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[Irish YJ]

Johnny, if you have the time, good post by BGIF that provides some context. Click into his post if you want to see what he was replying to. Why you so lazy...?

Political conversation has been a part of this board since it was started in the early days. IrishEnvy was not started just to be a football board.

Over the years there has been sparks now and then between particular posters but usually through the influence of the moderators that was kept in check. Those that didn't get the message after repeated warnings got to post elsewhere.

It's only been since October 2016 that "the mostly divisive garbage/bitching/moaning" really took off in attempt stifle any dialog. Those unhappy with the result of that election took to the board with Strzok like messages, in essence, "We'll stop it!" and if we can't stop it we'll get any discussion removed from the boards.

For the first time in the history of IE political discussion was relegated to a back room because the triggered crowd needed a "safe space". Yet there had been always a safe space, one had to go to the Leprechaun Lounge to read those kind of topics, and if they didn't want to read them, they didn't NOT have to CLICK on the title. And what onerous titles they are:

"Politics" started by BobD in 2012
"2016 Presidential Horse Race" started by DomeX2 eNVy in Nov 2014
"Liberalism & Conservatism" started by that master troller WhiskeyJack in Jan 2015
"Foreign Policy" started by WhiskeyJack in Jan 2015
"Immigration" (About Germany not the U.S) started by Calvegas04 in Feb 2016
"Healthcare" started by Legacy in April 2016
"Police State USA" started by LAX in Apr 2015
"Feminism" started by IrishinFL in Aug 2015
"Culture" started by WhiskeyJack in May 2016
"Trump Presidency" started by BGIF in Nov 2016
"Racism" started by Cackalacky in Apr 2017
"Another Shooting" started by Son of Oahu in Nov 2017
"2018 Midterm Elections" started by Buster Bluth in 2018

One of the earliest political posts was "I'm becoming a democrat" by StoneBreakerwasgod in April of 2007 ... 11 years ago.

Yet in the past year, those titles became onerous to the tiggered crowd if they appeared OMG on the front page. The same page they appeared for more than a dozen years. They had to be segregated to "hidden" space, the "Political Threads" because of complaints of a few that couldn't stand to see the name "Trump", the word "Feminism, or whatever they didn't agree with. If you don't want to read about it, don't click on the topic.



According to the front page there are over 69,000 members of IE, I suspect that includes 50,000 or so bots. The IE Membership List shows a lot less.

As for those "long standing posters that are worth their weight in gold" ... the membership lists about 300 with 1,000 or so posts. Of those 3,000 about 50-75 left back in 2007 -2008 when the board changed ownership. Another 50 or so were banned over the years. Another 50-75 (or more) like WabashFalcon and Praetorian moved on with family/career demands or maybe they just outgrew us. Everybody gets older but some stay immature forever.

Point is, there are probably about 100 or less regular posters on IE perhaps more in the neighborhood of 50. Some post in a variety of threads, most stay in a few areas such as football and recruiting. Sorry, greyhammer but despite your misconception "only the trolls ... remain" is patently false. The mods for years have dealt with that issue. Posters who were funny but foul mouthed, or bigoted, or just asses are gone. Sadly some good posters in sports topics couldn't carry the same level of conversation in other topics, be they the segregated political topics, or just chit chat.

Their inability to carry on a reasonable conservation without spilling their bowels verbally was not the fault of others not of the topics. It was their own. Buster got to the point where he could not discuss any topic without insulting the intelligence of anyone who didn't see things his way on any topic. His M.O. became rant by ad hominem.

That's not the fault of the topic, that's the fault of the poster. Some posters in their zeal for their point of view posted tweets from bloggers who simply took a headline and rewrote it for sensationalism, with little or no substance. Frequently posting a host of "articles" (one line tweets by different twits) trying to demonstrate overwhelming news when all it was, was circular regurgitating. When someone pointed that out, retorts were hurled of racist, bigot, Nazi, communist, neocon, liberal, libertarian, or any other ism to disparage the poster. Again that's not the fault of a topic, that's the fault of posters incapable of making a viable argument.

Shutting down threads because a few posters have hissy fits and are intolerant of others, whatever their viewpoint, is wrong. Chastise or punish the miscreants not those who behave.

And for the record, I'm a lifelong GDI, God Damn Independent. I piss off both the left and the right with regularity.

 

[drayer54]

Or remove the politics threads and make this board only about football and tacos as god intended.

and the Gentlemen's Club.

 

[NDdomer2]

Purely my opinion, but I think Praet is just being practical based on PMs from him. I bet he lurks from afar. Great guy and hated to see him go.

Probably a healthy choice for Cack, as I think he's unable right now to stay out of the politics side. I hope he comes back during football season.

Buster, I didn't see much activity from him outside of the political threads, so not sure how much of a draw IE is for all things football. I'd bet he's got other outlets (boards) for his political passions.

Iirc buster took a leave of absence not too long ago when his real identity was outed as a city politician.

 

[SonofOahu]

Purely my opinion, but I think Praet is just being practical based on PMs from him. I bet he lurks from afar. Great guy and hated to see him go.

Probably a healthy choice for Cack, as I think he's unable right now to stay out of the politics side. I hope he comes back during football season.

My gripe with Praetorian was that, like you, he couldn't pick a side! He posted like he had no conviction on issues. Ambiguity is fairly maddening, to me. At least jump in an argument and go for it.

I hope Cack throws in some comments in the "Drinking" thread. That dude is a fellow fan of whisky.

 

[SonofOahu]

and the Gentlemen's Club.

I almost never ventured out of the football forums, during the 10-or-so years I lurked. What is this "Gentlemen's Club" and why did it ever go away?

 

[johnnycando]

I almost never ventured out of the football forums, during the 10-or-so years I lurked. What is this "Gentlemen's Club" and why did it ever go away?

Had to know someone on the inside to enter.

It was a club for gentlemen. (Bewbs galore).

 

[Irish YJ]

My gripe with Praetorian was that, like you, he couldn't pick a side! He posted like he had no conviction on issues. Ambiguity is fairly maddening, to me. At least jump in an argument and go for it.

I hope Cack throws in some comments in the "Drinking" thread. That dude is a fellow fan of whisky.

I'm going to reply to the first part of your post in the politics thread because LAX is trying keep this thread free of the political topics.

Whiskey (all kinds) is something we can agree on my friend. Would love to crack a bottle of Scotch with you, Cack, and PKT. I've cracked brews with Cack, but never a fine whiskey.

I have this still in virgin status.

 

[Irish YJ]

Iirc buster took a leave of absence not too long ago when his real identity was outed as a city politician.

While he is a politician in OH, I don't believe the politician identified was Buster. At least that's what a poster claimed (who had met him) via PM to me. IDK...

 

[Irish YJ]

I almost never ventured out of the football forums, during the 10-or-so years I lurked. What is this "Gentlemen's Club" and why did it ever go away?

Soon after I got the secret handshake, the GC was dismantled.

 

[ickythump1225]

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[ickythump1225]

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[johnnycando]

I like this game.

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[Irish YJ]

I like this game.

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It's very entertaining isn't it.

 

[johnnycando]

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[Irish YJ]

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[Andy in Sactown]

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[IrishLion]

The next person that uses punctuation marks out of context is getting permabanned.

 

[greyhammer90]

The next person that uses punctuation marks out of context is getting permabanned.

GB never stood a chance

 

[Bishop2b5]

Seems relevant to this thread. As a great philosopher once said,

After all is said and done
I gotta move while it's still fun
I'm gonna walk before they make me run

 

[NDdomer2]

GB never stood a chance

LOL

 

[Ndaccountant]

Seems relevant to this thread. As a great philosopher once said,

After all is said and done
I gotta move while it's still fun
I'm gonna walk before they make me run

 

[zelezo vlk]

Seems relevant to this thread. As a great philosopher once said,

After all is said and done
I gotta move while it's still fun
I'm gonna walk before they make me run

One of the greatest

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[Irish YJ]

 

[SonofOahu]

Had to know someone on the inside to enter.

It was a club for gentlemen. (Bewbs galore).

Soon after I got the secret handshake, the GC was dismantled.

YJ was the narc that got the club shut down!

 

[SonofOahu]

I'm going to reply to the first part of your post in the politics thread because LAX is trying keep this thread free of the political topics.

Whiskey (all kinds) is something we can agree on my friend. Would love to crack a bottle of Scotch with you, Cack, and PKT. I've cracked brews with Cack, but never a fine whiskey.

I have this still in virgin status.

LAX said OT political posts, the Praetorian discussion was more about him than his politics.

That bottle is sweet. The housing looks like a viking ship, which I assume was the original intent.

 

[Irish YJ]

YJ was the narc that got the club shut down!

no way. snitches get stitches from my hood.
and i believe that titties can save the world.

 

[Irish YJ]

LAX said OT political posts, the Praetorian discussion was more about him than his politics.

That bottle is sweet. The housing looks like a viking ship, which I assume was the original intent.

I just wanted to do my part and move over to the other thread lol.

On the Scotch... Yup. It's from their Valhalla collection. I drank the Odin, still have the Freya (the pic). Pricey, but cool, and extremely tasty.

 

[Bishop2b5]

One of the greatest

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This is one of my go-to/pick me up/get in a good mood songs. I got to see him & The Stones do this live in '89. You can never have too much Keef.

 

[ulukinatme]

An awful lot of support for the GC here...I still wanna know who shut it down (Both times!) We were damn careful to keep things respectable in there (Models only, no celebs, Playboy classy). It was locked down, only people that wanted in got access. I'm on four other football boards and they all have their own version of the GC, and most are far less tame than ours was (The Texas board had an ex-wifes/ex-gf nudes thread, a thread where they ranked Texas female inmates by mug shot, a Plenty of Fish conquests thread, the Fappening celeb stuff, nothing is off limits lol). I thought I recall someone saying a long time ago that whoever owned IE also owned BuckeyePlanet and they have their own version of the GC too which was also more risque than ours.