College Athletics Branding - Name Image Likeness Rules

[notredomer23]

I can’t get over it. The contract is crazy. Essentially if the player is a bust they can recollect the money and charge up to 10% interest. Can’t get any slimier.

 

[Dale]

The funny part of a Josh Heupel offense having a 8 mil QB is……it doesn’t need one. It’s a gimmick offense that could be run effectively by many QBs. That’s like the whole point of the system (as long as you’re not Joe Milton).

 

[Irish4life]

Who do we gotta talk to about starting one of them NIL collectives?

 

[jprue24]

I can’t get over it. The contract is crazy. Essentially if the player is a bust they can recollect the money and charge up to 10% interest. Can’t get any slimier.

Incorrect. That is a draft of a different contract.

 

[irishog77]

But has Nico even committed to tennessee? Does this deal make him contractually obligated to go there now? If so, who do it now, when you can still shop NIL deals?

 

[jprue24]

No obligation, but he gets nothing if he chooses a different school.

 

[irishog77]

No obligation, but he gets nothing if he chooses a different school.

Ok, thanks. So he has a deal in place with them.

Likewise, he can set up other deals.

I don’t know a ton about Nico, but I can’t see a strong reason to go there (other than the 8 million, which is a strong incentive, no doubt). Maybe this is the now the standard set for alabama et al for an offer to beat for his sevices?

Has to make you wonder what somebody like Moore is thinking he may want as a dollar figure…and what ND can strum up?

 

[jprue24]

When this deal takes effect, he will have not be "allowed" to sign others.

edit - I'm wrong about what I said. It's a til the end of jr. year deal that pays $350K immediately. The rest pays out in escalating monthly payments once he starts school. I assume the contract voids if the player doesn't sign, but the org will be out the $350K. Player cannot sign any other NIL deals...I'm guessing until his jr. year is over. Player will have to do appearances, social media work, and "other" NIL stuff on behalf of the collective/third party

 

[ndfi78]

When this deal takes effect, he will have not be "allowed" to sign others.

edit - I'm wrong about what I said. It's a til the end of jr. year deal that pays $350K immediately. The rest pays out in escalating monthly payments once he starts school. I assume the contract voids if the player doesn't sign, but the org will be out the $350K. Player cannot sign any other NIL deals...I'm guessing until his jr. year is over. Player will have to do appearances, social media work, and "other" NIL stuff on behalf of the collective/third party

It cannot be tied to attending a specific school, so there is nothing that would prevent the QB from signing with a different school and the collective _cannot_ void the contract because of the school selected. That was one of the key points of the article, it is all being done on trust.

 

[jprue24]

I interpreted that as only apply to the initial $350k. Guessing that the player wouldn't be asked to do appearances, social media, etc. and therefore not get the monthly payments.

 

[IrishLax]

Lax, I think it was you that alluded to it in the past, but is there any indication some ND alumni/boosters will be doing one of these collectives? IPC isn’t considered one yeah?

This is all really turning me off from CFB.

ND is doing some stuff, but it’s more about taking care of players once they’re on campus rather than trying to buy them with promises up front. They’re not playing that game right now, for a lot of reasons, but they *are* showing guys how current players are going to be taken care of.

End result — kids who want “cash up front” one-sided deals are not going to get that from ND. This could result in ND losing out on a number of top rated guys that are about the money first.

But ND is likely to have a “collective” announced soon that is going to support players because they’re already individually stepping up to do a lot of that.

 

[BrownerandFry]

I can’t get over it. The contract is crazy. Essentially if the player is a bust they can recollect the money and charge up to 10% interest. Can’t get any slimier.

I buy your first three sentences.

But "Can't get any slimier." Nope, I gotta short that one.

remember this is not yet NINE months old.

A year from now I think we will look back on this current stuff as "relatively pure and innocent.

This thing will not age well.

 

[Luckylucci]

That’s just absurd. Interested to learn about what ND is planning.

 

[Dale]

 

[ab2cmiller]

So they can't hire an agent, but they can hire a NIL rep?

 

[Ndaccountant]

So they can't hire an agent, but they can hire a NIL rep?

 

[IrishLax]

So they can't hire an agent, but they can hire a NIL rep?

They can hire agents now because of NIL which is like 95% of the reason people expect stuff to go to hell in a hand basket. Their agents will ONLY be looking out for a pay day. They will literally be pushing kids to the portal to get their 10% from highest bidder.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

If I’m correct and I’m usually not I think the agents technically qualify as the required intermediary for exchange of money. The only real rules appear to be a person cannot directly pay a player and the payment cannot be to entice or oblige a player to play for a college. Other than that the student must self report to the school must self report to the NCAA. What could go wrong?

 

[NorthDakota]

If I’m correct and I’m usually not I think the agents technically qualify as the required intermediary for exchange of money. The only real rules appear to be a person cannot directly pay a player and the payment cannot be to entice or oblige a player to play for a college. Other than that the student must self report to the school must self report to the NCAA. What could go wrong?

This is gonna be a mess holy shit

 

[Irish#1]

If I’m correct and I’m usually not I think the agents technically qualify as the required intermediary for exchange of money. The only real rules appear to be a person cannot directly pay a player and the payment cannot be to entice or oblige a player to play for a college. Other than that the student must self report to the school must self report to the NCAA. What could go wrong?

Of course NCAA.

 

[ACamp1900]

This is gonna be a mess holy shit

gonna be???

 

[Blazers46]

Looking at Texas A&M's 2021 AND 2022 class. What are they doing? Is this NIL? 14 Defensive Linemen? They are going to be Transfer U soon!!

QB - 3 (includes 1 transer)
RB - 3
WR - 4
TE - 5
OL - 11
DL - 14
LB - 2
DB - 11
K - 1

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Looking at Texas A&M's 2021 AND 2022 class. What are they doing? Is this NIL? 14 Defensive Linemen? They are going to be Transfer U soon!!

QB - 3 (includes 1 transer)
RB - 3
WR - 4
TE - 5
OL - 11
DL - 14
LB - 2
DB - 11
K - 1

Sounds to me they are planning on not losing at the LoS

 

[NorthDakota]

Sounds to me they are planning on not losing at the LoS

And Notre Dame would still boss them around lol

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Dabo might be my new favorite coach in college football. I love his old school approach and focus on the degree when asked about NIL with Chris Low from ESPN:

"There's no rules, no guidance, no nothing. It's out of control. It's not sustainable. It's an absolute mess and a train wreck, and the kids are going to be the ones who suffer in the end. There are going to be a lot of kids that end up with no degrees and make decisions based on the wrong things."

 

[Chicago Domer]

There will start to be pressure put on High Schools to hire great coaches. You may see the escalation of HS coach salaries, primarily at the private schools football factories.

Poor kids who have parents with unreasonable expectations. Tons of pressure on these kids. Craziness!!!

 

[notredomer23]

I’ve noticed ND is doing some likely ad deals that are team wide— have seen a bunch of ads for Tire Rack and Therabody that feature the team. Not full NIL in the intent of it, but I’d bet a lot of these funds go to the Friends of ND fund that the players can then earn NIL bucks from. Maybe I’m completely wrong, but I’ve never seen ND football do ads like this prior to now.

 

[jprue24]

Dabo might be my new favorite coach in college football. I love his old school approach and focus on the degree when asked about NIL with Chris Low from ESPN:

"There's no rules, no guidance, no nothing. It's out of control. It's not sustainable. It's an absolute mess and a train wreck, and the kids are going to be the ones who suffer in the end. There are going to be a lot of kids that end up with no degrees and make decisions based on the wrong things."

Dabo is pissed because he no longer has an advantage with the new spring church

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Dabo is pissed because he no longer as advantage with the new spring church

This. Clemsons donor base and marketable opportunities are minuscule compared to the weight class they have been in the last five years.

 

[BrownerandFry]

Dabo might be my new favorite coach in college football. I love his old school approach and focus on the degree when asked about NIL with Chris Low from ESPN:

"There's no rules, no guidance, no nothing. It's out of control. It's not sustainable. It's an absolute mess and a train wreck, and the kids are going to be the ones who suffer in the end. There are going to be a lot of kids that end up with no degrees and make decisions based on the wrong things."

Bitches bitch
Men take action

If Dabo believes what he is saying let him go full tilt Elon Musk and put up some money.

Start a

"Coaches for sanity in NIL" Not for profit. Invite his fellow coaches to chip in.. Show leadership and testosterone.

Otherwise............