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87% of NYers Approve of Cuomo’s Handling of the Coronavirus (Siena)

Siena is one of only six pollsters to earn A+ rating from FiveThirtyEight.com.

The latest favorability poll on Cuomo's handling of the coronavirus was a 73-24 percent margin, down slightly from 76-21 percent in June.

From July: Poll: Gov. Cuomo’s approval rating soaring during coronavirus outbreak

Cuomo is rejecting DeBlasio's shutdown plan of NYC.

I like Cuomo better than DeBlasio, but would point out a couple things.

-The first link/headline you post is from March 2020, so a little misleading......
-The second poll says his approval is soaring, yet his handling of the of the pandemic saw a good drop off from the March poll in the first link.
 

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Respectfully, this isn't true. Ontario is quite dense, since our population is mostly contained to the most southern part. We only have around ~5k active cases. BC has been noted to have done well since their March break was a week later than those on the east coast so the travel was shut down before they could go on vacation, and they have a sound government.

Brother, I am not trying to argue. I just find it puzzling that Canada's largest numbers come from Quebec, Ontarion, Alberta and B.C. Obviously, population density plays a factor.

What has surprised me is the numbers from B.C.. They have done very well if reporting is to be trusted. I'm not going to guess, but the majority of British Columbians live on the west coast... Vancouver up to Prince Rupert.

Also, a huge Asian population (no offense intended) and a lot of transients.

I'm really interested if they had/have a plan or just got lucky.

Cheers and Go Irish!!
 

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Sarcasm my friend.

You are a graduate of Notre Dame who used to beat up Law students. Act like it!! Bro I’m having fun at this point. After all these months I know where people sit on the subject here. Stupid stunt? Probably. But let’s remember the guy is surrounded by secret service agents 24/7. I’ll go ahead and assume they were going to be quarantined anyway after such at risk exposure.

I work in one of the zip codes DeBlasio is shutting schools and businesses in again. I’ve been first hand dealing with this shit since day 1. Forgive me for trolling a bit .

Thank you, kind sirs. I was beginning to worry that we were all going batshit crazy for a second.

I was like "Wait, why would a firefighter question masks?! You guys are the subject-matter experts on this sort of thing..."
 

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I believe that the hard-lockdown-until-the-vaccine strategy was based on two powerful points of view: 1. As said, moral concerns for those having the greatest risk (especially as they would also have less personal choice to avoid infection in a wide-open society) and 2. the usual faith that economists and students of American resilience have that our juggernaut economy would recover from the COVID lockdown burden similarly to the way we recover from any recession --- maybe better, since in this case there would be (they hoped) understanding at all governmental levels, no name-calling blame, a come on America We can Do It War mentality, and a general US optimism that America overcomes things like this.

Our failure here is the product of the overlapping politics playing this dammed thing off tune instead of "All-in-it-together" cheerleading. Our horrible nation-dividing political strategies conspire to place as much unhelpful psychological sh!t in everyone's brain as possible.

Without lockdowns, you risk overburdening your healthcare system because COVID cases would crowd-out the bedspace and wear down the staff.

With lockdowns you risk bankrupting your healthcare system because people aren't going to hospitals, and those that do are potentially uninsured due to their employer closing operations.

It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't choice.
 

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87% of NYers Approve of Cuomo’s Handling of the Coronavirus (Siena)

Siena is one of only six pollsters to earn A+ rating from FiveThirtyEight.com.

The latest favorability poll on Cuomo's handling of the coronavirus was a 73-24 percent margin, down slightly from 76-21 percent in June.

From July: Poll: Gov. Cuomo’s approval rating soaring during coronavirus outbreak

Cuomo is rejecting DeBlasio's shutdown plan of NYC.
Cuomo was a media darling at the start of the pandemic here. Must see tv on his daily press conferences. He has since pretty much bankrupt the state. Like I said, I don’t know who these polls you share actually survey, but I personally do not know one person happy with Fredos big brother.
I don’t see a path to the financial recovery of this state or city. We are in trouble and it’s only getting worse.
 

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He doesn't get it or doesn't care

He doesn't get it or doesn't care

Returning to the WH while he is contagious with Covid means everywhere he walks is potentially infectious and transmittable of the aerosolized virus. Instead of being in a controlled environment with professional who know how to minimize the risk, he'll have isolation carts with staff "coming in contact with him will wear gowns, gloves, mask, and eye protection". I doubt he would wear a mask while walking around the WH, which makes all those rooms and surfaces potentially infectious. Anyone of those who have tested positive at the Superspreader event they held is quarantining at home and keeping separate from their family and friends has less of a chance of transmission to those around them. I would assume - but who knows - that every night the rooms he has walked through are sanitized with a terminal clean.
What "coming in contact" with him means is not clear. Entering the room? Going within six feet? Handling documents he signs or gives them? Factor in the 20% false negative rate from the Abbott rapid testing and strict airborne droplet precautions are very important.

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Somebody get Rudy a Ricola or Halls.

Or these guys:

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Going out to eat with members of your household this weekend? Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.<br><br>Do your part to keep those around you healthy. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SlowtheSpread?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SlowtheSpread</a><a href="https://t.co/snYe5v55Rw">https://t.co/snYe5v55Rw</a> <a href="https://t.co/Y4fcDO5Zke">pic.twitter.com/Y4fcDO5Zke</a></p>— Office of the Governor of California (@CAgovernor) <a href="https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

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Returning to the WH while he is contagious with Covid means everywhere he walks is potentially infectious and transmittable of the aerosolized virus. Instead of being in a controlled environment with professional who know how to minimize the risk, he'll have isolation carts with staff "coming in contact with him will wear gowns, gloves, mask, and eye protection". I doubt he would wear a mask while walking around the WH, which makes all those rooms and surfaces potentially infectious. Anyone of those who have tested positive at the Superspreader event they held is quarantining at home and keeping separate from their family and friends has less of a chance of transmission to those around them. I would assume - but who knows - that every night the rooms he has walked through are sanitized with a terminal clean.
What "coming in contact" with him means is not clear. Entering the room? Going within six feet? Handling documents he signs or gives them? Factor in the 20% false negative rate from the Abbott rapid testing and strict airborne droplet precautions are very important.

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Just don't see him returning to the WH as that big of a deal. He is afterall and much to your chagrin the Prez. I would imagine they put protocols in place for those that have to work with him. Wouldn't bother me if it was Obama doing this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Going out to eat with members of your household this weekend? Don't forget to keep your mask on in between bites.<br><br>Do your part to keep those around you healthy. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SlowtheSpread?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SlowtheSpread</a><a href="https://t.co/snYe5v55Rw">https://t.co/snYe5v55Rw</a> <a href="https://t.co/Y4fcDO5Zke">pic.twitter.com/Y4fcDO5Zke</a></p>— Office of the Governor of California (@CAgovernor) <a href="https://twitter.com/CAgovernor/status/1312437371460173825?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That will go over biggly.
 

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Just don't see him returning to the WH as that big of a deal. He is afterall and much to your chagrin the Prez. I would imagine they put protocols in place for those that have to work with him. Wouldn't bother me if it was Obama doing this.



That will go over biggly.

Ok. You do not understand this virus and the airborne precautions needed to prevent its spread. Look it up if you care. Neither does he. I am looking forward to seeing everyone who enters a room he is in or has been while still contagious in gown, n95 mask, goggles, gloves. This is medical not political. He has been "schooled" on this multiple times and also doesn't get it - or doesn't care about the risk to others. That's a major reason why we have this pandemic.
 
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/08/orthodox-jews-protest-covid-brooklyn/

As a surge in coronavirus cases has prompted government authorities to issue new lockdown orders, including restrictions on houses of worship, some in this mostly insular community have turned their skepticism of public health measures into open defiance.

For three consecutive nights, hundreds of men have congregated on the streets of Brooklyn, dancing, clashing with police and burning face masks. They have also physically attacked journalists and others documenting the scenes, including one Hasidic man who ended up in the hospital early Wednesday.
 

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I think I may have this guys. I have felt cruddy for a couple of days but no cough or fever. Tonight I have one of 100.7. I have a slight cough and my body is aching slightly even in my fingers and toes. Headache with light headedness. The odd thing is that I have a slight cool burn sensation on my shins.
I'm getting tested tomorrow morning :(
 

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So.....WHO says Lockdowns have been overused to fight Covid. Does this mean that those who follow the science behind this will now lift lockdown measures? Or, there has already been too much political capital involved to reverse course now?
 

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Ok. You do not understand this virus and the airborne precautions needed to prevent its spread. Look it up if you care. Neither does he. I am looking forward to seeing everyone who enters a room he is in or has been while still contagious in gown, n95 mask, goggles, gloves. This is medical not political. He has been "schooled" on this multiple times and also doesn't get it - or doesn't care about the risk to others. That's a major reason why we have this pandemic.

Thank you doctor.
 

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Cases are going up in Indiana. Very curious to see if we stay in school much longer, especially with flu season coming up. Glad I'm not making decisions...there is no right answer.
 

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So.....WHO says Lockdowns have been overused to fight Covid. Does this mean that those who follow the science behind this will now lift lockdown measures? Or, there has already been too much political capital involved to reverse course now?

Our current leaders don't follow WHO guidelines or Fauchior any other scientists it see. Problem is masks and social distancing haven't been taken seriously enough. If everyone followed those guidelines, lockdowns might not be as necessary
 

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So.....WHO says Lockdowns have been overused to fight Covid. Does this mean that those who follow the science behind this will now lift lockdown measures? Or, there has already been too much political capital involved to reverse course now?

I don't foresee anything changing prior to the election. It will get really interesting thereafter.
 

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So.....WHO says Lockdowns have been overused to fight Covid. Does this mean that those who follow the science behind this will now lift lockdown measures? Or, there has already been too much political capital involved to reverse course now?


Definitely not going to change course. Dems have way too much invested is maintaining the status quo at this point in the election cycle. There is also a new study by a Brown University professor that indicates that schools are not super-spreaders of the coronavirus per an article published by the Atlantic. Hardly a conservative publication. No chance that this study will have any impact on schools opening up anytime soon either.

n early August, the first kids in America went back to school during the pandemic. Many of these openings happened in areas where cases were high or growing: in Georgia, Indiana, Florida. Parents, teachers, and scientists feared what might happen next. The New York Times reported that, in parts of Georgia, a school of 1,000 kids could expect to see 20 or 30 people arrive with COVID-19 during week one. Many assumed that school infections would balloon and spread outward to the broader community, triggering new waves. On social media, people shared pictures of high schools with crowded hallways and no masking as if to say I told you so.

Fear and bad press slowed down or canceled school re-openings elsewhere. Many large urban school districts chose not to open for in-person instruction, even in places with relatively low positivity rates. Chicago, L.A., Houston—all remote, at least so far.

It’s now October. We are starting to get an evidence-based picture of how school re-openings and remote learning are going (those photos of hallways don’t count), and the evidence is pointing in one direction. Schools do not, in fact, appear to be major spreaders of COVID-19.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/schools-arent-superspreaders/616669/
 

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Our current leaders don't follow WHO guidelines or Fauchior any other scientists it see. Problem is masks and social distancing haven't been taken seriously enough. If everyone followed those guidelines, lockdowns might not be as necessary

I think masks and social distancing have been taken seriously until around August. IMO the difference is people have finally gotten tired of staying home and have decided if they haven't caught it yet, then they probably aren't going to catch it and are going out more.
 

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Cases are going up in Indiana. Very curious to see if we stay in school much longer, especially with flu season coming up. Glad I'm not making decisions...there is no right answer.

Going up considerably. I suspect Holcomb went to Stage 5 because of the election.
 

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I think masks and social distancing have been taken seriously until around August. IMO the difference is people have finally gotten tired of staying home and have decided if they haven't caught it yet, then they probably aren't going to catch it and are going out more.

People are also seeing that if you do get it a very high percentage of people are having min. to no symptoms.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BBC | Man in US, age 25, gets Covid twice, with the 2nd infection far more dangerous than the first, doctors report. "Our findings signal that a previous infection may not necessarily protect against future infection," they said. <a href="https://t.co/fITUd45SIk">https://t.co/fITUd45SIk</a></p>— Greg Christie (@Greg0706) <a href="https://twitter.com/Greg0706/status/1315975786952830979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only one case that we know of but...
 

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I think I may have this guys. I have felt cruddy for a couple of days but no cough or fever. Tonight I have one of 100.7. I have a slight cough and my body is aching slightly even in my fingers and toes. Headache with light headedness. The odd thing is that I have a slight cool burn sensation on my shins.
I'm getting tested tomorrow morning :(

Good luck. We’re having an uptick by me. Three guys at work are currently out with it. All are doing fine (relatively young and healthy). Although one of the guy’s grandfather passed away from it recently. He was elderly and had health problems. Pretty typical.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BBC | Man in US, age 25, gets Covid twice, with the 2nd infection far more dangerous than the first, doctors report. "Our findings signal that a previous infection may not necessarily protect against future infection," they said. <a href="https://t.co/fITUd45SIk">https://t.co/fITUd45SIk</a></p>— Greg Christie (@Greg0706) <a href="https://twitter.com/Greg0706/status/1315975786952830979?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Only one case that we know of but...

Considering we’re going on about 100MM cases in the US I think something like this was expected at some point. Typically if reinfected you see lesser symptoms or asymptomatic so definitely a weird case.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a really crazy visualization <a href="https://t.co/km36MFCXxx">pic.twitter.com/km36MFCXxx</a></p>— Taylor Lorenz (@TaylorLorenz) <a href="https://twitter.com/TaylorLorenz/status/1315793901551198210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 12, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Saw this this morning. I didnt realize my state was 2nd/3rd worst from June on for so long. Any clear takeaways from this?
 
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