BCS Rankings: 2012

[BGIF]

Buckeyes are on probation.

If they go undefeated all they get is Gold Pants and tats for everybody.

 

[ARALOU]

If you are on probation I think you shouldn't even be ranked, in any poll, for the duration of the probation. It should be like you don't exist. If the sanctions are severe.

 

[GoldenBoy3]

Oregon still has some very tugh games against USC and Oregon State. So hopefully USC can knock them off making a win versus USC bigger

 

[phork]

It just boils down to 2 things keeping us out. Oregon & KSU winning out. LSU beating Bama doesn't mean that LSU jumps us. We just have to take care of business and hope they both lose. Or Bama as well. ND at 39% to be undefeated is almost as ridiculous as Oregon only being 20%. Not sure how these percentages are calc'd.

 

[drayer54]

So, he's a badass. So, he's the Heisman candidate du jour.


Golson STILL put up more Total Yds against OU than your badass, didn't he?



Quote:
Originally Posted by Patulski

1) I would rather see Manti win it.
2) That doesn't take away from Collin Klein being a badass.

He's fun to watch and doing a stellar job of that smash mouth offense. I would love to see him and the Irish front face off (even though I want to beat BAMA for the credibility) in a big dance showdown.

 

[woolybug25]

It just boils down to 2 things keeping us out. Oregon & KSU winning out. LSU beating Bama doesn't mean that LSU jumps us. We just have to take care of business and hope they both lose. Or Bama as well.

I still don't believe the talking heads that we wouldn't jump KSU and that Oregon would stay behind. We don't live in a vacuum, the public opinion of all of the teams will drastically change from what it is today whether someone loses or not. Notre Dame is the team with the most experience drumming support from their peers. Christ, we have stayed independent this long, why does everyone think that we can't campaign our way into the game?

Doesn't matter though, the statistical likelyhood of all four teams winning out is as likely as Johnnykillz changing his underwear... not gonna happen.

 

[philipm31]

Weak in, weak out.

I hate spellcheckers ...


(but like dshans!)

Seeing as how he is a journalist, he should actually be able to know the difference between an Adjective (WEAK) and a noun (WEEK).

But the point is well-taken.

 

[ulukinatme]

I still don't believe the talking heads that we wouldn't jump KSU and that Oregon would stay behind. We don't live in a vacuum, the public opinion of all of the teams will drastically change from what it is today whether someone loses or not. Notre Dame is the team with the most experience drumming support from their peers. Christ, we have stayed independent this long, why does everyone think that we can't campaign our way into the game?

Doesn't matter though, the statistical likelyhood of all four teams winning out is as likely as Johnnykillz changing his underwear... not gonna happen.

Murphy's Law though...if it was ever going to happen with 4 undefeated teams, this would be the year to screw us.

 

[PraetorianND]

Notre Dame Fighting Irish present attractive option to BCS bowls, officials say - ESPN

SOUTH BEND, Ind. -- Some BCS officials are almost as giddy about the prospect of Notre Dame playing in one of their bowls games as Fighting Irish fans are.

"I tend to think right now, there's a lot to be played, but I don't see how they could avoid being in a BCS game somewhere," Fiesta Bowl executive director Robert Shelton said. "They have four games left. Anything can happen, but they're looking so strong. Even if they only win two of those, certainly if they win three or four, they will be in a BCS game."

The fourth-ranked Fighting Irish (8-0) are third in the BCS standings heading into their game against Pittsburgh (4-4) on Saturday, where they are 16.5-point favorites. They likely will be favored against Boston College (2-6) and Wake Forest (4-4) before the season finale at Southern California (6-2).

Officials with the Fiesta, Rose, Orange and Sugar bowls all say they will consider the Irish under the right circumstances, primarily that they meet the minimum requirements of nine victories and being among the top 14 teams in the final BCS standings. Notre Dame would prefer not being an at-large team, hoping instead to finish in the top two and earn a shot at the school's first national championship since 1988 in the BCS title game Jan. 7 in Miami.

Irish players say it would be hard to believe they wouldn't get a shot if they remain undefeated. If it happens, though, they say they would have to accept it.

"I can't do anything about it," linebacker Carlo Calabrese said. "I just have to go out and perform in whatever bowl game we're in."

Coach Brian Kelly said he's not paying attention to all the BCS possibilities, saying he's leaving that to others. Kelly, who narrowly missed qualifying for the national championship game while at Cincinnati in 2009, said he doesn't plan to try to lobby for the Irish.

"I got out of politics once. I'm not getting back in it," he said.

Shelton made it clear that the Fiesta Bowl, where the Irish played following the 2000 and 2005 seasons, would love to host them again.

"There are a number of schools that have national followings but none of them really to the extent of Notre Dame. There are a lot of Notre Dame lovers here in the valley and probably some of those who would vote against Notre Dame, too. But that shows you have a national brand," he said.

Kevin Ash, chief administrative officer of the Rose Bowl, said its first choice is always to pit a Big Ten team against a Pac-12 team. But he said if Oregon ends up going to the national championship game and another Pac-12 team isn't eligible, the Irish would be an attractive choice in part because of its history. Knute Rockne guided a Notre Dame squad that featured the Four Horsemen to a 27-10 victory over Pop Warner and Stanford in 1925, the only bowl game the Irish played in until 1970.

"There's a lot of lore for the Rose Bowl game and Notre Dame is part of that. So they're already part of our family. They're a very celebrated team with a large fan following and they're playing great football again," Ash said.

Sugar Bowl spokesman John Sudsbury wasn't quite as effusive, but said the bowl committee would "look very close at them" if Notre Dame is eligible. Sudbury said a team with a storied past like Notre Dame's wouldn't necessarily have an advantage.

"Sometimes we like a team that is making a new name for itself or hasn't been in our bowl before," Sudsbury said. "It can help them. It's definitely a factor that we look at. But I'm not saying that would give them weight over somebody that doesn't have the same history."

Orange Bowl spokesman Larry Wahl said because his bowl has the last pick this year he doesn't believe the Irish would still be available. Asked whether he thought a two-loss Notre Dame team could be attractive, Wahl said: "Who knows? There could be a lot of two-loss teams."

"There's so much football that's yet to be played that you just don't know what's going to happen," he said.

 

[dshans]

It's encouraging to see that others pay attention, take note, know better and comment. Spell-check is one tool but proof reading is a must, especially when dealing with homophones and punctuation.
That "amateurs" posting on message boards slip now and then or don't give a damn is understandable. That "professionals,'" be it in print or on an internet blog, don't avail themselves of ready help is not only sloppy but sad.

Rankings and pairings in BCS-world involve the dispassionate ratings of a computer model, the emotional ratings of sports writers and the self interest of coaches with conference ties. Probable television revenue plays a shadow yet influential role. Win 'em all and let the many chips fall where they may.

GO IRISH!

 

[ickythump1225]

It's encouraging to see that others pay attention, take note, know better and comment. Spell-check is one tool but proof reading is a must, especially when dealing with homophones and punctuation.
That "amateurs" posting on message boards slip now and then or don't give a damn is understandable. That "professionals,'" be it in print or on an internet blog, don't avail themselves of ready help is not only sloppy but sad.

Rankings and pairings in BCS-world involve the dispassionate ratings of a computer model, the emotional ratings of sports writers and the self interest of coaches with conference ties. Probable television revenue plays a shadow yet influential role. Win 'em all and let the many chips fall where they may.

GO IRISH!

I wish the computers weighed heavier in the formula. I'm not just saying that because it helps the Irish this year but computers are objective and are not swayed by money, bias, regional ties, or conference affiliations. Also computers don't swoon over destroying Missouri, Savannah St., or dropping 70 on Colorado.

 

[ACamp1900]

I'll wait to worry about this until the Irish win out and still aren't in the top two... I doubt that will happen (either the win out OR winning out and not getting a title game spot)...

I think the chances that all four teams win out are so low that it is not even worth planning for

 

[PraetorianND]

I'll wait to worry about this until the Irish win out and still aren't in the top two... I doubt that will happen (either the win out OR winning out and not getting a title game spot)...

I think the chances that all four teams win out are so low that it is not even worth planning for

I'll be really stressed out about it going into USC if KSU and Oregon are still undefeated too.

 

[stlnd01]

Saw an interesting stat today (can't remember where or I'd link to it).
Of the top ten teams in the BCS standings on Nov. 1, 2011, eight lost games they were favored to win before the end of the season.
This will work itself out.

 

[Cackalacky]

Pre-BCS, ND would be number 2 now. Like wooly said, there is no way ND is not getting in the ears of coaches and AP pollsters and lobbying the **** out of them.

"Psst. Imagine the ratings on an Alabma ND champ game."
Think about the advertising revenue of that game.....domestically it could be on par with the Super Bowl...."

Of course ND needs to win out. I think LSU/Alabama game will be a good one but Bama comes out in front. I am a huge LSU and USC fan this weekend.

What about the ACC? Do they start favoring ND in the polls more, being they could possibly be bringing a national title contender into the fold ( no matter the affiliation?)....

 

[Black Irish]

It's encouraging to see that others pay attention, take note, know better and comment. Spell-check is one tool but proof reading is a must, especially when dealing with homophones and punctuation.
That "amateurs" posting on message boards slip now and then or don't give a damn is understandable. That "professionals,'" be it in print or on an internet blog, don't avail themselves of ready help is not only sloppy but sad.

Rankings and pairings in BCS-world involve the dispassionate ratings of a computer model, the emotional ratings of sports writers and the self interest of coaches with conference ties. Probable television revenue plays a shadow yet influential role. Win 'em all and let the many chips fall where they may.

GO IRISH!

Your so wright

 

[koonja]

It's encouraging to see that others pay attention, take note, know better and comment. Spell-check is one tool but proof reading is a must, especially when dealing with homophones and punctuation.
That "amateurs" posting on message boards slip now and then or don't give a damn is understandable. That "professionals,'" be it in print or on an internet blog, don't avail themselves of ready help is not only sloppy but sad.

Rankings and pairings in BCS-world involve the dispassionate ratings of a computer model, the emotional ratings of sports writers and the self interest of coaches with conference ties. Probable television revenue plays a shadow yet influential role. Win 'em all and let the many chips fall where they may.

GO IRISH![/QUOTE]

And they say you just post about grammar!

 

[Redbar]

It's encouraging to see that others pay attention, take note, know better and comment. Spell-check is one tool but proof reading is a must, especially when dealing with homophones and punctuation.
That "amateurs" posting on message boards slip now and then or don't give a damn is understandable. That "professionals,'" be it in print or on an internet blog, don't avail themselves of ready help is not only sloppy but sad.

Rankings and pairings in BCS-world involve the dispassionate ratings of a computer model, the emotional ratings of sports writers and the self interest of coaches with conference ties. Probable television revenue plays a shadow yet influential role. Win 'em all and let the many chips fall where they may.

GO IRISH!

You can right that in stone.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Remember that the AP doesn't factor into the BCS.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

College football - Alabama Crimson Tide, LSU Tigers, Oregon Ducks, USC Trojans will bring calm or chaos to BCS national championship race - ESPN

My problem: While Oregon vs USC is a huge game, if Oregon wins they will get more hype and most likely a bump in rankings. Later when ND plays USC, the hype will still be there, but when ND beats them people will say, "Well this is a bad Trojan team this year. ND is still overrated." Read the tea leaves people. USC is not a good football team this year. So WHEN Oregon runs up the score on them, don't crown them BCS champs just yet.

If LSU knocks off Alabama tomorrow, you can count on their being controversy in the Beau. The SEC front loads their schedules with cupcakes so they can achieve or sustain high rankings. Then when they play each other, the losing team doesn't drop significantly because they lost to a "top SEC team." C'mon. Wake up. While the SEC has proven dominant over the years, I don't by for a minute that they're unbeatable. If LSU wins, I won't be the least bit surprised to see LSU make a push and Bama barely fall. A one-loss SEC team still looks dominant against most other teams, but it's not always the case and I'm tired of them getting the benefit of the doubt.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Quite funny

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[IrishLax]

Some odds for this weekend from Vegas...
Alabama win: 75%
Oregon win: 75%
KSU win: 75%
ND win: 91%

Odds of at least one of the non-ND teams losing: 58%
Odds of a team losing + ND wins = good weekend: 53%
Odds of all teams losing + ND Wins = 1%

Let's go math!

 

[mick2]

Some odds for this weekend from Vegas...
Alabama win: 75%
Oregon win: 75%
KSU win: 75%
ND win: 91%

Odds of at least one of the non-ND teams losing: 58%
Odds of a team losing + ND wins = good weekend: 53%
Odds of all teams losing + ND Wins = 1%

Let's go math!

I think it's going to happen! haha Go Irish!

 

[JT_IRISH]

BCS would consider 2-loss Notre Dame team - NCAA Football - SI.com

I guess this would be a worst case scenario.

 

[Rocky2820]

On Gameday, Corso just said ND should be #1 in the country due to our tough schedule thus far. Desmond agreed for the most part, and said we should be #2 behind Bama. Herbie had us at #3 behind Bama and KSU.

Overall, loving that love. Corso in particular took a shot at Bama's early cupcake schedule.

 

[Martibhoy]

LSU Win
KAnsas State Win
USC Win
Irish Win
Took me an hour for a bookies over here tae take that bet

 

[PraetorianND]

On Gameday, Corso just said ND should be #1 in the country due to our tough schedule thus far. Desmond agreed for the most part, and said we should be #2 behind Bama. Herbie had us at #3 behind Bama and KSU.

Overall, loving that love. Corso in particular took a shot at Bama's early cupcake schedule.

Sadly Corso was almost incoherent

SU Win
KAnsas State Win
USC Win
Irish Win
Took me an hour for a bookies over here tae take that bet

I think LSU and OSU win.

 

[ARALOU]

Bout time someone noticed. Bama may be the best team in the all the land but they sure have yet to play anyone. LSU is not what they were last year

 

[PraetorianND]

Bout time someone noticed. Bama may be the best team in the all the land but they sure have yet to play anyone. LSU is not what they were last year

Playing in death valley at night is brutal. I really don't want to play Oregon though....

 

[PraetorianND]

What? Dont want to play Oregon? I would want to play any of the top 5. Your vagina hurt or something?

Yes, my vagina hurts.

I'd rather play KSU or Bama.