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irishfan · Sep 6, 2013

BleedBlueGold said:
New Intel: ISD Intel

Anyone have an update for us cheapos?

Emcee77 · Sep 6, 2013

kuehnja said:
BK has done much better than Weis of getting speed on the field.

Remember opening game of 2008, when Theo was returning the opening kick and Tom Hammond said that Weis had said #32 was the fastest player on the team?

That guy ran a 4.66 at the combine. We've come a long ways in the speed category to say the least.

Ha, yeah, I've never understood this. All anyone talked about when Theo was coming in was how fast he was. He got caught from behind occasionally last year. Not sure if cumulative effect of injuries during his college career affected his top-end speed or what, but he was not as fast as advertised. Still a great player though, certainly don't intend to knock the guy.

ScooterIrish · Sep 6, 2013

Emcee77 said:
Ha, yeah, I've never understood this. All anyone talked about when Theo was coming in was how fast he was. He got caught from behind occasionally last year. Not sure if cumulative effect of injuries during his college career affected his top-end speed or what, but he was not as fast as advertised. Still a great player though, certainly don't intend to knock the guy.

I probably need to revisit his thread, but when he was being recruited I remember people talking about how shifty he was on the Irish Eyes board rather than speed...which he was shifty.

RuntheBall · Sep 6, 2013

ScooterIrish said:
I probably need to revisit his thread, but when he was being recruited I remember people talking about how shifty he was on the Irish Eyes board rather than speed...which he was shifty.

quicker than fast...?

IrishLax · Sep 6, 2013

irishfan said:
Anyone have an update for us cheapos?

Yeah I'll get around to it soon...

irishfan · Sep 6, 2013

IrishLax said:
Yeah I'll get around to it soon...

Thanks ahead of time. Much appreciated.

IrishLax · Sep 6, 2013

Alrighty:

-Lack of contract extension was being used against Kelly on the trail, the announcement of an extension helps and they believe a big buyout clause was put in making it extremely difficult for anyone to poach him without just ungodly truckloads of money.
-Seems like we're back in it with Andrew Williams. He's planning on being in South Bend for Michigan State. I'm still a bit skeptical of his overall interest, but we'll see what happens.
-Not much else... WR board is trimmed to Lazard, McKenzie, Erik Brown, and Quick. We're probably looking to take 2 more, but at least 1. None of those guys are locks but I like our chances with Quick and McKenzie (if he gets his academic house in order, and he has a lot to do).

ryno 24 · Sep 6, 2013

Anything on the current team?

Thanks for the update.

IrishLax · Sep 6, 2013

ryno 24 said:
Anything on the current team?

Thanks for the update.

Yeah, said talking to "source" (this usually means coach) the key to winning will be the OL keeping Tommy clean in the pocket and us being able to run it when needed (3rd and short/in the red zone). Michigan runs the most exotic blitz packages we'll see all year and that can confuse the OL and lead to problems if Tommy doesn't recognize or there is an assignment breakdown on the OL. The running thing is pretty darn obvious.

Luckylucci · Sep 6, 2013

IrishLax said:
Alrighty:

-Lack of contract extension was being used against Kelly on the trail, the announcement of an extension helps and they believe a big buyout clause was put in making it extremely difficult for anyone to poach him without just ungodly truckloads of money.
-Seems like we're back in it with Andrew Williams. He's planning on being in South Bend for Michigan State. I'm still a bit skeptical of his overall interest, but we'll see what happens.
-Not much else... WR board is trimmed to Lazard, McKenzie, Erik Brown, and Quick. We're probably looking to take 2 more, but at least 1. None of those guys are locks but I like our chances with Quick and McKenzie (if he gets his academic house in order, and he has a lot to do).

-Agreed, if he makes that visit then I'll start to get back into his recruitment but until he actually shows up I'm not going to read too much into it.

-I really like this decision. We have a lot of young talent at WR and with Brent on board already I'd like them to use it at another position. I think we go McKenzie/Quick.

Thanks for the update Lax.

ryno 24 · Sep 6, 2013

Just to let you know you are more of a boss than rick ross

STLDomer · Sep 13, 2013

“@ISDUpdate: Also, several quick recruiting updates, including one current #ND pledge who is expected to be on a visit elsewhere this weekend...”

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Ironman8 · Sep 13, 2013

STLDomer said:
“@ISDUpdate: Also, several quick recruiting updates, including one current #ND pledge who is expected to be on a visit elsewhere this weekend...”

.........

Tillery will be at Bama v. A&M.

yankeeND · Sep 13, 2013

Ironman8 said:
Tillery will be at Bama v. A&M.

I am not really sure that is cause for alarm but, if I was a big-time recruit I would damn sure want to be at that game.

Ironman8 · Sep 13, 2013

yankeeND said:
I am not really sure that is cause for alarm but, if I was a big-time recruit I would damn sure want to be at that game.

Christian on ISD doesn't think it is a concern, he thinks it is exactly that - a chance to go to the biggest game of the year and he is taking it. I'd do the same thing.

Irish Houstonian · Sep 13, 2013

Well the market value of attendence alone starts at $750. I'd be concerned if he didn't take it.

arrowryan · Sep 13, 2013

yankeeND said:
I am not really sure that is cause for alarm but, if I was a big-time recruit I would damn sure want to be at that game.

Ironman8 said:
Christian on ISD doesn't think it is a concern, he thinks it is exactly that - a chance to go to the biggest game of the year and he is taking it. I'd do the same thing.

We sound like the ISU fans when they said they weren't worried when Lazard planned a bunch of visits to elite schools.

I'm not worried either though

Luckylucci · Sep 13, 2013

His mom became a member of II. Mom, dad, and son are life long Irish fans. Anything can happen in recruiting but I agree he's not looking around.

Rizzophil · Sep 20, 2013

New Intel is up!

IrishLax · Sep 20, 2013

-Important weekend for recruiting (duh)
-Tranquil very well may have a final decision by next week. This visit is the last hurrah for ND.
-Lots of '15 notes. Meh.
-ISD thinks we would have no trouble getting in with Ballage if we want him.
-For Scarborough, we almost got him on campus for this weekend. ISD thinks Florida will be really stiff competition for him. They said he's probably the only player left on the board who could be an upgrade over Hood.
-Not optimistic on Lazard. They think it will take a coaching change or sanctions for him to flip. Still, he's going to take all of his OVs.
-Still confident that ND is clear leader for McKenzie. Pushing back date has nothing to do with any changes to that. He has yet to have taken the SAT and will do so next month.
-Byrne and Martini will play for Team USA against Team Canada in February.

-Onto the game, this one is obviously important.
-Protecting the football is priority #1. "Sources" expect the D to be able to shut MSU down. The coaches are happy winning 3-0 if that's what it comes to. Personally, I think this is a horrible idea and we need to air the ball out.
-They expect a lot of pressures to be brought on 3rd down and keeping Tommy clean is the second most important thing in this game to protecting the ball.

Sherm Sticky · Sep 20, 2013

IrishLax said:
-Important weekend for recruiting (duh)
-Tranquil very well may have a final decision by next week. This visit is the last hurrah for ND.
-Lots of '15 notes. Meh.
-ISD thinks we would have no trouble getting in with Ballage if we want him.
-For Scarborough, we almost got him on campus for this weekend. ISD thinks Florida will be really stiff competition for him. They said he's probably the only player left on the board who could be an upgrade over Hood.
-Not optimistic on Lazard. They think it will take a coaching change or sanctions for him to flip. Still, he's going to take all of his OVs.
-Still confident that ND is clear leader for McKenzie. Pushing back date has nothing to do with any changes to that. He has yet to have taken the SAT and will do so next month.
-Byrne and Martini will play for Team USA against Team Canada in February.

-Onto the game, this one is obviously important.
-Protecting the football is priority #1. "Sources" expect the D to be able to shut MSU down. The coaches are happy winning 3-0 if that's what it comes to. Personally, I think this is a horrible idea and we need to air the ball out.
-They expect a lot of pressures to be brought on 3rd down and keeping Tommy clean is the second most important thing in this game to protecting the ball.

They kind of go hand in hand.

Emcee77 · Sep 20, 2013

IrishLax said:
-Important weekend for recruiting (duh)
-Tranquil very well may have a final decision by next week. This visit is the last hurrah for ND.
-Lots of '15 notes. Meh.
-ISD thinks we would have no trouble getting in with Ballage if we want him.
-For Scarborough, we almost got him on campus for this weekend. ISD thinks Florida will be really stiff competition for him. They said he's probably the only player left on the board who could be an upgrade over Hood.
-Not optimistic on Lazard. They think it will take a coaching change or sanctions for him to flip. Still, he's going to take all of his OVs.
-Still confident that ND is clear leader for McKenzie. Pushing back date has nothing to do with any changes to that. He has yet to have taken the SAT and will do so next month.
-Byrne and Martini will play for Team USA against Team Canada in February.

Omg he hasn't taken the SAT yet? So that's the academic issue? And there's no reason to think he won't get a qualifying score? That's great. I'm not impressed with his planning skills, but as long as his test-taking skills are up to par, no issue.

NDdomer2 · Sep 20, 2013

Emcee77 said:
Omg he hasn't taken the SAT yet? So that's the academic issue? And there's no reason to think he won't get a qualifying score? That's great. I'm not impressed with his planning skills, but as long as his test-taking skills are up to par, no issue.

I was just wondering about this too. Sounds (this is me assuming) that his grades aren't a problem, just need some test scores.

He didn't leave himself much time but if it is truly "pass and in" then I'll take that over missing courses.

IrishLax · Sep 20, 2013

NDdomer2 said:
I was just wondering about this too. Sounds (this is me assuming) that his grades aren't a problem, just need some test scores.

He didn't leave himself much time but if it is truly "pass and in" then I'll take that over missing courses.

That would be an incorrect assumption.

Emcee77 · Sep 20, 2013

Aw crap.

IrishLax · Sep 20, 2013

Emcee77 said:
Omg he hasn't taken the SAT yet? So that's the academic issue? And there's no reason to think he won't get a qualifying score? That's great. I'm not impressed with his planning skills, but as long as his test-taking skills are up to par, no issue.

No, there's a lot more than that. But him getting the SAT done and getting a good score would certainly go a long way.

NDdomer2 · Sep 20, 2013

IrishLax said:
That would be an incorrect assumption.

well then im back to not caring.

irishfan · Sep 27, 2013

Any Intel today?

IrishLax · Sep 27, 2013

irishfan said:
Any Intel today?

Yeah, and it's pretty solid. I'll post recap when I get home.

NDdomer2 · Sep 28, 2013

did lax get home?

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