All Things SkunkBear

[notredomer23]

I hate that not only does Harbaugh get to leave and look like a martyr, but he doesn't have to feel the pain of the losses that Michigan is about to endure. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he sees what's coming (schedule wise, not even suspension) and realizes he needs to get out. They're going to have 15-18 draft picks. They also are going to lose a ton of veterans that were able to stay because of COVID years. They're going to be starting freaking Greg Crippen next year that's how dire it's about to be. A regression to their pre-2021 season is coming fast.

6 of their top 7 offensive linemen were grad students and the 7th (Zinter) is going to the NFL. Have fun replacing that.

 

[pumpdog20]

I thought I heard somewhere that if the NCAA brings sanctions and suspends Harbaugh, that the NFL will honor the suspension?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I thought I heard somewhere that if the NCAA brings sanctions and suspends Harbaugh, that the NFL will honor the suspension?

You are correct. I remember reading that the NFL said that if any team hires him, they will make it hurt.

The NFL isn’t the NCAA. They would actually make it hurt if that was true.


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[Lberry]

Any chance Harbaugh stays now that he's won? I imagine the pull to enjoy the parade for a year at your alma matter is strong..

Hard to do this and leave 1 week later and be completely disconnected from everyone worshiping you.

 

[Irish#1]

You can fire him. Spite is an acceptable reason.


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I was thinking about firing him for creating a hostile work environment.

 

[ulukinatme]

Pretty much. Harbaugh is also going to quit now so he can escape accountability and run his mouth about being "innocent."

Yup. He already has started pushing the innocence narrative. This is what he said last night apparently.
"It went exactly how we wanted it to go to win every game," Harbaugh said Monday night after No. 1 Michigan defeated No. 2 Washington 34-13. "The off-the-field issues, we're innocent and we stood strong and tall because we knew we were innocent. And I'd like to point that out. "These guys are innocent. Overcome that ... it wasn't that hard because we knew we were innocent."

 

[irish4ever]

Yup. He already has started pushing the innocence narrative. This is what he said last night apparently.
"It went exactly how we wanted it to go to win every game," Harbaugh said Monday night after No. 1 Michigan defeated No. 2 Washington 34-13. "The off-the-field issues, we're innocent and we stood strong and tall because we knew we were innocent. And I'd like to point that out. "These guys are innocent. Overcome that ... it wasn't that hard because we knew we were innocent."

 

[irish4ever]

Sorry, I sent the above without putting my response to what HAIRbaugh has to say ... outside of the meatchicken fanbase, would anyone believe this mutherfuckin' PRICK!?

 

[greyhammer90]

If you find yourself saying the phrase "we're innocent" 3 times or more at your own trophy presentation, it's already over

 

[RipWheeler]

If you find yourself saying the phrase "we're innocent" 3 times or more at your own trophy presentation, it's already over

In my line of work we call that a clue. It’s equivalent to “These aren’t my pants”.

 

[stlnd01]

Any chance Harbaugh stays now that he's won? I imagine the pull to enjoy the parade for a year at your alma matter is strong..

Hard to do this and leave 1 week later and be completely disconnected from everyone worshiping you.

True. But between their (much tougher) schedule, what they’re losing on the roster, and whatever the NCAA does to them, next season will be a pretty lousy parade.
He probably should go while he’s on top.

 

[IrishLax]

This is kinda wild. This hasn't happened before in the CFP era. It's common to get one "bad" or "mediocre" team in the top 4 but instead this year was littered by mediocre teams that had fortunate results during the season.

In Washington's case -- you don't play 10 straight one score games if you're "good." The numbers bear that out, they finished 9th in advanced stats. Neither Texas or Bama were top 5 teams either. Texas got in because of a wing at Bama... who beat Georgia.

Georgia and Oregon were the two best performing teams this year besides Michigan. Both of them lost conference title games. The playoff likely would've been Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, FSU/Texas/Washington/Ohio State (???) if Oregon and Georgia had taken care of business. But that's why you play the games!

 

[Blazers46]

ND should not have "cooperated," or whatever, with the NCAA. That's the lesson of the UNC episode.

From my understanding the UNC lack of punishment wasn’t about them denying but more about the fake classes not necessarily benefiting only student athletes but all students that took those “classes”. That even though the classes were fake and UNC knew it that it wouldn’t make any student athlete ineligible or tainted in any way. Since UNC wasn’t declaring any kids ineligible it was more of a dept of education issue not ncaa issue. Something like that…

 

[Old Man Mike]

I was interested as to where Michigan got its BIGS. A subconscious narrative has been that unless you are Ohio State and regularly get NFL HOF pass rushers, you cannot beat "The South" (GA,AL,CLEMSON,LSU) unless you get The South's Dline monsters. Michigan had a couple of guys from GA on the roster, but they got most of their muscle from Michigan itself and NJ/MA/CT area plus IL. That sounds like that should be ND territory. Are we being outrecruitied in those old ND areas, or are we being outguessed and then outdeveloped? Michigan had more guys who looked like NFL war daddy space eaters at DT than I think I've ever seen at MI or OSU (or anywhere else in the North.)

 

[Blazers46]

I was interested as to where Michigan got its BIGS. A subconscious narrative has been that unless you are Ohio State and regularly get NFL HOF pass rushers, you cannot beat "The South" (GA,AL,CLEMSON,LSU) unless you get The South's Dline monsters. Michigan had a couple of guys from GA on the roster, but they got most of their muscle from Michigan itself and NJ/MA/CT area plus IL. That sounds like that should be ND territory. Are we being outrecruitied in those old ND areas, or are we being outguessed and then outdeveloped? Michigan had more guys who looked like NFL war daddy space eaters at DT than I think I've ever seen at MI or OSU (or anywhere else in the North.)

Kris Jenkins I would take in a heartbeat. The other guys are good but Minter and staff out coached everyone. Development and switching guys positions paid off too. Seems like the D is always in the right spot. Honestly, if we find out they were still cheating I would not be shocked. It’s just mind-boggling how Harbaugh and Company went from really bad to really good overnight.

 

[NDdomer2]

This is kinda wild. This hasn't happened before in the CFP era. It's common to get one "bad" or "mediocre" team in the top 4 but instead this year was littered by mediocre teams that had fortunate results during the season.

In Washington's case -- you don't play 10 straight one score games if you're "good." The numbers bear that out, they finished 9th in advanced stats. Neither Texas or Bama were top 5 teams either. Texas got in because of a wing at Bama... who beat Georgia.

Georgia and Oregon were the two best performing teams this year besides Michigan. Both of them lost conference title games. The playoff likely would've been Georgia, Michigan, Oregon, FSU/Texas/Washington/Ohio State (???) if Oregon and Georgia had taken care of business. But that's why you play the games!

oregon lost twice to washington though so ??

 

[pumpdog20]

oregon lost twice to washington though so ??

Yeah... that list makes no sense because of that.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Yeah... that list makes no sense because of that.

Penn State being 5th is such a close second to that for me.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah... that list makes no sense because of that.

If you lose two nailbiters to a good team and blow out pretty much everyone else on your schedule then advanced stats are going to like you a lot.

 

[NDPhilly]

Advanced stats love PSU this year. Guess they beat the crap out a bunch of mediocre teams, and had a pulse against OSU and Michigan

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Advanced stats love PSU this year. Guess they beat the crap out a bunch of mediocre teams, and had a pulse against OSU and Michigan

I wish I could get through life that way.

 

[IrishLax]

Advanced stats love PSU this year. Guess they beat the crap out a bunch of mediocre teams, and had a pulse against OSU and Michigan

Pretty much. They arguably outplayed Michigan and "should have" own but James Franklin gonna James Franklin.

 

[luckofirish8]

Yup. He already has started pushing the innocence narrative. This is what he said last night apparently.
"It went exactly how we wanted it to go to win every game," Harbaugh said Monday night after No. 1 Michigan defeated No. 2 Washington 34-13. "The off-the-field issues, we're innocent and we stood strong and tall because we knew we were innocent. And I'd like to point that out. "These guys are innocent. Overcome that ... it wasn't that hard because we knew we were innocent."

This came out of the guy's mouth that the university which supposedly has a 10-year, $120M contract offer out to him self-imposed 2 separate 3-games suspension during the year.

He may be right that the players overcame that (and the players probably are innocent in this), but you are far from innocent if that is the case. Michigan brass isn't suspending you for nothing and, if so, then you clearly didn't stand strong and tall. Otherwise, I would have assumed you would have fought those punishments due to your innocence.

 

[Irish#1]

This came out of the guy's mouth that the university which supposedly has a 10-year, $120M contract offer out to him self-imposed 2 separate 3-games suspension during the year.

He may be right that the players overcame that (and the players probably are innocent in this), but you are far from innocent if that is the case. Michigan brass isn't suspending you for nothing and, if so, then you clearly didn't stand strong and tall. Otherwise, I would have assumed you would have fought those punishments due to your innocence.

He was taking one for the team.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Kris Jenkins I would take in a heartbeat. The other guys are good but Minter and staff out coached everyone. Development and switching guys positions paid off too. Seems like the D is always in the right spot. Honestly, if we find out they were still cheating I would not be shocked. It’s just mind-boggling how Harbaugh and Company went from really bad to really good overnight.

Didn't his brother send him some coaches from the Ravens called the Baltimore Crew'?

 

[Luckylucci]

What those advanced stats say to me is parity is up and the margin for error for the previously "elite" teams is down. Similar to college basketball, as long as you can navigate your schedule and get to the dance, you have a shot to win games.

Freeman's ND just hasn't been able to navigate the schedule to take advantage of it. The sad and shitty reality is this version of college football is what BK's ND teams were built for. Hence why someone like Harbaugh is finally winning it at Michigan now.

 

[irishff1014]

I hate that not only does Harbaugh get to leave and look like a martyr, but he doesn't have to feel the pain of the losses that Michigan is about to endure. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he sees what's coming (schedule wise, not even suspension) and realizes he needs to get out. They're going to have 15-18 draft picks. They also are going to lose a ton of veterans that were able to stay because of COVID years. They're going to be starting freaking Greg Crippen next year that's how dire it's about to be. A regression to their pre-2021 season is coming fast.

6 of their top 7 offensive linemen were grad students and the 7th (Zinter) is going to the NFL. Have fun replacing that.

I don’t think the NCAA will do anything to Michigan

 

[Jimmy3Putt]

I was thinking about firing him for creating a hostile work environment.

You can easily start a HR paper trail of write ups. Create cause.

 

[ndfanatic78]

Penn State being 5th is such a close second to that for me.

And where’s FSU? They aren’t top 10 give me a break.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

And where’s FSU? They aren’t top 10 give me a break.

Their QB1 got injured. Probably should drop down to FCS.