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zelezo vlk · May 9, 2016

Saw Captain America. Really liked it.

connor_in · May 9, 2016

Interesting article: How Captain America Became Marvel’s Big-Screen Secret Weapon

Irishnuke · May 10, 2016

Civil War was probably the best comic book movie I've ever seen. It was so f'n good.

BobbyMac · May 10, 2016

Besides the introduction and reintroduction of Black Panther and Spiderman, I thought it was thin. Still enjoyed it though.

Silverback375 · May 10, 2016

NDCrusader said:
Besides the introduction and reintroduction of Black Panther and Spiderman, I thought it was thin. Still enjoyed it though.

I wasn't overly impressed but I have been a DC guy my entire life.

IrishLion · May 10, 2016

Any of you guys that have now seen it get any parts of the same vibe that I got, that it should have been "Iron Man: Civil War" rather than "Captain America: Civil War"?

gkIrish · May 10, 2016

IrishLion said:
Any of you guys that have now seen it get any parts of the same vibe that I got, that it should have been "Iron Man: Civil War" rather than "Captain America: Civil War"?

I know what you are saying but no. If anything, it should have just been Avengers 3. But if I had to pick between Cap and Iron Man, I still think it was a Cap movie.

zelezo vlk · May 10, 2016

It was definitely a Captain America movie

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GrangerIrish24 · May 10, 2016

I'm curious if they decide to turn Thunderbolt Ross into Red Hulk down the road?

connor_in · May 10, 2016

Yes, Iron Man is a big part of the movie, but the main focus of the story is Cap. It leans to an all out Avengers movie, but that is because they do a great job of letting everyone have a reasoning or their outright say on the Sokovia Accords and why each of them comes to the decision they did. It is also why we learn that people like Clint and Natasha pick sides we might not have originally guessed for their characters at first blush

I wish we had SPOILER function to say a few other things, but oh well

IrishLion · May 10, 2016

connor_in said:
Yes, Iron Man is a big part of the movie, but the main focus of the story is Cap. It leans to an all out Avengers movie, but that is because they do a great job of letting everyone have a reasoning or their outright say on the Sokovia Accords and why each of them comes to the decision they did. It is also why we learn that people like Clint and Natasha pick sides we might not have originally guessed for their characters at first blush

I wish we had SPOILER function to say a few other things, but oh well

Is he, though?

KIND OF SPOILERS BUT NOT REALLY:

The plot is driven by Stark and his issues. Those issues connect to The Winter Soldier, which THEN connects to Cap's position.

From the beginning to the very end, it's about Cap (and others) acting upon Stark's issues. The movie itself opens with Stark, and proceeds to end with Stark reading a letter from Cap, again about Stark's issues.

This shows that Cap is a tremendous guy, sure... but the focus is on Tony Stark. Any of the other heroes on Captain's side could have narrated that letter at the end.

And that's why I think the movie's main character is actually Iron Man.

connor_in · May 10, 2016

IrishLion said:
Is he, though?

KIND OF SPOILERS BUT NOT REALLY:

The plot is driven by Stark and his issues. Those issues connect to The Winter Soldier, which THEN connects to Cap's position.

From the beginning to the very end, it's about Cap (and others) acting upon Stark's issues. The movie itself opens with Stark, and proceeds to end with Stark reading a letter from Cap, again about Stark's issues.

This shows that Cap is a tremendous guy, sure... but the focus is on Tony Stark. Any of the other heroes on Captain's side could have narrated that letter at the end.

And that's why I think the movie's main character is actually Iron Man.

I disagree slightly...

KIND OF SPOILERS BUT NOT REALLY:

Stark has issues, but I think the plot is more driven by the Sokovia Accords which Tony didn't creat but embraces because of his issues (others too). Thus he is the focus for that line of thinking. Steve is the focus for the other camp, plus his Bucky issues (and how Bucky situation relates to the villian), and Steve's personal issues.

Is that vague enough that I didn't give anything away to those who have not seen it?

connor_in · May 10, 2016

connor_in · May 20, 2016

Michael Keaton Back in Talks for Spider-Man: Homecoming

Thor: Ragnarok Cast Confirmed by Marvel Studios

GATTACA! · May 20, 2016

Guess it's official

Michael Keaton joins ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ as The Vulture

Corry · May 25, 2016

In another thread I found out Cap putts from the rough. Now this. It's a sad day for me gents.

Sure, he wears red white and blue on the outside, but on the inside? It turns out Steve Rogers, a.k.a. Captain America, supports the evil, former Nazi organization, Hydra.

Captain America Is a Hydra Agent: Marvel Editor Explains

Irishnuke · May 25, 2016

Corry said:
In another thread I found out Cap putts from the rough. Now this. It's a sad day for me gents.

Captain America Is a Hydra Agent: Marvel Editor Explains

Absolutely just a gimmick to sell comics. They've done stuff like this many times before.

gkIrish · May 25, 2016

Corry said:
In another thread I found out Cap putts from the rough. Now this. It's a sad day for me gents.

Captain America Is a Hydra Agent: Marvel Editor Explains

Irishnuke said:
Absolutely just a gimmick to sell comics. They've done stuff like this many times before.

Yea has to be a gimmick. Would be stupid on so many levels.

GATTACA! · May 25, 2016

gkIrish said:
Yea has to be a gimmick. Would be stupid on so many levels.

Even if it was true they would just retcon it in 6 months.

woolybug25 · May 25, 2016

connor_in said:
I wish we had SPOILER function to say a few other things, but oh well

This got me thinking, bear with me here, that we can.

Mod sets up a "Spoilers" thread. Give it the limitation of not showing up on the front page (I know that's a function as IE updates don't show up and many of th '18 recruits accidentally don't). Make your spoiler post in that thread. Then to post the spoiler in the right thread, use the http://spoiler url. Linking the spoiler post from the other thread.

Then all spoilers, in any thread, will just show up as a hyperlinked "Spoiler". Like how Whiskey posts articles.

Just a thought.

Domina Nostra · May 25, 2016

Irishnuke said:
Absolutely just a gimmick to sell comics. They've done stuff like this many times before.

I'm going to disagree. While you could make the argument that everything a comic book company does is intended to sell comics, these kind of story lines are more of a reflection that comics books are now by and for bored 30 year-olds who need everything to be corrupt and perverted to be worth while.

Because Superman and Captain America are anything but, they are always going to be special targets who constantly need to be reinvented and taken down a few pegs to be interesting. Everyone needs to be Batman/Wolverine.

So, for example, even though Marvel is making an absolute KILLING selling the old-fashioned Cpt. America on screen, they're going to constantly face pressure to screw him up to make things "more interesting."

DC can't resist the temptation and, as a result, is really trying hard to screw up Superman.

GATTACA! · May 25, 2016

woolybug25 said:
This got me thinking, bear with me here, that we can.

Mod sets up a "Spoilers" thread. Give it the limitation of not showing up on the front page (I know that's a function as IE updates don't show up and many of th '18 recruits accidentally don't). Make your spoiler post in that thread. Then to post the spoiler in the right thread, use the http://spoiler url. Linking the spoiler post from the other thread.

Then all spoilers, in any thread, will just show up as a hyperlinked "Spoiler". Like how Whiskey posts articles.

Just a thought.

You can always just do the white text trick. Like this.....

SPOILERS: Snape kills Dumbledore

And then whoever wants to read it can just highlight the section marked spoilers to make it show up.

GATTACA! · May 25, 2016

Domina Nostra said:
I'm going to disagree. While you could make the argument that everything a comic book company does is intended to sell comics, these kind of story lines are more of a reflection that comics books are now by and for bored 30 year-olds who need everything to be corrupt and perverted to be worth while.

Because Superman and Captain America are anything but, they are always going to be special targets who constantly need to be reinvented and taken down a few pegs to be interesting. Everyone needs to be Batman/Wolverine.

So, for example, even though Marvel is making an absolute KILLING selling the old-fashioned Cpt. America on screen, they're going to constantly face pressure to screw him up to make things "more interesting."

DC can't resist the temptation and, as a result, is really trying hard to screw up Superman.

Actually comic wise they are switching everything back to the way it used to be.

Domina Nostra · May 25, 2016

GATTACA! said:
Actually comic wise they are switching everything back to the way it used to be.

The JL director has expressed his boredom with Superman many times and refused to bring any joy to the movies.

woolybug25 · May 25, 2016

GATTACA! said:
You can always just do the white text trick. Like this.....

SPOILERS: Snape kills Dumbledore

And then whoever wants to read it can just highlight the section marked spoilers to make it show up.

GATTACA! · May 26, 2016

woolybug25 said:

Im sorry this reference went over my head, could i get a quick explanation.

woolybug25 · May 26, 2016

GATTACA! said:
Im sorry this reference went over my head, could i get a quick explanation.

Ha. She's Penelope the One Upper. It was a sketch on SNL.

GATTACA! · May 26, 2016

woolybug25 said:
Ha. She's Penelope the One Upper. It was a sketch on SNL.

Ahaa I see

IrishLion · May 26, 2016

Problem: the Spoiler text kind of shows against the grey quote box in new posts.

connor_in · May 26, 2016

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