Five Players Arrested

[Legacy]

For any of you not familiar with the state of Indiana:

There are but TWO rules you must obey while driving in the Hoosier state. Drive EXACTLY the posted speed limit on US 31 from South Bend to Indy and drive EXACTLY the speed limit on US 41 from Highland all the way to Kentucky. The speed limits go up and down as you go through countless small towns, hamlets and hwy intersections. Local, County and State officers then fight over your carelessness to fill their coffers with speeding fines. You wanna roll and blaze? Go jump on the Toll Road and head to Gary and turn around at Ripley St. Everybody is doing 75-80 and there's every color of American on that road. You can even stop at Sbarro's in the rest stop and crush them munchies.

BUT---->

Speeding on 31, in the middle of the night, with a tail light out, with Maryland plates, in Fulton fecking Co., with a car load of brothers, while smoking weed and holding an unlicensed, loaded piece is basically the antithesis of what one does to stay out of trouble in the Hoosierland.

All they were missing to win first prize in the Dumbest Scenario Ever contest was an ISIS member with a dirty bomb in the trunk.

So so true. Prize for Dumbest for breaking these inviolable rules. What do you have if they wipe the gun and baggie, swallow the rest of the m.j. among five of them and toss the baggie and gun?

Despite that, I like Chip Kelly's solution with LaGarrett Blunt. Move them in with assistant coaches - or in Holy Cross Hall - and indefinite suspension. Let the parents take away the car.

 

[arrowryan]

BK made a couple quick decisions.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Max Redfield has been dismissed from <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> football team per Brian Kelly.<a href="https://t.co/B6HtOSCvnj">https://t.co/B6HtOSCvnj</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/767439198139723777">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Devin Butler has been placed on “indefinite suspension. The other members involved are subject to discipline internal to the football team.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/767439408131772417">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[arrowryan]

AKA another Camp Kelly?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The other four players arrested will face internal discipline from the football team. That is independent of University discipline.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/767441192845971456">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Blaise]

AKA another Camp Kelly?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The other four players arrested will face internal discipline from the football team. That is independent of University discipline.</p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/767441192845971456">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hoping this means these kids will only be suspended for a game or two

 

[Graybeard52]

This link is to BK's full statement.

Brian Kelly Statement :: Notre Dame Football :: UND.COM :: The Official Site of Notre Dame Athletics

 

[RDU Irish]

Pretty short convo with each if you are Kelly. Whose gun and whose pot? That person(s) is most responsible for the escalation of the traffic stop and if it was Max - he doublely failed as an upper classman and supposed leader.

 

[arrowryan]

Here is BK's full press release. I wonder if it was Max's gun if he was the only one dismissed? That could still be untrue as Kelly mentions that the other 4 aren't off the hook yet with the law and the university.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is Brian Kelly’s full statement. It’s very strongly worded. Overwhelming frustration with weekend’s events. <a href="https://t.co/o1nDCMUUJo">pic.twitter.com/o1nDCMUUJo</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/767442037096476672">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

With everything coming out this morning I wonder if max had the gun and pot
On him and manned up and took one for the team. If that's the case I doubt the other 4 miss a game or at the most
1.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

Here is BK's full press release. I wonder if it was Max's gun if he was the only one dismissed? That could still be untrue as Kelly mentions that the other 4 aren't off the hook yet with the law and the university.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is Brian Kelly’s full statement. It’s very strongly worded. Overwhelming frustration with weekend’s events. <a href="https://t.co/o1nDCMUUJo">pic.twitter.com/o1nDCMUUJo</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@PeteSampson_) <a href="https://twitter.com/PeteSampson_/status/767442037096476672">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Exactly, the university and law still have their say in things. This isn't over by a long shot.

 

[arrowryan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kelly has warranted criticism on such issues in past but deserves credit for reacting swiftly, strongly without waiting for ND bureaucracy.</p>— David Haugh (@DavidHaugh) <a href="https://twitter.com/DavidHaugh/status/767450062368768004">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">It's easy to be cynical when it comes to discipline & CFB these days, but <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> has shown repeatedly it doesn't give it lip service.</p>— Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/767449916104806400">August 21, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Southside Sully]

Exactly, the university and law still have their say in things. This isn't over by a long shot.

They are misdemeanors it will not be lengthy it will be community service I bet .

If your Max do you stay enrolled, get your degree and do grad transfer next year or do you transfer immediately ??

 

[johnnycando]

They are misdemeanors it will not be lengthy it will be community service I bet .

If your Max do you stay enrolled, get your degree and do grad transfer next year or do you transfer immediately ??

You get him the hell out of dodge and as stated elsewhere, keep the cancer from metastizing to other parts...

He wasted a great opportunity and he had the athleticism to be great. Such a shame.

 

[Buster Bluth]

They are misdemeanors it will not be lengthy it will be community service I bet .

If your Max do you stay enrolled, get your degree and do grad transfer next year or do you transfer immediately ??

Stay, graduate, play elsewhere next season.

 

[IrishLax]

I have no idea what you're talking about ("unlimited"?) but I'm sure I'll get a lot more neg rep if Texas wins. I'll make sure of it.

Some of the posters on this board are pretty cocky given the upcoming 3 loss season.

That tends to happen when you utterly embarrass a team the year before.

 

[IrishFanForever23]

That tends to happen when you utterly embarrass a team the year before.

Lax, based on your statements last night, is this what you were expecting? Or, are you expecting more to come down?

 

[IrishLax]

Lax, based on your statements last night, is this what you were expecting? Or, are you expecting more to come down?

It was exactly what I was expecting.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Some of the stuff about, "It was only pot and it's legal other places" sort of misses a key point. Whether it's legal, illegal, legal on the other side of the state line 50 feet away, or legal everywhere in the world except the county you're in isn't the key issue here. It's against team rules set down by the coaching staff and not using it is a condition of being part of that team. I know most coaches feel they have to accept a certain amount of it from their players and tend to not punish the users too much, but whether it's legal or not, players who use are knowingly and willfully violating team rules (and yes, when it happens at my school, I wish Saban would make an example of them and send them packing).

 

[AlabamaDuck]

Redfield

Redfield

Redfield has been dismissed from ND. Butler has been suspended and the other 5 will be handled internally.
It could have been a lot worse.

 

[AlabamaDuck]

Speeding

Speeding

I was posting about the Alabama player, who was stopped when the cops approached him.

He was let off because he was a football player, as LAX said, but there were also a lot of legit reporters saying that the cops knew their reason for approaching the car in the first place wouldn't hold up in a trial.

They were speeding , 73 in a 60, so I think they had cause.

The Alabama player was arrested in Louisiana (his home) where he turned down LSU for Alabama. I don`t know how he got off. The gun was stolen.

 

[BGIF]

They are misdemeanors it will not be lengthy it will be community service I bet .

If your Max do you stay enrolled, get your degree and do grad transfer next year or do you transfer immediately ??

If he has any smarts he stays ... if allowed by UND. Then he works his ass off academically, getting his degree and doing whatever else UND requires.

He has shown poor judgment, now he needs to demonstrate maturity. He has a career ahead of him. He needs to separate himself from his incident and become the man he can be.

Transferring of his own violation at this time doesn't deal with his poor judgment. It only shows he can run away when adversity arises.

With degree in hand he can approach Kelly about reinstatement or move on via the graduate transfer provision.

 

[BGIF]

Redfield has been dismissed from ND. Butler has been suspended and the other 5 will be handled internally.
It could have been a lot worse.

From I've read from the media and Kelly's press release, Redfield was dismissed from the football team, not from ND.

Redfield (and the others) still has to face the University for student code violations to determine his student status.

 

[dad4aa]

From I've read from the media and Kelly's press release, Redfield was dismissed from the football team, not from ND.

Redfield (and the others) still has to face the University for student code violations to determine his student status.

That was my understanding as well. I don't believe anything has happened at ND since the students just returned.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm curious to see if Kelly got any concessions after the frozen 5.

What I would like to see is some swift justice. I'm going to be really pissed if the bureaucratic process stretches this out for weeks.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Five Players Arrested!!!

Five Players Arrested!!!

I'm curious to see if Kelly got any concessions after the frozen 5.



What I would like to see is some swift justice. I'm going to be really pissed if the bureaucratic process stretches this out for weeks.

I wouldn't hold your breath, and this mystery man in the picture has my spider sense tingling.

 

[phgreek]

Looks like Kelly handled the distraction to the starting lineup pretty quickly.

I think if these guys were smoking dope...and they took a blood test or admitted it...ND is in a difficult spot to retain any of them at ND...I think none are playing football this season....

Hoping SOMEONE was just there...but not holding my breath.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Looks like Kelly handled the distraction to the starting lineup pretty quickly.



I think if these guys were smoking dope...and they took a blood test or admitted it...ND is in a difficult spot to retain any of them at ND...I think none are playing football this season....



Hoping SOMEONE was just there...but not holding my breath.

Why do you keep saying that they will not play this year because they smoked weed?

I told you before in 2012 Utopo and Wood were suspended 2 games for weed.

And BTW dope is heroin not weed!


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[Domina Nostra]

And BTW dope is heroin not weed!

Not a fact.

 

[phgreek]

Why do you keep saying that they will not play this year because they smoked weed?

I told you before in 2012 Utopo and Wood were suspended 2 games for weed.

And BTW dope is heroin not weed!


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Thats great...we'll see. If there is evidence or admission of a person smoking, I believe that person will not play this year. Further, given the circumstances, and the publicity, ND may kick them out if they smoked...the very least I think ND will burn them for the semester (pun intended).

Been calling "weed" dope since I was old enough to know what it was...no one misunderstood me to mean heroin...don't know what to tell ya.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Five Players Arrested!!!

Five Players Arrested!!!

Thats great...we'll see. If there is evidence or admission of a person smoking, I believe that person will not play this year. Further, given the circumstances, and the publicity, ND may kick them out if they smoked...the very least I think ND will burn them for the semester (pun intended).



Been calling "weed" dope since I was old enough to know what it was...no one misunderstood me to mean heroin...don't know what to tell ya.

I don't understand why you keep saying if there is evidence of that person smoking they will not play this year.

I just gave you an example of players who I believe were caught smoking in a dorm and got a 2 game suspension.

Your statement makes no sense and has no previous incidents to back it up. While the Utopo and Wood incident kind of sets a precedent.


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[Southside Sully]

If he has any smarts he stays ... if allowed by UND. Then he works his ass off academically, getting his degree and doing whatever else UND requires.

He has shown poor judgment, now he needs to demonstrate maturity. He has a career ahead of him. He needs to separate himself from his incident and become the man he can be.

Transferring of his own violation at this time doesn't deal with his poor judgment. It only shows he can run away when adversity arises.

With degree in hand he can approach Kelly about reinstatement or move on via the graduate transfer provision.

That is what i thought as well. He probably was on track for a December grad like they have been getting most of these guys to be done in 3.5. For his sake he probably is going to try whatever it takes to get that weapons charge off of his record if he really wants to be in CIA or FBI.

Everyone's all over this kid, ya he messed up, but he's still young, never want to see a kids future be completely wiped away because of a thoughtless lack of judgement. Especially for misdemeanors. Clean it up, grow up, become a man, claim some responsibility and do what it takes to be a better man and move on.