missionaries in Syria that ISIS had taken another town, had rounded up all the Christians, and were killing the children who would not renounce their faith in Jesus. They werent killing the parents, just the kids, but were doing it in front of the parents.

His wife is from Ukraine. Her sister "received word from received word from Ukrainian Missionaries in Syria". I underlined that phrase and highlighted it as you are barking at the wrong tree. He didn't state his wife was in Syria, or her sister. He didn't ask for prayers for his wife, his sister, or even the Ukranian Missionaries who he noted were in Syria. He simply asked for prayers for the children being murdered.



Your rants are embarassing yourself with each post getting angrier and more obtuse than the former.

"It doesn't make other heretics ..." That added so much to the dialog.
 

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You do realize that incidents like this have been happening regularly in places like Syria with ISIS, and with Al-Qaeda before that right? Doesn't mean you can't feel for it and have strong feelings about it. Nobody has said that. It's just disingenuous to act like this is an isolated incident that requires specific prayers. Nor is it this personal situation that someone on the board is dealing with on distinct level. The OP heard about it and tried to personize it and now everyone is butthurt when other posters talk broadly about the subject. This isn't even a specific incident being reported. It's a third, maybe fourth hand account of "what's happening" over there.

If you all want to pray for every specific atrocity that happens in the world, you may want to invest in some knee pads. It doesn't make others heretics to speak broadly about the subject, especially on a football forum (regardless of what section its posted in).

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I should probably clarify, although I thought I already had:

My comment about Christianity's history was in direct response to a couple of comments about "wipe them off the face of the earth", and the characterization of "monsters". I simply wanted people to not take the easy route and start bashing Muslims as a whole, or Islam as a whole. I'm guessing that didn't come across as obviously as it sounded in my head when I was writing it. It was never meant to suggest that we should not condemn the atrocities, or that the victims of the atrocities are not worthy of our prayers or sympathy. I'm sorry if it sounded like that.

Understood Kmoose and I appreciate your reply. He didn't bash all Muslims if I read the original post correctly. He called those people killing children in front of their parents, ISIS, monsters and he said they should be wiped off the face of the earth. I agree with him as I think most reasonable people would considering ISIS themselves have gone on the record stating they want outright world domination and to establish a worldwide caliphate.
 
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