Fr Jenkins at the White House

[Rack Em]

I could revamp the entire ND admissions criteria in one single post:

1) If you're not a practicing Catholic, are you going to bitch about Notre Dame being Catholic?

2) It's the last Saturday of September during your Sophomore year. The weather in South Bend is unusually warm, with a high in the upper 80s. The football team is playing their 2nd home game of the season against Eastern Michigan at 3:30pm. There is less excitement surrounding the game due to playing a non-P5 opponent and because the Irish are 1-2 after dropping games against Navy and Purdue. You have two important exams on the Monday after the game. Since the Irish team is woefully underperforming this season and you're worried about your grades you would choose to:

a) Tailgate with your friends, attend the game, and support the team; or

b) Study in the library away from windows where the fans outside could distract your studies.


Anyone who answers #1 with "Yes" is an automatic rejection because they're going to be insufferable.
Anyone who answers #2 with (b) is an automatic "GTFO rejection" because they're using ND as a backup school to Stanford and the Ivys.

 

[zelezo vlk]

Paint a giant mural of Our Lady of Guadalupe on campus

 

[RDU Irish]

Wait, everyone realizes that Notre Dame is BY FAR the least “woke” of any top 20 university, right? It literally has the most healthy balance of competing political and philosophical ideologies of any top tier college out there, and is one of the few places where the inmates don’t run the asylum.

Fair point - relatively speaking ND is a bastion of conservative and religious thought. Depressing but fair.

 

[Legacy]

A job - any job - at a Holy Cross institution will bring you free tuition for your child for four years. A secretary with four children who qualify almost literarily has a million dollar job.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

A job - any job - at a Holy Cross institution will bring you free tuition for your child for four years. A secretary with four children who qualify almost literarily has a million dollar job.

They changed that recently. You now get 50% off tuition, or a credit of equal value that can be used at any other school.

 

[SonofOahu]

Tangentially related, but the Vatican's recently released financial statement for 2019 showed it's only worth $4 billion:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Holy See releases consolidation financial statement for 2019, and says that the Vatican as a whole (including Curia, Governorate, Peter’s Pence, IOR, Pension Fund and Foundations), has a net patrimony of about 4,000 million euros. <a href="https://t.co/qth6c1bIXx">https://t.co/qth6c1bIXx</a></p>— Catholic Sat (@CatholicSat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CatholicSat/status/1311715098407456775?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 1, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's less than half of ND's endowment.

Paging Scott Malpass. The Pope is on line 2 for you.

Malpass is the man, let me start there. I remember an interesting discussion in one of our finance classes about the way ND structures its loans and debt. Long story short, our professor was wondering why ND chose a seemingly less profitable route in the long run, when deciding how to fund campus upgrades.

Maybe if you're a non-profit entity whose goal in life is to (supposedly) better human life, the size of one's endowment is not the most important thing...

Not a dick joke.

 

[SonofOahu]

Give me this all day and twice on Sunday. My roommate when I studied abroad in London was from Malaysia. He straight up told me that if he went back to his country with a business degree, especially one from ND, he’d be set for life. ND was just the best American degree he could get and then he peaced out. He took away a spot from some hardworking kid from the Midwest who grew up loving ND and actually wanted to be there.

Dream school trumps the Ivy rejects. Let Northwestern have them.

I've met a few guys whose answer to the question of why they chose Notre Dame was "because I didn't get into Stanford", replete with a David Shaw smirk.

ND was never my dream school. In fact, I hated ND growing up. ND wasn't even on my radar when I was applying to b-school; I wanted to go to Stanford, Cal, or UDub. I didn't do as well on my GMAT as I wanted to, but it was still highly competitive.

ND reached out to me, and when I read through the program book, I was intrigued. I applied, got in, got to campus, and fell in love with it. I'm not religious, never have been, never will be, but I shit you not the first time I walked into the Grotto I shed a few tears.

I will never support ACB as a decision maker on the supreme court, because I think her vision of what America can be is the antithesis of what it should be. I will 100% support ACB as a person, however, because she's a Domer and I can trust and appreciate that.

 

[Irish#1]

Looks like Father Jenkins and his COVID has disappeared in this thread.

 

[Rack Em]

Looks like Father Jenkins and his COVID has disappeared in this thread.

We’ve got bigger titties to lick

 

[GowerND11]

We’ve got bigger titties to lick

So back to getting you in as Tsar of Admissions...

 

[NorthDakota]

I could revamp the entire ND admissions criteria in one single post:

1) If you're not a practicing Catholic, are you going to bitch about Notre Dame being Catholic?

2) It's the last Saturday of September during your Sophomore year. The weather in South Bend is unusually warm, with a high in the upper 80s. The football team is playing their 2nd home game of the season against Eastern Michigan at 3:30pm. There is less excitement surrounding the game due to playing a non-P5 opponent and because the Irish are 1-2 after dropping games against Navy and Purdue. You have two important exams on the Monday after the game. Since the Irish team is woefully underperforming this season and you're worried about your grades you would choose to:

a) Tailgate with your friends, attend the game, and support the team; or

b) Study in the library away from windows where the fans outside could distract your studies.


Anyone who answers #1 with "Yes" is an automatic rejection because they're going to be insufferable.
Anyone who answers #2 with (b) is an automatic "GTFO rejection" because they're using ND as a backup school to Stanford and the Ivys.

Hell yeah.

People who use colleges as safety schools are objectively annoying. We had a ton of kids who couldn't get into UM-Twin Cities for undergrad and they constantly shit on everything. Like lol dude I have my grievances too but you should be grateful this place even exists lol, you are getting a perfectly fine education from a school with a shit ton of connections in the places you want to live anyway.

Let's put rack 'em in charge of admissions at ND.

 

[tussin]

ND was never my dream school. In fact, I hated ND growing up. ND wasn't even on my radar when I was applying to b-school; I wanted to go to Stanford, Cal, or UDub. I didn't do as well on my GMAT as I wanted to, but it was still highly competitive.

ND reached out to me, and when I read through the program book, I was intrigued. I applied, got in, got to campus, and fell in love with it. I'm not religious, never have been, never will be, but I shit you not the first time I walked into the Grotto I shed a few tears.

I will never support ACB as a decision maker on the supreme court, because I think her vision of what America can be is the antithesis of what it should be. I will 100% support ACB as a person, however, because she's a Domer and I can trust and appreciate that.

If ACB is the "antithesis" of what America should be, what drew you to ND at all? An MBA is a highly immersive experience and the culture of the institution really impacts that.

 

[SouthSideChiDomer]

If ACB is the "antithesis" of what America should be, what drew you to ND at all? An MBA is a highly immersive experience and the culture of the institution really impacts that.

A hell of a lot of people who went to ND agree with Oahu's stance on this. Like others said, ND is pretty evenly split on political issues and this is no different.

 

[tussin]

A hell of a lot of people who went to ND agree with Oahu's stance on this. Like others said, ND is pretty evenly split on political issues and this is no different.

I think there is a distinct difference between political and/or religious differences and the view that a life guided by Catholicism is the "antithesis" (or direct opposite) of what America should be. If your views on the subject are that strong, I think some cognitive dissonance is required to completely buy-in to what ND stands for.

 

[RDU Irish]

I think there is a distinct difference between political and/or religious differences and the view that a life guided by Catholicism is the "antithesis" (or direct opposite) of what America should be. If your views on the subject are that strong, I think some cognitive dissonance is required to completely buy-in to what ND stands for.

ND recruiting atheists who hate the core of what ND should stand for is top notch work by admissions. ND being un-woke by today's millennial standards is apparently not from lack of effort.

 

[Rogue219]

I expressed my disapproval of Fr. Jenkins by emptying my closet of all my Adidas and Champion ND gear to Goodwill.

But not the UA stuff. He's going to have to shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue for me to do that.

 

[NDohio]

I expressed my disapproval of Fr. Jenkins by emptying my closet of all my Adidas and Champion ND gear to Goodwill.

But not the UA stuff. He's going to have to shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue for me to do that.

See, the thing is, you still had the Champion ND gear - probably still looked decent too. That UA stuff will look like crap in three years...

 

[NorthDakota]

See, the thing is, you still had the Champion ND gear - probably still looked decent too. That UA stuff will look like crap in three years...

Champion retro apparel is the freshest look out there.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sooo....<br><br>G. Marcus Cole = Business Guy<br>John Jenkins = Business Casual Guy <a href="https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc">https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1314007159731036160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bro wut

 

[Irish du Nord]

I think there is a distinct difference between political and/or religious differences and the view that a life guided by Catholicism is the "antithesis" (or direct opposite) of what America should be. If your views on the subject are that strong, I think some cognitive dissonance is required to completely buy-in to what ND stands for.

Yeah I am curious about the antithesis comments as well. I understand the resistance against filling RBG's seat with a republican nominee from a democrat's perspective, but ACB seems to be more of a legal actor than a political actor (as SCOTUS should be). Not someone trying to impose her views on people. Some nice thoughts on the topic from an ND professor:
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/09/what-to-know-about-amy-coney-barrett

 

[zelezo vlk]

I get that people are mad at him, but it irks me that Matt didn't include the Fr. Like him or not, Fr Jenkins is priest of Jesus Christ and deserves respect.

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[SonofOahu]

If ACB is the "antithesis" of what America should be, what drew you to ND at all? An MBA is a highly immersive experience and the culture of the institution really impacts that.

Three reasons:
1. Top 25 program with a rabid alumni base
2. Reputation for ethics (I was applying just after the era of Worldcom, Tyco, and Enron)
3. The level of professionalism they showed in their program guide; it was by far the best

I'm about to blow your mind, but the MBA program at ND is highly secular (gasp!) Sure, there's Jesus on the cross in every room, but the only time Catholicism creeps into the program is the first mass of the year (which is voluntary) and the occasional notice about activities at the Basilica (which is ridiculously beautiful, no matter what you believe in.)

I made sure to go to Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve, because I knew that would be a singular experience in my life. Other than that, the school's culture was mostly a result of the people, not religion per se. ND is sort of like Disneyland, really: there was always a certain amount of trust that you could leave your crap (like a bag, or something) out in the open and no one would take it.

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, that's what I respect about Father Jenkins: he's had to balance modern life and "Modern Catholics" with the unrealistic expectations of the hardliners.

 

[SonofOahu]

Yeah I am curious about the antithesis comments as well. I understand the resistance against filling RBG's seat with a republican nominee from a democrat's perspective, but ACB seems to be more of a legal actor than a political actor (as SCOTUS should be). Not someone trying to impose her views on people. Some nice thoughts on the topic from an ND professor:
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2020/09/what-to-know-about-amy-coney-barrett

I believe ACB could be someone like CJ Roberts: a conservative at heart, but a fair and principled decider. However, I absolutely do not believe in the core of Catholic belief. At its worst, it is repressive, authoritarian, and hypocritical.

 

[NDShark]

If he wanted to blend in, he should’ve worn a suit

 

[tussin]

Three reasons:
1. Top 25 program with a rabid alumni base
2. Reputation for ethics (I was applying just after the era of Worldcom, Tyco, and Enron)
3. The level of professionalism they showed in their program guide; it was by far the best

I'm about to blow your mind, but the MBA program at ND is highly secular (gasp!) Sure, there's Jesus on the cross in every room, but the only time Catholicism creeps into the program is the first mass of the year (which is voluntary) and the occasional notice about activities at the Basilica (which is ridiculously beautiful, no matter what you believe in.)

I guess it's school dependent. The culture at my MBA program was in lockstep with the undergrad institution. Sounds like you had a great experience.

 

[IrishLion]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sooo....<br><br>G. Marcus Cole = Business Guy<br>John Jenkins = Business Casual Guy <a href="https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc">https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1314007159731036160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bro wut

Any ND student currently on probation/dealing with discipline related to breaking COVID protocols as a result of 'gatherings' should immediately appeal with the same reasoning.

"I went to a social gathering, and others did not have masks on, so I thought it would be polite to remove mine to fit in."

Do as I say, not as I do; Be a leader, not a follower; etc.

 

[Rogue219]

See, the thing is, you still had the Champion ND gear - probably still looked decent too. That UA stuff will look like crap in three years...

LOL.

I have always tried to get neutral looking gear to stand the test of time. Not that bad choices have not been made.

 

[dublinirish]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sooo....<br><br>G. Marcus Cole = Business Guy<br>John Jenkins = Business Casual Guy <a href="https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc">https://t.co/hk8M3hbrGc</a></p>— Matt Freeman (@mattfreemanISD) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattfreemanISD/status/1314007159731036160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bro wut

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[Valpodoc85]

http://president.nd.edu/homilies-wr...age-from-rev-john-i-jenkins-c-s-c-10-15-2020/

Hot or not?

 

[IrishLax]

http://president.nd.edu/homilies-wr...age-from-rev-john-i-jenkins-c-s-c-10-15-2020/

Hot or not?

Pretty solid for prepared remarks.