General team info

[Luckylucci]

Calling it the best indoor practice facility in the country certainly gets my attention. Hopefully it lives up to that hype.

 

[NDohio]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">ESPN FPI’s teams with the best chance to go undefeated:<br><br>1. Clemson (19.2%)<br>2. Alabama (10.1%)<br>3. Notre Dame (10.0%)<br>4. Georgia (9.7%)<br>5. Washington (7.3%)<br>6. Ohio State (6.6%)<br>7. Oklahoma (6.4%)<br>8. Penn State (3.0%)<br>9. Michigan State (2.2%)<br>10. Miami (1.2%)</p>— CFB Now (@CFBNW) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBNW/status/988224588839571456?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hmmm...

 

[Luckylucci]

Yea, the FPI is very bullish on ND for the upcoming season.

 

[IrishLion]

Yea, the FPI is very bullish on ND for the upcoming season.

Until the new season is 3 or 4 weeks old, FPI is heavily influenced by the previous season + returning production.

A team that won ten games and returns a QB that scored 30 TD's, and also has a bunch of returning starters on defense, is going to project very well.

Whether that projection is accurate or not after 3 or 4 weeks of new evidence largely rests with Wimbush completing a higher percentage of throws.

 

[Luckylucci]

Until the new season is 3 or 4 weeks old, FPI is heavily influenced by the previous season + returning production.

A team that won ten games and returns a QB that scored 30 TD's, and also has a bunch of returning starters on defense, is going to project very well.

Whether that projection is accurate or not after 3 or 4 weeks of new evidence largely rests with Wimbush completing a higher percentage of throws.

Yep, and they are giving us A LOT of credit for our returning production on defense.

 

[IrishLion]

Yep, and they are giving us A LOT of credit for our returning production on defense.

As they should. It's just funny, though, because ND is probably deserving of some hype and optimism based on the metrics they use, and yet we're all familiar enough with Brandon's issues late in the year, and with Elko's influence, that ND fans above all probably know how fragile that projection could be.

It kind of reminds me of scUM's projection two years ago, when everyone thought they were a shoe-in for the playoffs before the season started. They were getting huge amounts of credit for returning starters, but those projections don't have a way to place emphasis on certain flaws that can throw everything else for a loop. For scUM, it's the QB position.

It's kind of similar for ND, with the exception that Wimbush has at least shown some evidence that he can be a top-flight QB. Michigan never had that, but the projections didn't reflect their relative ceiling.

 

[stlnd01]

Funny thing is, given the disappointing November and big-name departures, we’ll be lucky to be in the top 15 in the preseason polls (Which is fine by me. The less hype, the better, IMO.

 

[BobbyMac]

More hype, more better. 4.5* and higher recruits like hype. 5*'s demand it.

 

[stlnd01]

More hype, more better. 4.5* and higher recruits like hype. 5*'s demand it.

And yet our actual football team seems to play better when the expectations (and resulting distractions) are lower. Recruits like wins, too.

 

[BobbyMac]

And yet our actual football team seems to play better when the expectations (and resulting distractions) are lower. Recruits like wins, too.

It's Notre Dame. They invented hype in team sports.

Wins, hype and top rated classes all go together. You can't get to the playoffs and a NC without them.

Just wait for the visitor's list for Michigan... it is going to be off the hook. The hype is coming regardless of what they are ranked.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Quarterback Quarterback Quarterback ...

Brandon good; we good ...
Brandon great; we great.

We've a WHOLE bunch of studs on this team.

 

[Old Man Mike]

This is probably noted elsewhere (or maybe not worth noting) but an early post-Spring Practice poll ranked Notre Dame ninth. This put us ahead of every team on our 2018 schedule --- BUT there are FIVE top-25ers ON that schedule.

Looking at such a monster task, going undefeated would be a real feat even with a really good Wimbush. But if we get by Michigan, then things set up well to get all the way through and past Stanford. Then a big trap awaits at VT.

.... just musing. (of the major monsters, we get three of the five at home.)

 

[BobbyMac]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame football players who stay for four years and exhaust their eligibility graduate at a rate of 98.5%. That is an incredible number! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/4For40?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#4For40</a> <a href="https://t.co/HXVyAWhCwF">pic.twitter.com/HXVyAWhCwF</a></p>— Brian Polian (@BrianPolian) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianPolian/status/991419273741590529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[phork]

CBS Sports poll has us 17 something with Michigan 15 and MSU #5.

 

[phork]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Notre Dame football players who stay for four years and exhaust their eligibility graduate at a rate of 98.5%. That is an incredible number! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/4For40?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#4For40</a> <a href="https://t.co/HXVyAWhCwF">pic.twitter.com/HXVyAWhCwF</a></p>— Brian Polian (@BrianPolian) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrianPolian/status/991419273741590529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And win less football games and championships than football factories.

/s

maybe

 

[stlnd01]

This is probably noted elsewhere (or maybe not worth noting) but an early post-Spring Practice poll ranked Notre Dame ninth. This put us ahead of every team on our 2018 schedule --- BUT there are FIVE top-25ers ON that schedule.

Looking at such a monster task, going undefeated would be a real feat even with a really good Wimbush. But if we get by Michigan, then things set up well to get all the way through and past Stanford. Then a big trap awaits at VT.

.... just musing. (of the major monsters, we get three of the five at home.)

Honestly Va Tech might scare me more than any other game on the schedule.

 

[phork]

Is there an updated 2 deep somewhere?

 

[BobbyMac]

https://www.ndinsider.com/football/depthchart/

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

https://www.ndinsider.com/football/depthchart/

That chart has JOK as the starter, I didn't realize he was the expected starter. In fact, much of what I read/saw made it seem like Bilal would be taking 1st team reps into fall.

 

[zelezo vlk]

That chart has JOK as the starter, I didn't realize he was the expected starter. In fact, much of what I read/saw made it seem like Bilal would be taking 1st team reps into fall.

Exactly what I've read too

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[Irish YJ]

That chart has JOK as the starter, I didn't realize he was the expected starter. In fact, much of what I read/saw made it seem like Bilal would be taking 1st team reps into fall.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/depth-chart-144

Rivals still has Bilal as the starter. Not sure if either of the charts are "real" (at this point in time from the coaching staff), or just projections from the "experts". Only a few differences.

Love that Gilman and Griffith are 1 and 2 at FS. Looking forward to the rotation at that position.

 

[Irish YJ]

The Carroll pick up moves us up to the 11 spot in the 2019 rankings.

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings

 

[dshans]

A little something I came across on this interspideyweb thingy rating the top 30 college football programs that produce the best NFL players:


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1. Notre Dame
> All-time NFL players: 567
> Pro Bowls: 182
> Alumni in Hall of Fame: 13
> Notable players: Joe Montana, Tim Brown

Notre Dame may be the most storied program in college football and it is without a doubt the best when it comes to producing NFL players. Quarterbacks like Joe Theismann, Joe Montana, and Daryle Lamonica are some of the game’s all time greats. The staggering amount of talent that has passed through South Bend, Indiana, provided the school with a rich sporting tradition unlike any other college. The Fighting Irish have 11 national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and have produced 66 first round draft picks. Two Notre Dame linemen, Quenton Nelson and Mike McGlinchey, seem likely to boost that number to 68 first rounders in 2018. Notre Dame also is tied with USC for the most first overall draft picks with five. The school also boasts 567 NFL players and 13 NFL Hall of Famers — both more than any other school.

Not bad from a recruiting perspective.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

A little something I came across on this interspideyweb thingy rating the top 30 college football programs that produce the best NFL players:


Source: Elsa / Getty Images


1. Notre Dame
> All-time NFL players: 567
> Pro Bowls: 182
> Alumni in Hall of Fame: 13
> Notable players: Joe Montana, Tim Brown

Notre Dame may be the most storied program in college football and it is without a doubt the best when it comes to producing NFL players. Quarterbacks like Joe Theismann, Joe Montana, and Daryle Lamonica are some of the game’s all time greats. The staggering amount of talent that has passed through South Bend, Indiana, provided the school with a rich sporting tradition unlike any other college. The Fighting Irish have 11 national championships, seven Heisman Trophy winners, and have produced 66 first round draft picks. Two Notre Dame linemen, Quenton Nelson and Mike McGlinchey, seem likely to boost that number to 68 first rounders in 2018. Notre Dame also is tied with USC for the most first overall draft picks with five. The school also boasts 567 NFL players and 13 NFL Hall of Famers — both more than any other school.

Not bad from a recruiting perspective.

Wow, those stats need to be bandied about.

 

[beryirish]

https://247sports.com/Bolt/College-football-coaches-read-mean-tweets-golf-course-edition-118031024

College football coaches read mean tweets, golf course edition

“I know funny GameDay signs are a dime a dozen these days, but ‘Brian Kelly drinks wine coolers’ that still pleases me.”

 

[IrishLion]

Haha that was pretty good

This coach’s name is Larry Fedora, but he wears a visor. Trustworthy? I think not.

 

[BobbyMac]

Sorry if posted elsewhere:

Good stuff

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly and <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> have mastered the art of exceeding expectations in slightly disappointing fashion. But what does that mean when you're favored in every game this fall?<a href="https://t.co/xDrlGYA5Ry">https://t.co/xDrlGYA5Ry</a></p>— Bill Connelly (@SBN_BillC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC/status/993849469547499527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pretty terrific preview from <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SBN_BillC</a> on ND <br><br>My thoughts<br>~ the QB play can only get better<br>~ OLine will still be one of the top 5 in the nation w/o Nelson and McGlinchey<br>~ defensive continuity is so important <br>~ Hayes and Okwara are about to become household names at EDGE <a href="https://t.co/tPHG9YsuNS">https://t.co/tPHG9YsuNS</a></p>— Jeff Feyerer (@jeff_feyerer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeff_feyerer/status/994004412703170560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[PANDFAN]

Sorry if posted elsewhere:

Good stuff

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly and <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NDFootball</a> have mastered the art of exceeding expectations in slightly disappointing fashion. But what does that mean when you're favored in every game this fall?<a href="https://t.co/xDrlGYA5Ry">https://t.co/xDrlGYA5Ry</a></p>— Bill Connelly (@SBN_BillC) <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC/status/993849469547499527?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 8, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pretty terrific preview from <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SBN_BillC</a> on ND <br><br>My thoughts<br>~ the QB play can only get better<br>~ OLine will still be one of the top 5 in the nation w/o Nelson and McGlinchey<br>~ defensive continuity is so important <br>~ Hayes and Okwara are about to become household names at EDGE <a href="https://t.co/tPHG9YsuNS">https://t.co/tPHG9YsuNS</a></p>— Jeff Feyerer (@jeff_feyerer) <a href="https://twitter.com/jeff_feyerer/status/994004412703170560?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

good read, thanks for posting...seemed very genuine and well thought out

 

[BobbyMac]

Geez... there are some guys here who're a handful but that crew over at NDNation are down right horrid.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Noted Irish homer <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SBN_BillC</a>'s entirely subjective preview of NDFB is discussed on NDN: <a href="https://t.co/WzAqB43u49">https://t.co/WzAqB43u49</a></p>— NDPoot (@PootND) <a href="https://twitter.com/PootND/status/994630743530852352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's hard to pick my favorite:<br>- Comparison of Bill to most famous propaganda minister of Nazi Germany<br>- Suggestion that the preview was ghost written by Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick<br>- "Journalist by marriage"<br>- "Never, ever work with data again."<br>- "What tripe"</p>— Jude (@andrewwinn) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewwinn/status/994631428968239104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[connor_in]

Geez... there are some guys here who're a handful but that crew over at NDNation are down right horrid.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Noted Irish homer <a href="https://twitter.com/SBN_BillC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SBN_BillC</a>'s entirely subjective preview of NDFB is discussed on NDN: <a href="https://t.co/WzAqB43u49">https://t.co/WzAqB43u49</a></p>— NDPoot (@PootND) <a href="https://twitter.com/PootND/status/994630743530852352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-conversation="none" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's hard to pick my favorite:<br>- Comparison of Bill to most famous propaganda minister of Nazi Germany<br>- Suggestion that the preview was ghost written by Notre Dame AD Jack Swarbrick<br>- "Journalist by marriage"<br>- "Never, ever work with data again."<br>- "What tripe"</p>— Jude (@andrewwinn) <a href="https://twitter.com/andrewwinn/status/994631428968239104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wow seeing this NDNation response magically makes me respect the writer and their thoughts much more now.