Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

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I also randomly just got pissed about the game at Miami in 2017
Being at the game was the worst sporting event moment of my life. Just brutal. Incredible job by their fans though, they BROUGHT IT that night.
 

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Being at the game was the worst sporting event moment of my life. Just brutal. Incredible job by their fans though, they BROUGHT IT that night.
That was one of those games between two evenly matched teams where one struck early, got all the momentum, and just didn't let up. It was like watching a fighter get nailed with a lucky punch early and just never recover. I still think if those two teams played 10 times, ND wins 5 or 6 of them.
 

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That was one of those games between two evenly matched teams where one struck early, got all the momentum, and just didn't let up. It was like watching a fighter get nailed with a lucky punch early and just never recover. I still think if those two teams played 10 times, ND wins 5 or 6 of them.
I don’t think they were evenly matched. I think ND was the better team by a margin, but they just absolutely shit themselves in that atmosphere
 

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I don’t think they were evenly matched. I think ND was the better team by a margin, but they just absolutely shit themselves in that atmosphere
You can take some comfort in the fact that every team has at least a couple of such games where you're probably the better team, you just don't show up, everything goes the other team's way, and you get embarrassed.
 

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Lived in salt lake for 18 months. Convinced it’s right in the middle of the most beautiful place in the world. But I couldn’t wait to get out cause the food (and beer) sucked. Looking back I miss all the scenery and natural beauty but man was the food awful.
 

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I don’t think they were evenly matched. I think ND was the better team by a margin, but they just absolutely shit themselves in that atmosphere
Agreed. BK and his more business approach to every game wasn’t the best mindset. Not every game is the same. That Miami game should have been a statement for ND. “Go out there and do your job and good things will happen” doesn’t work 100% of the time. Any opposing team wants to beat you and typically playing with emotion since they want to beat NOTRE DAME while you are just showing up professionally and going through the motions. I hope MFMF can tap into the emotional part of our team to bring it in the larger games that matter.
 

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That was one of those games between two evenly matched teams where one struck early, got all the momentum, and just didn't let up. It was like watching a fighter get nailed with a lucky punch early and just never recover. I still think if those two teams played 10 times, ND wins 5 or 6 of them.
Two things of note. It was obvious before kickoff that the crowd was a huge factor. Miami fed off it in pregame and Notre Dame noticeably clammed up. The only chance they had to win that game was if Wimbush doesnt overthrow the deep ball to St Brown that would been 6. As soon as that happened it was over. I also think it was Claypool maybe who dropped an easy 1st down conversion early. Notre Dame got spooked and really had no chance in that game when it was 0-0. Crazy environment.
 

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Two things of note. It was obvious before kickoff that the crowd was a huge factor. Miami fed off it in pregame and Notre Dame noticeably clammed up. The only chance they had to win that game was if Wimbush doesnt overthrow the deep ball to St Brown that would been 6. As soon as that happened it was over. I also think it was Claypool maybe who dropped an easy 1st down conversion early. Notre Dame got spooked and really had no chance in that game when it was 0-0. Crazy environment.
Emotion > professional
 

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Emotion > professional
Can't draw from that well too often without getting burned. Professional gets the job done more reliably, especially when you out- talent 90% of your opponents. Good coaches know when to press the emotional buttons, and I agree that Kelly wasn't good at that. I'd guess it had more to do with a lack of connection with his players than a slavish devotion to The Process though.
 

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This has gotta be an edit...

Wow, no, it's legit, can't believe it :laugh: Look: SEC Network completely torched Brian Kelly and his ‘family’
 

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It wouldn't shock me if his LSU career went either way. Sure, they are going to have a tough slate of games every season, but LSU can roll out of bed into a good recruiting class every year. CBK is a good to very good coach and unless he takes a total dump he will be there for a number of years. Grab an elite QB and he can run the table.
This is where I'm at. As much as I want him to see him fall flat on his face after the way he left, he's succeeded literally everywhere he's gone. It's unreasonable to expect he will fail at a school that will give him all the resources he needs to succeed, above and beyond what he even had at ND.

I don't think he gets LSU to a point where they're beating Bama and Georgia on a regular basis, I think BK will continue to struggle with those big games, but I think he gets them to perennial 10 wins within a couple of years.

Hope I'm wrong
 

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LSU has all the talent they just need some
This is where I'm at. As much as I want him to see him fall flat on his face after the way he left, he's succeeded literally everywhere he's gone. It's unreasonable to expect he will fail at a school that will give him all the resources he needs to succeed, above and beyond what he even had at ND.

I don't think he gets LSU to a point where they're beating Bama and Georgia on a regular basis, I think BK will continue to struggle with those big games, but I think he gets them to perennial 10 wins within a couple of years.

Hope I'm wrong
This right here.
LSU has all the talent. They need someone to put in place the systems to make the most of it. Like him or not that's BK's wheelhouse and he's been working on it for 30 years. Is that professionalism enough to get them over the hump to beat Bama and Georgia? I don't know. But they'll consistently clean up on the SEC middleweights and win 10 games or so a year. I'd bet on that.
 

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Right now it's food, family and playing football somewhere else in the 2023 class.
 

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I could see it not working out for personality reasons, a la Bielama in Arkansas. Hell, it's happening to Bryan Harsin right now.
 

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I could see it not working out for personality reasons, a la Bielama in Arkansas. Hell, it's happening to Bryan Harsin right now.
Gonna go out on a limb and say BK is a far better politician than Bielema, and far more used to the big stage and the pressures that come with it than Harsin.
 

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Gonna go out on a limb and say BK is a far better politician than Bielema, and far more used to the big stage and the pressures that come with it than Harsin.
He also doesn’t have boosters who will make up rumors about him cheating on his wife with a staffer in order to try and get him fired.
 

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Michael Mayer recently said BK was not present in the summer at all. MF is everywhere including drills and gatherings etc.

Paraphrasing of course.
 

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This is where I'm at. As much as I want him to see him fall flat on his face after the way he left, he's succeeded literally everywhere he's gone. It's unreasonable to expect he will fail at a school that will give him all the resources he needs to succeed, above and beyond what he even had at ND.

I don't think he gets LSU to a point where they're beating Bama and Georgia on a regular basis, I think BK will continue to struggle with those big games, but I think he gets them to perennial 10 wins within a couple of years.

Hope I'm wrong
You're definitely not wrong. LSU is super dysfunctional, and implementing "systems" is BK's bread and butter. Lots of low hanging fruit there for him to pluck and then point to as a "See, I did that!"

The problem is that, based on LSU's and BK's own stated definitions of "success," that won't be enough. Regularly winning 9-10 games in the SEC-W would be a step up for them, but if BK isn't beating Saban and getting out to the conference championship game soon, his leash is gonna get real short. And after all the garbage he spouted about finally getting to coach real talent and compete for titles, he'll deserve each and every stone slung his way.
 

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I dont think BK is a good cultural fit for Baton Rouge, Louisiana. If he is a great success, I can see them dealing with it but short of that, I feel the patience for him will wear out very quickly. The arrogance and lack of taking any accountability when things go bad wont go over well. LSU fans wont be good with beating the MS teams and getting railroaded by the Bamas and Floridas of the SEC.
 

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Kelly will have success by default. As much as we ten to loathe him now, he has the track record. The only thing that can sink him is if he does something stupid to alienate the players, fans or admin.
 

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Kelly will have success by default. As much as we ten to loathe him now, he has the track record. The only thing that can sink him is if he does something stupid to alienate the players, fans or admin.
When hasnt BK done this at any stops? Has he ever accepted blame or held himself accountable?
 

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That was one of those games between two evenly matched teams where one struck early, got all the momentum, and just didn't let up. It was like watching a fighter get nailed with a lucky punch early and just never recover. I still think if those two teams played 10 times, ND wins 5 or 6 of them.
Completely disagree with this. That Miami team was nowhere near the level of ND that year. They had no business being in that game, let alone winning, or winning the way they did. Look at all the metrics over the course of that season leading up to that game and you'll see ND was straight obliterating opposing teams....good ones. That game was textbook BK business like approach failing to get a team prepared for a nightmarish road game at night against a quality opponent who absolutely hates you. If that game gets played 10 times, I'll take the over at 7.5. That roster was loaded and should never have found themselves in that position. The staff basically backed away from their previous gameplanning at the first sign of adversity. It was embarrassing (yet, that staff had a history of doing that)

Can't draw from that well too often without getting burned. Professional gets the job done more reliably, especially when you out- talent 90% of your opponents. Good coaches know when to press the emotional buttons, and I agree that Kelly wasn't good at that. I'd guess it had more to do with a lack of connection with his players than a slavish devotion to The Process though.

100%. People take for granted all the games ND won when they were supposed to win over the last 5 years. BK's approach provided consistency. But that's not enough when it comes to big games. You need more intangibles. His staffs usually lacked at being able to push those buttons, like you said.
 

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By 2023 and 2024, the LSU Chef may not save BK. The fans will get upset if he doesn't have a Natty by year 3. Unlike ND, they will fire him or buy him out at some point for not winning a Natty.
 
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