BVG Fired

Rhode Irish · Sep 17, 2016

irishfan said:
We wasted so much time on our drive down 36-14. We were poorly coached all game, but little things like taking 20 secs to get the play in stood out live. It shows just how unprepared we are. I still don't really know our offensive identity.

It's frustrating to be 1-2 when it's apparent we had more talent than Texas and MSU. I don't even think firing BVG is the answer. BK is a GOOD coach but he just isn't the guy to take us to the next level IMO.

I've never felt that way before today, but it's tough to watch ND in year 7 of BK and Louisville in year 3 of Petrino.

It took Meyer/Harbaugh one season to pass BK with his head start and that's a fact.

^this is completely on the money and agree with all of it.

Irish YJ · Sep 17, 2016

I've been anti BVG for a while, but never thought getting rid of BK was the answer. I'm rethinking. Shitty playcalling, shitty preparation, shitty all around. Sure they almost came back, but they should have NEVER been in that position in the first place. MSU is not a top 15 team. Bottom line, outprepared, outcoached, etc.

And at home. FML.

IrishJayhawk · Sep 17, 2016

Riddickulous said:
This is the worst performance of the entire Kelly era.

No. Not even close. I was at the Northwestern game.

NDRock · Sep 17, 2016

IrishJayhawk said:
No. Not even close. I was at the Northwestern game.

Me too. Took my son to his first ND game. Not sure I'll ever go back after that one.

Riddickulous · Sep 17, 2016

IrishJayhawk said:
No. Not even close. I was at the Northwestern game.

That was when we were down 36-7. It got better.

IrishJayhawk · Sep 17, 2016

Cackalacky said:
Agree. It appears that 2012 was an aberration in what is a perennial 8-5 team under Kelly. I would be happy to see everyone go.

We won 10 last year.

Junkhead · Sep 17, 2016

Isn't ND 1-4 in the past 5 games going back to last year? Ugh.

IrishLax · Sep 17, 2016

Irish Insanity said:
There where I think this time is different. We don't need to exactly 'start over.' Coaching, yes. But as far as players, we are in a lot better position than when BK took over. That's why I don't see us taking a huge step back if a change were to come.

Right, I'm not saying fire the players lol... but you can't tell me Petrino or Herman would've let that happen. Offense was completely unprepared to play, and that's supposed to be BK's calling card.

IrishJayhawk · Sep 17, 2016

Riddickulous said:
That was when we were down 36-7. It got better.

Fair enough. It was that bad at that point.

IrishJayhawk · Sep 17, 2016

Junkhead said:
Isn't ND 1-4 in the past 5 games going back to last year? Ugh.

Yeah. That's bad.

Irish Insanity · Sep 17, 2016

Junkhead said:
Isn't ND 1-4 in the past 5 games going back to last year? Ugh.

Yup. 1 win against the powerhouse Nevada.

IrishLax said:
Right, I'm not saying fire the players lol... but you can't tell me Petrino or Herman would've let that happen. Offense was completely unprepared to play, and that's supposed to be BK's calling card.

I'm agreeing with you. My statement was more to people repeatedly saying we'd be starting over, aaking if we remember the Ty and Weiss years, and so on. I'm just saying if we make a change, it won't be anything like it was then. BK has done a great job of building the program back up.

UPMich_NDfan · Sep 17, 2016

Junkhead said:
Isn't ND 1-4 in the past 5 games going back to last year? Ugh.

😱😱😳😳😤😤😩😩😲😲😨😨😦😦😣😣🤔🤔💩💩

stlnd01 · Sep 17, 2016

What gets me is we've got a lot of really good ball players. Dear Lord Morgan and Coney were men out there tonight. The Tillery we've been hoping for showed up at last. Kizer shook off a shitty stretch of series to carry us back into the game late. Etc. And credit for some of that has to go back to Kelly. Now, Van Gorder I'm probably done with. And we had some questionable moves on offense. But I still see us going 9-3 and I don't think we blow up the program over that, plateau or no.

DCirishfan · Sep 17, 2016

stlnd01 said:
What gets me is we've got a lot of really good ball players. Dear Lord Morgan and Coney were men out there tonight. The Tillery we've been hoping for showed up at last. Kizer shook off a shitty stretch of series to carry us back into the game late. Etc. And credit for some of that has to go back to Kelly. Now, Van Gorder I'm probably done with. And we had some questionable moves on offense. But I still see us going 9-3 and I don't think we blow up the program over that, plateau or no.

Blow it up

Rack Em · Sep 17, 2016

ACamp1900 said:
Lax, take a breath brother,... Come back tomorrow.

Don't listen to him. Keep posting until you get banned.

Irish YJ · Sep 17, 2016

I'd happily keep BK if we could get Bo P

At minimum, BVG needs to go. Longo too.

philipm31 · Sep 17, 2016

Sherm Sticky said:
I honestly think Kelly fires him this week

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

He won't. Sadly.

Which means Duke goes for 30+ against us next week.

Rhode Irish · Sep 17, 2016

Irish Insanity said:
I'm agreeing with you. My statement was more to people repeatedly saying we'd be starting over, aaking if we remember the Ty and Weiss years, and so on. I'm just saying if we make a change, it won't be anything like it was then. BK has done a great job of building the program back up.

Yes I agree with this. My saying "start over" was directed at the management and leadership of the program. I figured it went without saying that I'm not talking about "firing" the players. Everyone getting a salary associated with the program should be replaced. It's nothing personal and I'm not like raving mad right now, I've just finally accepted that this group isn't capable of taking the next step and I don't think waiting any longer is really going to help anything.

ShawneeIrish · Sep 18, 2016

BK called a very unimaginative game until after it was out of reach. If the D and BVG were the only problems that would be one thing but its not the case. BK is the captain of a sinking ship and the responsibility lies with him. Every year he hangs onto the job past this season is just a waste.

Bishop2b5 · Sep 18, 2016

NorthDakota said:
MSU is not really #12. This is not a good football tEames ND is playing

This is a strange season. Lots of top 20 teams aren't really what most of us would think of as top 20 (or top 10). There just aren't enough even less sucky teams you'd rank ahead of them, though. Georgia's not really a top 10 team. There just aren't 10 other teams that are better. Almost everyone is mediocre this year.

pkt77242 · Sep 18, 2016

BVG should have been fired after last year but tonight wasn't his fault. He should get at least one more week.

Sherm Sticky · Sep 18, 2016

As much as I criticized Diaco in 2013, of he gets fired this year I would welcome him back.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

ShawneeIrish · Sep 18, 2016

If WKU played ND this year I would bet 1,000 dollars on the Toppers

philipm31 · Sep 18, 2016

IrishLax said:
That was literally the worst offensive play calling I have ever seen. Kelly, Denbrock, and Sanford are little bitches for not once trying to attack vertically for an entire half+ of football and letting MSU load up to stop the run.

Even worse, all the 3 and outs and turnovers got our defense absolutely gassed. They went from not being able to run the ball... to absolutely gashing us on the ground. Why? Because the defense was stuck on the field FOREVER.

Then you finally get aggressive and it starts working... and then you try a short pass (that fails), then another short pass, then instead of calling a QB draw for an easy first down... they run another short pass play, then take a sack, then punt in a situation where anything but a 3&out and the game is over. Bunch of wimps. You win in college football by being aggressive.

Shame on all of the offensive coaches. Also, Cole Luke picked a hell of a time to have BY FAR the worst game of his career.

I think we need to re-assess the idea that Luke is a good DB. He clearly is not.

Junkhead · Sep 18, 2016

Rack Em said:
Don't listen to him. Keep posting until you get banned.

Post of the year nominee. No italics.

IrishHokie22 · Sep 18, 2016

He may make it through the rest of the season. May not. It doesn't really matter, as he won't be back next year regardless.

I wouldn't be surprised to see BK cut bait with him if the defense has another disastrous performance in the next week or two. Probably not be a terrible idea to let somebody else have a shot for the rest of this season to see what they can do.

Sherm Sticky · Sep 18, 2016

The way Kelly looked at BVG on the third down catch to Corley and what he said during the post game press conference...BVG will not make it till the end of the season.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Junkhead · Sep 18, 2016

philipm31 said:
I think we need to re-assess the idea that Luke is a good DB. He clearly is not.

He played well when teams were trying to throwing away from KVR. I have no idea why he seems so lost now. Is it the lack of any safety help?

Junkhead · Sep 18, 2016

Sherm Sticky said:
The way Kelly looked at BVG on the third down catch to Corley and what he said during the post game press conference...BVG will not make it till the end of the season.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If Kelly wants to keep his job, he needs to put the blame on someone. BVG is the easy target.

GCND · Sep 18, 2016

lotta nd pussies at the game who left early

you can shit on the coaches, the players...

but you aren't a ND fan in my book

if you leave early

FUCK you

BVG Fired

Semi-retired

Southsida

Rock Chalk

Well-known member

"That" Guy

Rock Chalk

Community Mod

Something Witty

Rock Chalk

Rock Chalk

Well-known member

Well-known member

Was away. Now returned.

New member

Community Bod

Southsida

Well-known member

Semi-retired

Well-known member

SEC Exchange Student

IPA Man

The Prophet

Well-known member

Well-known member

Community Mod

New member

The Prophet

Community Mod

Community Mod

New member