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[AllGoldEverything]

Newsme being a captain is a joke. He isn't even worthy of being the starting punter.

Come one man, really?

 

[NDRock]

I feel like Newsome has been here for 7 years. I honestly can’t remember who punted before him.

 

[KPENN]

Thats awesome that he is part of these groups. But you can't give someone a position that isn't a good player.

First off, The two have nothing to do with each other, but ok. Also, he's not as bad as you make him out to be.

this should be a coach appointed position but we are also talking about a head coach that let his oline pick a coach.

No it really shouldn't. Brian Kelly is far from the only coach that does this. Professional teams do this too.

 

[Henges24]

this should be a coach appointed position but we are also talking about a head coach that let his oline pick a coach.

Newsme being a captain is a joke. He isn't even worthy of being the starting punter.

Screw democracy, lets start a monarchy!

 

[BobbyMac]

Screw democracy, lets start a monarchy!

Who needs a King or Queen?

Let il Papa pick 'em.

 

[Old Man Mike]

One offensive captain, one defensive captain, one special teams captain, all popular practice field and locker room leadership guys --- what's not to like?

 

[BobbyMac]

Thoughts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Best defenses in the nation in 2018:<br>1. Michigan<br>2. Notre Dame<br>3. Washington<br>4. Clemson<br>5. Alabama<br>6. Auburn<br>7. Michigan St<br>8. Wisconsin<br>9. LSU<br>10. Ohio St</p>— Andrew Miller (@AndrewMillerSSC) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewMillerSSC/status/981141361201221632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[koonja]

Thoughts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Best defenses in the nation in 2018:<br>1. Michigan<br>2. Notre Dame<br>3. Washington<br>4. Clemson<br>5. Alabama<br>6. Auburn<br>7. Michigan St<br>8. Wisconsin<br>9. LSU<br>10. Ohio St</p>— Andrew Miller (@AndrewMillerSSC) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewMillerSSC/status/981141361201221632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How it's not Clemson at #1 blottles the mind. I get that Michigan and ND are returning a lot of players, but Clemson is returning elite players. I'd also take Alabama's over both Michigan's and NDs due to elite talent. They have it, they always will until Saban leaves.

I really hate that we're playing Michigan week 1. We can pump our chest but that's a 50/50 game, and we do have a really good defense and I'd love to get some momentum going rather than start out the season with a potential loss. If we win, all the better, but it's very high risk, high reward. Scheduling say, Purdue there is low risk, still high reward because we likely start out 5-0 and everyone's slobbing on our defense 1/4 the way into the season.

 

[phork]

How it's not Clemson at #1 blottles the mind. I get that Michigan and ND are returning a lot of players, but Clemson is returning elite players. I'd also take Alabama's over both Michigan's and NDs due to elite talent. They have it, they always will until Saban leaves.

I really hate that we're playing Michigan week 1. We can pump our chest but that's a 50/50 game, and we do have a really good defense and I'd love to get some momentum going rather than start out the season with a potential loss. If we win, all the better, but it's very high risk, high reward. Scheduling say, Purdue there is low risk, still high reward because we likely start out 5-0 and everyone's slobbing on our defense 1/4 the way into the season.

I see it more as a 70-30. New QB, on the road, at night. Patterson is looking more and more like not playing in 2018 and Mcaffery couldn't beat anything they had last year. Mo Hurst is gone (IMO is better than Gary and made Gary better). They missed on that kid from Rice so their OLine will take a step back from last year, it wasn't very good last year.

 

[connor_in]

How it's not Clemson at #1 blottles the mind. I get that Michigan and ND are returning a lot of players, but Clemson is returning elite players. I'd also take Alabama's over both Michigan's and NDs due to elite talent. They have it, they always will until Saban leaves.

I really hate that we're playing Michigan week 1. We can pump our chest but that's a 50/50 game, and we do have a really good defense and I'd love to get some momentum going rather than start out the season with a potential loss. If we win, all the better, but it's very high risk, high reward. Scheduling say, Purdue there is low risk, still high reward because we likely start out 5-0 and everyone's slobbing on our defense 1/4 the way into the season.

 

[koonja]

I see it more as a 70-30. New QB, on the road, at night. Patterson is looking more and more like not playing in 2018 and Mcaffery couldn't beat anything they had last year. Mo Hurst is gone (IMO is better than Gary and made Gary better). They missed on that kid from Rice so their OLine will take a step back from last year, it wasn't very good last year.

Based on what? Just curious - haven't heard anything personally.

 

[ab2cmiller]

It appears that Michigan believes he is likely to get the waiver. Whether that is grounded in reality is the question.

Ole Miss formally responded to the NCAA and University of Michigan last week.

Most believe the decision from the NCAA will come shortly.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Thoughts?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="de" dir="ltr">Best defenses in the nation in 2018:<br>1. Michigan<br>2. Notre Dame<br>3. Washington<br>4. Clemson<br>5. Alabama<br>6. Auburn<br>7. Michigan St<br>8. Wisconsin<br>9. LSU<br>10. Ohio St</p>— Andrew Miller (@AndrewMillerSSC) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewMillerSSC/status/981141361201221632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Where's A&M?

 

[connor_in]

It appears that Michigan believes he is likely to get the waiver. Whether that is grounded in reality is the question.

Ole Miss formally responded to the NCAA and University of Michigan last week.

Most believe the decision from the NCAA will come shortly.

Didn't we think Alohi was pretty much a forgone conclusion too?

 

[dshans]

"Blottles."

Yet another head scratcher.

No wonder I'm losing hairline daily.

I spend too much time blottling on IE.

 

[ulukinatme]

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[phork]

Based on what? Just curious - haven't heard anything personally.

It appears that Michigan believes he is likely to get the waiver. Whether that is grounded in reality is the question.

Ole Miss formally responded to the NCAA and University of Michigan last week.

Most believe the decision from the NCAA will come shortly.

Ole Miss's response to the application. I can't find the article but basically Ole Miss's reponse is that they are fighting it and that Michigan has to send more paper work.

Ole Miss Fighting Transfers | mgoblog <-- there it is.

 

[koonja]

Ole Miss's response to the application. I can't find the article but basically Ole Miss's reponse is that they are fighting it and that Michigan has to send more paper work.

Ole Miss Fighting Transfers | mgoblog <-- there it is.

Thanks. That might be the ugliest message board I've ever seen.

We might have banners of Charlie Weis and Mo Crum Jr, but at last ours doesn't look like a bowl of Trix cereal.

It's layout is hideous. Classic Michigan.

 

[connor_in]

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yeah, but even that is bottling, not blottling

 

[dublinirish]

Thanks. That might be the ugliest message board I've ever seen.

We might have banners of Charlie Weis and Mo Crum Jr, but at last ours doesn't look like a bowl of Trix cereal.

It's layout is hideous. Classic Michigan.

NDnation says hiiiiiiiiiii Mark

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Here's a good thread on what ND should learn from Augusta:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's expand on this: Augusta National demonstrates how a self-confident organization can still carve out an illiberal niche for itself. Not only does the club go to great lengths to perfect what it can control directly--course conditions & appearance, caddie attire, etc.--but... <a href="https://t.co/xstyVfidQy">https://t.co/xstyVfidQy</a></p>— Brandon McGinley (@brandonmcg) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonmcg/status/981197435509886976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[greyhammer90]

Here's a good thread on what ND should learn from Augusta:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Let's expand on this: Augusta National demonstrates how a self-confident organization can still carve out an illiberal niche for itself. Not only does the club go to great lengths to perfect what it can control directly--course conditions & appearance, caddie attire, etc.--but... <a href="https://t.co/xstyVfidQy">https://t.co/xstyVfidQy</a></p>— Brandon McGinley (@brandonmcg) <a href="https://twitter.com/brandonmcg/status/981197435509886976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Off point: I don't really see how it's "illiberal" for a private institution with monetary power to carry a big stick in regards to its image.

More on point: I also don't think ND gets enough credit from this guy for doing this exact thing. NBC pregame starts with the first notes of the fight song, the theme colors of the entire broadcast are blue and gold, NBC is forced to stick around for the alma mater after every game which I'm sure annoys them. Yes, they don't show the pre-game prayer, but until very recently that was a private moment for the team, they are only just now starting to show that more with jumbotron. Not saying they are perfect about this, but ND acts more like Augusta than any other college sports institution I can think of.

 

[IrishLax]

Off point: I don't really see how it's "illiberal" for a private institution with monetary power to carry a big stick in regards to its image.

More on point: I also don't think ND gets enough credit from this guy for doing this exact thing. NBC pregame starts with the first notes of the fight song, the theme colors of the entire broadcast are blue and gold, NBC sticks around for the alma mater after every game. Sure they don't show the pre-game prayer, but they are certainly starting to show that more with jumbotron. Not saying they are perfect about this, but ND acts more like Augusta than any other college sports institution I can think of.

Agreed, think his point is off-the-mark on multiple levels. There is no institution in America for any sport that exerts the kind of influence over their image in sports broadcasts than Notre Dame.

 

[greyhammer90]

Agreed, think his point is off-the-mark on multiple levels. There is no institution in America for any sport that exerts the kind of influence over their image in sports broadcasts than Notre Dame.

The fact that ESPN, NBC, and Sports Illustrated all apparently knew about the Te'o thing beforehand and were willing to sit on it to let Notre Dame construct the narrative (before Deadspin screwed it up) tells you all you need to know about who is wearing the pants IMO. I don't think it was their journalistic scruples that stopped them.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Off point: I don't really see how it's "illiberal" for a private institution with monetary power to carry a big stick in regards to its image.

More on point: I also don't think ND gets enough credit from this guy for doing this exact thing. NBC pregame starts with the first notes of the fight song, the theme colors of the entire broadcast are blue and gold, NBC is forced to stick around for the alma mater after every game which I'm sure annoys them. Yes, they don't show the pre-game prayer, but until very recently that was a private moment for the team, they are only just now starting to show that more with jumbotron. Not saying they are perfect about this, but ND acts more like Augusta than any other college sports institution I can think of.

Agreed, think his point is off-the-mark on multiple levels. There is no institution in America for any sport that exerts the kind of influence over their image in sports broadcasts than Notre Dame.

Exerting creative control isn't the same thing as marshaling one's influence to protect and promote cultural distinctiveness. McGinley mentioned the birth control mandate specifically, and this WSJ article by Alexandra DeSanctis goes into greater depth on that.

Point being, ND certainly tends its image very carefully, but it rolls over immediately whenever its Catholic distinctiveness runs up against secular liberalism. Not only does it not have to do that (as evidenced by Augusta), but it's actively hurting its brand by selling out ND's distinctiveness for whatever the Board of Fellows decides we ought to be instead.

 

[greyhammer90]

Exerting creative control isn't the same thing as marshaling one's influence to protect and promote cultural distinctiveness. McGinley mentioned the birth control mandate specifically, and this WSJ article by Alexandra DeSanctis goes into greater depth on that.

Point being, ND certainly tends its image very carefully, but it rolls over immediately whenever its Catholic distinctiveness runs up against secular liberalism. Not only does it not have to do that (as evidenced by Augusta), but it's actively hurting its brand by selling out ND's distinctiveness for whatever the Board of Fellows decides we ought to be instead.

That's a reasonable perspective, I was more focused on the football portion of the argument since this was in a football thread, and most of his examples regarding the football team had to do with the ND image*on NBC games. Even as to the image of distinctiveness when it comes to branding, I don't think they are perfect. For example, I wouldn't mind seeing the stick actually swung at an entity like ESPN, but I do think they do a pretty good job in that ring.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

That's a reasonable perspective, I was more focused on the football portion of the argument since this was in a football thread, and most of his examples regarding the football team had to do with the ND image*on NBC games. Even as to the image of distinctiveness when it comes to branding, I don't think they are perfect. For example, I wouldn't mind seeing the stick actually swung at an entity like ESPN, but I do think they do a pretty good job in that ring.

That's fair. I wasn't sure where to post this. "Culture" might have been more appropriate, but since it related to ND specifically, I wanted to put it in an ND-specific thread. Might be time to start a non-football-related General ND thread.

 

[zelezo vlk]

I mean, "Culture" could always use more high quality posts instead of me merely simply sharing articles about the rising suicide rate...

 

[ab2cmiller]

Notre Dame announces construction of new indoor athletics facility
https://www.ndinsider.com/football/notre-dame-announces-construction-of-new-indoor-athletics-facility/article_11217520-39d8-11e8-8405-b7cecbe6de44.html

The urgency was more about practicality than about keeping up with opulence in an escalating football facilities arm race.

And by next July, if everything goes according to schedule, the congestion in Notre Dame’s 30-year-old Loftus Center will be alleviated, and the Irish football team and men’s and women’s soccer teams will have a new indoor facility to call home.

The university made the official announcement Friday, with construction to begin “soon.” And according to the university release, the 111,400-square-foot Irish Indoor Athletics Center has been underwritten by gifts from a number of benefactors.

The demand at the Loftus Center from the university’s 26 sports and other activities means the facility has been used at least 18 hours a day during the winter months. That includes all eight spring football practices so far.

The time share was hardly ideal for the football team and was becoming impossible. In a Tribune story on a day in the life of Notre Dame head football coach Brian Kelly, published last summer, he spoke about the challenges.

Sometimes the Loftus wasn’t available for team runs, for example, so director of football performance Matt Balis worked around that by starting the football team’s lifting rotations as early as 5 a.m.

“And now the NCAA has legislated that we can’t start before 6,” Kelly said. “So we have to have our own building or else just play William & Mary more often, or we’ll be in trouble.”

The new facility will be constructed on the site of what is now the western-most field of three fields that comprise the LaBar Practice Complex, or closest to the Joyce Center.

Per Kelly, on the eastern edge of the new indoor field will be a bank of exit doors, so the team can easily transition out to the two remaining outdoor fields. There will be a large videoboard in the indoor facility.

“Everything to recreate a game-day atmosphere,” Kelly said.

Kelly points out that the new facility will have a peak of 76 feet, so kickoffs and punting can be performed without taking out chunks of the ceiling. The Loftus has a peak of 52 feet.

According to the university release, the new facility may also play host to campus-wide and community events, sports camps, recreational and club sports, pep rallies, game-day hospitality and other functions.

“Much as we have done with our approach to the Compton Family Ice Arena and the recent additions surrounding the football stadium, our focus when developing athletic facilities is to create uses that extend beyond varsity athletics,” Irish athletic director Jack Swarbrick said.

“In this instance, in addition to creating what we believe will be the best indoor football practice facility in the country, we are creating additional recreational, club sport and community opportunities, while also ensuring that the students on our other varsity teams are practicing at times that allow for a more typical student experience.”

Not included in the release were details about imminent changes to the Guglielmino Athletics Complex that Kelly last summer detailed to the Tribune.

The southern edge of it would expand all the way to the street that now runs between it and LaBar. The street itself will close to traffic and become a pedestrian walkway. A walkway bridge tentatively will connect the Gug and the indoor field.

On the second floor in the new addition to the Gug would be kitchen facilities and a dining area for training table. Currently, all the food is wheeled in from across campus. There will also be academic suites, where players can study and get tutoring.

“The first thing that has to go up is the indoor facility,” Kelly says, “so we can train properly, but the nutrition and academic areas are very important too.”

 

[ulukinatme]

I remember when the facility was just a few years old and we'd go in there to throw the football a little and run up and down the field. Now it's "old" and needs replaced Time flies by.