Floyd Arrested

[Irish.Ca]

Who just sucked all of the oxygen out of the room? Just remember, it comes in 3's.

1. Loss to Fl. State the other night.

2. Floyd dui

3. Wenger transfer? ( I hope that counts!)

 

[HawaiianIrish]

Mike you messed up my man but all hope is not lost. I am very happy that you or others did not get hurt from this incident.
I hope that you learn from your mistakes and live a better life.

Mike you must realize that you are gonna be held to a higher standard. You are the star WR at Notre Dame.
You represent Notre Dame... Thee NOTRE DAME!!!

Now Mike you are gonna get punished one way or another thats for sure.

Accept your punishment and move on with your life.


Much Love from Hawaii!!!!!!

HAWAIIAN IRISH

 

[NDinFL]

Mike you messed up my man but all hope is not lost. I am very happy that you or others did not get hurt from this incident.
I hope that you learn from your mistakes and live a better life.

Mike you must realize that you are gonna be held to a higher standard. You are the star WR at Notre Dame.
You represent Notre Dame... Thee NOTRE DAME!!!

Now Mike you are gonna get punished one way or another thats for sure.

Accept your punishment and move on with your life.


Much Love from Hawaii!!!!!!

HAWAIIAN IRISH

Frankly, reading this entire thread is why I remember why I don't post on here very often....

BGIF, you bring the insight to the whole discussion.

I've been through a DUI myself, and it ISN'T fun (obviously) but me? well I'm my OWN WORST ENEMY, let alone what Mike is going through right now. (meaning I beat myself up about it and did EVERYTHING I could do to fix it, including taking classes, counseling, etc...)

I'm not saying it's excusable, not by any means, but how many of us were calling him the Heisman favorite less than, 2 months ago and now he's an "idiot", "dumbass", "fool"....

Michael Floyd is human, we should all remember that. Humans make mistakes.
I think someone posted before that this was,
"one of the biggest black eyes in ND's history" well, if that's the case, then I'm alright with that.

Old Man Mike(one of my favorites) alluded to it earlier- Michael will fix himself, and "I'm sure the football team will be fine".

"A Man's virtues are written in water, while his flaws are carved in stone."
This has made me very aware that this quote is alive and well....

 

[ab2cmiller]

I think its a little ridiculous that you guys think he will be gone for the whole season. I am 21 years old i have made some mistakes in my life and i have learned a lot from my mistakes just like everyone in this world. He made a mistake and i think Kelly will give him his punishment and Michael will handle it like a man. I see Michael missing spring pratice and maybe the season opener. Kelly said he is already going to reinstate him. We are lucky Floyd even decided to come back this year when everyone wrote him off saying he was gone to the NFL. I think we all need to relax and just wait instead of losing sleep over this. Its not like he punched an opposing player in the face, or lied to the NCCA. Not saying a DUI is not serious at all it is dont get me wrong. But some of us are freaking out over something we cant control. Michael Floyd will be on the field for the 2011 season in my opinion but in the mean time Deion Walker where ever you have been hiding for the past 3 years its time to come out and play.

As numerous people have pointed out already, this is not Brian Kelly's decision. This is a Res Life issue and they have to follow the policies that are written.

The way the DUI policy is written is that this DUI could be considered a second offense under this policy if either of his first two under age incidents he was considered to be intoxicated under the schools intoxication policy.

If he was found to be intoxicated in either of the first two under age incidents and this is considered his second offense under the DUI policy, then dismissal from ND for an academic semester is required which means he would miss the entire season. There is no flexebility in the policy itself and it doesn't matter if BK was willing to reinstate him or not.

The big question is if either of the first two incidents he was considered to be intoxicated. If he was, then he will miss the entire season.

 

[ThePiombino]

The thing I don't get is that ND is in a position to HELP Mike vs. punish him. Expelling him from school, thus virtually forcing him to give up education and head straight for the NFL is NOT helping him. What if he gets hurt or never makes it because he never got a chance to finish developing?

IF they have his well-being truly at heart then wouldn't expelling him be the LAST thing they'd want to do? It shouldn't be up to the school to punish him- that's what the court system is for. He will face the law and deal with those consequences for his poor action(s). Why must the university punish him on top of that. No one would like it if the state of Indiana said he couldn't play football, would they? How is this any different?.

Truth is, and some of you probably won't see it this way, but he has done A LOT more for the school than the school has done for him. Best way they can reward him for his on-field heroics and efforts is to help him become a better person, and part of that would be to allow him to finish and graduate on time with a degree from one of the most prestigious schools in the country. Then, and only then, would the school have done more for Mike than he has done for it thus far.

As for playing football- well, that's a whole other story. Playing football, or ANY extracurricular activity, is a bonus and a privilege. Does he deserve to miss the entire season? Maybe. Maybe not. The fact of the matter is that is a bridge that will be crossed AFTER his legal issues are addressed. Personally, if he truly learns his lesson and is sincerely sorry for his actions (and more importantly realizes WHY it was such a huge mistake), then he should be able to play whenever that is- be it 1 game or 10 games into the season.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Read South Bend TV and radio announced this morning he's out for the year, and it's non-negotiable. Anybody have a definitive link or word?

*Don't these types of cases take at least a little time to conduct and determine? If they already made their ruling, how is that even fair before getting all the facts?

 

[HawaiianIrish]

Frankly, reading this entire thread is why I remember why I don't post on here very often....

BGIF, you bring the insight to the whole discussion.

I've been through a DUI myself, and it ISN'T fun (obviously) but me? well I'm my OWN WORST ENEMY, let alone what Mike is going through right now. (meaning I beat myself up about it and did EVERYTHING I could do to fix it, including taking classes, counseling, etc...)

I'm not saying it's excusable, not by any means, but how many of us were calling him the Heisman favorite less than, 2 months ago and now he's an "idiot", "dumbass", "fool"....

Michael Floyd is human, we should all remember that. Humans make mistakes.
I think someone posted before that this was,
"one of the biggest black eyes in ND's history" well, if that's the case, then I'm alright with that.

Old Man Mike(one of my favorites) alluded to it earlier- Michael will fix himself, and "I'm sure the football team will be fine".

"A Man's virtues are written in water, while his flaws are carved in stone."
This has made me very aware that this quote is alive and well....

Florida,

It is what it is with Mike. He not only has to go through the legal process with the police, courts he must go through the Admin side with ND.

I am not bashing the kid by no means. I remember what it was like to be 21. I mean at a younger age i was a holy terror... It amazes me that i did not get arrested for DUI or any other related offense. I grew up and learned from my mistakes.

I wish Mike the best and i hope that he learns from his mistakes.

If this is the end of his ND career, then THANK YOU MIKE for all the hard work on the field.

When this mess is finally cleared i see Mike sober and in the blue and gold this coming fall...... GO IRISH AND MAY EVERYONE PLEASE BE SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[tadman95]

This is certainly painful news but more so for Michael than anyone here. ND is going to do what it has to do, the rules don't change. I hope that some mechanism is in place to support him through this serious learning experience. Would love to see him stay and get his degree before he tries the NFL.

Meanwhile, I expect the coaching staff is making plans to remake the receiving corp. Big opportunities for this group. Stuff happens, great coaches adapt. Great opportunity for Kelly to show his stuff. I'm not worried, gonna enjoy some of Aunt Bea's pie.......

 

[aubeirish]

Can he still enter the draft or not?

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

Can he still enter the draft or not?

Something I read on the Trib.

If Floyd were to leave ND, he could end up in the NFL’s supplemental draft, since he has now missed the underclassman deadline to enter the regular draft (April 28-30). However, with the NFL’s labor battle still waging, there’s no certainty about when or if a supplemental draft would be held. Only the regular draft is guaranteed to occur.


Eight players have been selected in the first round of the supplement draft since its inception in 1977, but none since 1992. Scott Wright of NFLDraftCountdown.com said that in that past decade players generally are selected two rounds lower than what they would have been in the regular draft.


Floyd could also elect to transfer down to a FCS (Division I-AA) or Division II school to rehabilitate his draft stock or stay at ND and face his punishment.

 

[enrico514]

Kids **** up and hopefully he will learn from this experience. I would assume most of us over a certain age and who drink have gotten behind the wheel when, in hindsight, we probably shouldn't have.

He needs to understand that there are consequences to our actions and that he is extremely lucky no one was injured. For that reason alone the school should impose a severe penalty. That being said, he probably needs their support more than being kicked off the team.

I think it's pretty obvious that Rez Life was way too draconian in the punishment they imposed on students in the past. Unless I am mistaking, there has been some changes there in the last year or so that would lead me to believe that while he will be punished it may not be as severe as it would have been a couple of years ago. Suspend him for a quarter or half of the season but allow him to participate in team activities... specifically training camps, workouts and practices.

 

[BGIF]

While we have discusses a number of precedents with Res Life there's one other important factor. The leadership positions at Res Life have undergone a change recently. And like with the Supreme Court the impact is unknown at this point. Do they reflect the new President (Jenkins) rather than the previous one (Malloy).

Less draconian leadership might result in a less than hard nosed interpetation of the first two incidents which set the tone for the current situation.

 

[OchoShayneO]

If I was the guy who caught Floyd I would have drove him home. Thats the guy who should get the blame. Like, what your not an ND fan? Drop your plastic badge and do the best player in the country a favor.

 

[loomis41973]

If I was the guy who caught Floyd I would have drove him home. Thats the guy who should get the blame. Like, what your not an ND fan? Drop your plastic badge and do the best player in the country a favor.

Then you would be a problem.

 

[ab2cmiller]

If I was the guy who caught Floyd I would have drove him home. Thats the guy who should get the blame. Like, what your not an ND fan? Drop your plastic badge and do the best player in the country a favor.

Wow. A .19 blood alcohol level and ran a stop sign and you want to state the officer is to blame and he should've let him off? That's disturbing.

 

[IrishLax]

Anyone here lurk the boards of other teams? Pretty funny to hear them say things to the effect of "probably won't miss any game time" or "will likely get the standard 1 game suspension."

Almost tempted to make an account to correct the ignorant USC and Michigan fans... but just not worth the time.

 

[IrishBlood81]

While we have discusses a number of precedents with Res Life there's one other important factor. The leadership positions at Res Life have undergone a change recently. And like with the Supreme Court the impact is unknown at this point. Do they reflect the new President (Jenkins) rather than the previous one (Malloy).

Less draconian leadership might result in a less than hard nosed interpetation of the first two incidents which set the tone for the current situation.

Well thats a small ray of hope. Thanks for that BGIF.

 

[irishpat183]

Floyd, you have a chance to be an All-American, Heisman canidate, and playing in a BCS game. I understand you are a kid, we were all there. But you have so much on the line.

Pull your head outta your a$$.

That's all that needs to be said.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Anyone here lurk the boards of other teams? Pretty funny to hear them say things to the effect of "probably won't miss any game time" or "will likely get the standard 1 game suspension."

Almost tempted to make an account to correct the ignorant USC and Michigan fans... but just not worth the time.

We have our own ND fans on other boards that are still thinking the same thing.

 

[dshans]

In May of 2009 he was cited for underage consumption. In January of 2010 he was cited for underage consumption. Both incidents were misdemeanors, and he was not arrested. He was not driving either time and there are no records of what his BAC was or that he was even given tests, breathalyzer or otherwise.

I only wish he'd had the good sense sleep it off wherever he'd been partying, a tactic I employed a number of times. It's amazing how comfy a shag rug can be with that much alcohol in one's system. [I assume that he was at a party, at least at the end, since there are no bars open that late in South Bend. Were his blood alcohol level that high two and half hours after last call, he should have been cut off much, much earlier.]

I have no clue as to what Res Life will do. I only hope that it will be fair and of help to Michael. And that Michael, no matter the actions taken by Res Life or Kelly, gets his act together and makes better choices.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Wow. A .19 blood alcohol level and ran a stop sign and you want to state the officer is to blame and he should've let him off? That's disturbing.

I think he meant that majority of campus cops are Paul Blart-type guys with nothing better to do than crush a kid's dreams since they lost theirs years ago.

*Obviously Floyd did this to himself, and has nobody else to blame, I'm just understanding where the poster is coming from.

 

[IrishLax]

My experience with NDSP is actually all good. They are very fair. Sometimes they'll give you a break for the little things, sometimes they'll enforce the rules.

When someone blows a stop sign with a BAC of .19 your hands are tied. DUI is no joke. I'm really interested to hear the fully story (although I doubt we ever will... hate not being on campus anymore and 'plugged in') as I assume he had someone or multiple people with him. It only makes sense... why else would he be going to campus? For a spin around main circle? I guess it's possible considering his impairment.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I think he meant that majority of campus cops are Paul Blart-type guys with nothing better to do than crush a kid's dreams since they lost theirs years ago.

*Obviously Floyd did this to himself, and has nobody else to blame, I'm just understanding where the poster is coming from.

It's obvious that's what the poster thinks of the campus cops, but he flat out said that the cop should've drove him home and that the cop is to blame. That is pure bull crap.

 

[irishpat183]

This is ALL Floyd's own doing. There is no blame to cops or whatever. He was drinking and driving. I don't care if it's an ND player or just some student. Horrible decision.

And the fact that he's been busted twice before on drinking charges just makes me question if he's got his head on straight. Yeah, we all get busted once...maybe twice...but 3 times?!? Come on, Mike.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

This is ALL Floyd's own doing. There is no blame to cops or whatever. He was drinking and driving. I don't care if it's an ND player or just some student. Horrible decision.

And the fact that he's been busted twice before on drinking charges just makes me question if he's got his head on straight. Yeah, we all get busted once...maybe twice...but 3 times?!? Come on, Mike.

+1. Imagine if the guy let him keep going, and Floyd hit 4wd and ran over a statue, wrecked into the Grotto, or even worse? Talk about uuuuuuuugly.

 

[OchoShayneO]

I didnt say he should let him keep going. But maybe shut your radio off and call him a cab or something.

 

[IrishBlood81]

I mean are we seriously even thinking about Blaming the cop that stopped him?!
We'd be laughing our heads off if we read this on a UM or USC forum!
Lets try to grow up and accept what happened with dignity and class.

 

[OchoShayneO]

all im trying to say is if I happend to be the arresting officer that night nobody hears about this. thats how dedicated a fan I am.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I didnt say he should let him keep going. But maybe shut your radio off and call him a cab or something.

OK so you take him home because you are a nice guy. What happens if he does the same thing a month from now and someone gets hurt or killed. How do you feel now? Guess who the family is going to sue if they found out about you letting him off? Guess who's going to lose their job?

Dedicated fan????? that has nothing to do with doing the right thing.

 

[OchoShayneO]

not because im a nice guy. because I want to win games next year. And which way would you be happier right now?