Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[NormND_44]

Not reading all this back and forth, someone provide the tldr

 

[Jeffwantpoppers]

Back to the game....LSU o-line looks bad, RBs are average, QB looks worse now than he did last year and poor half time adjustments.

I would say LSU is right on track to lose 2-4 this season. The Kelly experience.

 

[Kingbish01]

Dick rider doesn't mean encouraging or riding one's ass. Being a dick rider means to support someone to the fullest even when they don't deserve it. If your fave coach, athlete, musician, or anyone for that matter does something that turns off 95% of people....the other 5% would be considered "dick riders" For example, anyone who says BK is a big game coach would be considered a "BK dick rider" Glad to have helped!

 

[FDNYIrish1]

My apologies for the original post that sent this thread into a death spiral. BK lost another big game. And someone done lost their mind. Typical weekend I suppose.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Yeah man this went sideways in a hurry 😂

 

[Henges24]

To be clear: My pronouns are Blue, Gold and Green.

How dare you.

 

[anarin]

Since 2010
6-15 against top 10 teams
25-26 against top 25 teams

Big game BK

 

[irishnd31]

My apologies for the original post that sent this thread into a death spiral. BK lost another big game. And someone done lost their mind. Typical weekend I suppose.

I support you.......

Respectfully,
Your Dick rider

 

[fightingirish26]

No italics. F&ck you.
Mods, do you even f&cking care?
clicks > decency?

LOUDER

 

[NDPhilly]

LOUDER

^ believe this qualifies as "dick riding"

 

[fightingirish26]

^ believe this qualifies as "dick riding"

Don't care, least I don't hate people in the name of religion

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Don't care, least I don't hate people in the name of religion

Who hates people in the name of religion?


Watching LSU on Sunday was like watching ND the prior decade. They'd have starts and surges and then fail to capitalize in many big games. Did you guys see LSU, on their first possession, had like 6-7 attempts to score within the 5 and still couldn't convert? This was all quintessential Kelly.

 

[irish4ever]

Back to the game....LSU o-line looks bad, RBs are average, QB looks worse now than he did last year and poor half time adjustments.

I would say LSU is right on track to lose 2-4 this season. The Kelly experience.

I'm guessing 3 total losses (pre-Bowl of course). DEFINITELY Bama on the road and either Miss. St. or Ole Miss. which both are road games. The outlier to make it to 4 losses is the A&M played in Bayou Land at the end of the year.

 

[OKCDomer23]

Since 2010
6-15 against top 10 teams
25-26 against top 25 teams

Big game BK

Wow. That's all you need to know right there. Eye opening records.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Wow that was an entertaining few pages of reading. Thank you guys

 

[Jeffwantpoppers]

I'm guessing 3 total losses (pre-Bowl of course). DEFINITELY Bama on the road and either Miss. St. or Ole Miss. which both are road games. The outlier to make it to 4 losses is the A&M played in Bayou Land at the end of the year.

Agree. Kelly is usually good for a game that he should win but doesn't, which feels like Miss St. or Ole Miss.

I don't know anything about Auburn this year but the Gators are bad but right after Bama could be trouble. The rest of the schedule is garbage.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I wish someone in the postgame would've asked Kelly if FSU has superior facilities? Or if LSU is lacking some facilities to truly compete?

Would've given me some blood flow to my nethers.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I think the streak of LSU head coaches winning a national championship stops with our old friend here. I thought it when he was hired and what happened against FSU wasn't going to change my mind even if he had won the game. On paper he can still win a lot of games this year but he's got a couple more losses coming. Quite a few if they play the way they did on Sunday.

Saban got his, Lester was gifted a shot with a two loss SEC team in the BCS era and Coach O fell under the lucky star that was Joe Burrow. Either Kelly gets lucky or Kelly gets elite QB play at the P5 level, something he's yet to find to this point, and based on that track record I'm not entirely sure why any five star QB would hitch their wagon to him at this point.

 

[Irish#1]

Wow that was an entertaining few pages of reading. Thank you guys

I concur.

 

[forkbeard3777]

I rewatched the game yesterday - apparently I'm a glutton for punishment. It was a sloppy game by both teams, but I don't think it's the end of the world for LSU. We arguably outplayed them in the first half; however, we just couldn't capitalize when we needed to.

I said a few days before the game that our glaring weakness - the secondary - does not matchup up at all against their elite wide receivers. Let this marinate, LSU's own pre and postgame host for the LSU Sports Radio Network, Hunt Palmer, went on the record and predicted FSU to win due to this huge discrepancy. I mean, talk about blatant honesty.

The fact is, we've got transfers from South Eastern Louisiana, Marshall, and Syracuse trying to cover their elite wide receivers. That's a talent issue. This is one of our worst secondaries in decades. Sadly, it stung even more when FSU's leading wide receiver, Keon Coleman, who had 9 catches for 122 yards and 3 touchdowns is from our own backyard - Opelousas, Louisiana.

That said, we played pretty sloppy and didn't simply capitalize. LSU's run blocking was poor, we dropped key, critical passes. For example, the last play in the 3rd quarter, it's a 24-17 game, and on a 1st and 10, Brian Thomas simply drops a would be 45 yard completion that would have put us inside the FSU 10 yard line to go in for the tie. Kelly even asked, "What the hell happened?" A better thrown ball would have been 6 (assuming he caught it). The next play, Daniels throws that interception and it just snowballed after that.

In sum, they were the better team, the more physical team, and the more complete team. They outcoached us on offense, defense, and special teams. It's pretty simple; they're just better than we are.

Now, for the silver lining:

-Admittedly, I'm no Belichick, Saban, or Driskell, but I truly believe that FSU is the best team we'll play all year. I honestly think they would be Alabama. If you stuck them in the SEC, they are the 2nd best team in the league - maybes 1st (I'd have to see Georgia's QB play).
-Like ND, they've got a great, 6th year QB, their wide receivers, defensive, and offensive lines are experienced and elite. Their linebackers and secondary are plenty adequate.
-After watching the Clemson - Duke game last night, and not to take anything away from Duke and Elko (they're a legitimate top 25 team), but FSU is routing Clemson. Quickly glancing at their schedule: Southern Miss, @ BC, @ Clemson, VT, Syracuse, Duke, @ Wake, @ Pitt, Miami, North Alabama, @ Florida...I don't see one loss. I know the ACC has scrapped its divisions, but I presume their opponent in the Championship game would be UNC, Clemson (again), maybe Duke? UNC would be a good one, but again, I'm not sure FSU is losing in the regular season and ACC-Championship. Again, I'm not Saban or Coach-D, but I think they're a legitimate Playoff and championship contender.

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Belichick, Saban, or Driskell

"One of these things is not like the others..."

 

[forkbeard3777]

"One of these things is not like the others..."

Oh, I'm well aware.... That assclown would have you believe otherwise though.

 

[DONTH8]

Dick rider doesn't mean encouraging or riding one's ass. Being a dick rider means to support someone to the fullest even when they don't deserve it. If your fave coach, athlete, musician, or anyone for that matter does something that turns off 95% of people....the other 5% would be considered "dick riders" For example, anyone who says BK is a big game coach would be considered a "BK dick rider" Glad to have helped!

I was telling my wife maybe I ought to jump in and clarify the meaning of the term. Glad you did for me.

Very similar to being a "Bron-sexual" if you support LeBron over Jordan as the GOAT like me.

Maybe we should say Irishdrunk is a "Brian-sexual"?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Quite a bit of angst from LSU fans about using Perkins at middle linebacker instead of off the edge. In some ways kind of mirrors how he chose to use Jaylon. I still think back and wonder what Jaylon could've done if he spent more time blitzing and rushing the passer instead of always dropping back in coverage and containment.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Well if you're ever around and plan on being at Finns for a game, let me know and I'll buy you a beer.

Sadly, I'm in Houston now, but make it back about once a month. Still have my Saints season tix, and make it back for French Quarter Fest, JF, Hogs for the Cause, and so on. Right now, I'm looking at the Bears game in November. I'll shoot you a message. Would love to grab a beer there. Finn's is always a stopping point for me (RIP Avenue Pub), and depending how late, I tend to stumble over to 12 Mile Limit.

 

[NDohio]

I was telling my wife maybe I ought to jump in and clarify the meaning of the term. Glad you did for me.

Very similar to being a "Bron-sexual" if you support LeBron over Jordan as the GOAT like me.

Maybe we should say Irishdrunk is a "Brian-sexual"?

This thread has had some very controversial posts in it but now you have gone waaay too far...

 

[forkbeard3777]

Quite a bit of angst from LSU fans about using Perkins at middle linebacker instead of off the edge. In some ways kind of mirrors how he chose to use Jaylon. I still think back and wonder what Jaylon could've done if he spent more time blitzing and rushing the passer instead of always dropping back in coverage and containment.

I mean, he's too light to be a MLB. His skill set is rushing off the edge and getting to the QB. He's not reactionary playing the MLB. Also, if your secondary is your biggest weakness, wouldn't you want to put him on the edge to quickly get pressure on the QB? Nah...let's stick him at MLB and drop him back in pass coverage while Jordan Travis has all day to find an open WR.

Fuck, I want to go burn a heater now, and I haven't had a cigarette since January.

 

[IrishLion]

My gut feeling is that BK got a reality check of his own the other night, which he shouldn't need at this point in his career.

He took the LSU job thinking he'd have an easier road for on-field success, because of less off-field roadblocks. He's been talking about it since he left ND, and even said the quiet part out loud in regards to where LSU's money-spending priorities are.

And of course, he's right in many ways. He doesn't have to worry about academics weeding kids out. He has one of the most fertile in-state recruiting bases to lean on in the country. He's landing 5-star talent in recruiting without breaking a sweat. And he got a high-impact QB transfer that accelerated his program overhaul in year one.

I think after riding Jayden Daniels to a win over Bama and pulling out some other close contests in year one, he thought "man, I can do this SEC thing. It's really not that bad. I can do what I do and it will work out." I think he started to believe in his own program's hype, and to believe that everything will be easier for him in the SEC at LSU, after what he dealt with at ND.

Disregarding his history of big game flubs at ND, his team Sunday night looked like a team that expected to win, while FSU played the whole second half like a team that NEEDED to win.

BK has never been a motivational master. He makes his money on being calm, cool and collected, and then turning into a dickhead when he needs to get a little more out of someone. He better figure out how to do some new things at LSU, including motivating his team week-to-week, and not just for one-off moments like Bama last year.

He's a very good coach. LSU might be okay. We might even see that FSU is national-title caliber with their roster construction and Travis doing his thing, and that LSU's self-inflicted wounds were simply too much to overcome against a truly elite opponent.

But his history at ND, and his comments and demeanor since leaving, say there's a lot more at play. Can BK make more big changes this late in his career, in a place where the on-field demands are probably higher and more costly that they were at ND? Idk.

 

[ulukinatme]

BK catchin' flak for his post game interview