'23 TX S Peyton Bowen (Oklahoma Signee ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

[M40]

For sure, but it would make a great thread. Lol

Oh for sure. Looks like Bowen did not make the trip to Oregon so hopefully they are out of it

 

[arahop]

Yeah, Freeman should use our transfer restrictions as a recruiting asset. If you go to ND and don't like it, you can easily transfer to your other finalists. If you go to one of the other finalists and realize you actually wanted to go to ND, well tough luck.

To add, several ND Colleges don’t accept transfers into them past either first or second semesters of sophomore year.

Admissions are a hurdle for the Notre Dame Football program?
One percent of the student population sure moves the academic ranking down out of morality and respectability. Not our mission to make a mockery of this University.

 

[M40]

Admissions are a hurdle for the Notre Dame Football program?
One percent of the student population sure moves the academic ranking down out of morality and respectability. Not our mission to make a mockery of this University.

Transfer portal is becoming more important. I’m sure ND will make adjustments considering it’s a business and not a charity

 

[ThePiombino]

Probably won’t know until Wednesday. But even then he doesn’t technically have to do anything until Feb 2.

Doesn't have to do anything then either.

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[Crazy Balki]

BV, Todd Bates, Miguel Chavis all from Clemson and Jay Valai (Bama) have proven track records. Completely different defensive scheme was installed and this is their first recruiting cycle considering BV came on board about a week prior to signing day last year

Venables has yet to prove he's a high level HC.
Bates and Valai have never been a DC up to this point, so they're unproven in that respect.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Like it or not, the staff carries weight with defensive players. At the end of the day college football has tier one (Georgia, Bama, and Ohio St). ND and OU are in tier two right now with multiple others. Defining OU on a single 6-6 season would be as equally dumb as defining ND on losing to Marshall and a 3-9 standford in the same season

I agree that we’re in the same tier, and should generally be sympathetic toward each other. But OU’s defensive staff is as “proven” as ND’s offensive staff. Which is to say, not at all. Those two sides of the ball have, respectively, been the weakness that have held us back from accomplishing more in the post-season.

I’m sure your coaches are leaning hard on their accomplishments with past programs, but if you win Bowen’s recruitment, that won’t be the reason why.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I agree with this if it wasn’t for OU joining the SEC. If it was the status quo where Oklahoma likely rebounds to be a perennial Big 12 favorite, that’d be one thing. Bowen will likely be on a SEC OU for 2 years. Those teams have a chance to drop OU out of that tier two for years to come.

Legitimate chance the 6 win team he is joining is just that most of his career.

Exactly no don’t see Texas or OU fairing much better than TAm or Olmiss year in and out in the SEC.

 

[IrishBoognish]

I like what Loy is saying.


BK was a good coach but assumed recruits would just fall in his lap because of his presupposed genius.


MF is working hard as fuck to make things happen. Whether it comes through or not... you can't slight the hustle.

Love our coach.

 

[Mavericknyc1980]

I like what Loy is saying.


BK was a good coach but assumed recruits would just fall in his lap because of his presupposed genius.


MF is working hard as fuck to make things happen. Whether it comes through or not... you can't slight the hustle.

Love our coach.

Eventually this will get him to be burned out.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm not saying it's a good chance. If I were to put odds on it I would say we have about as good of a chance as my mother in law not messing up the snicker doodle cookies this Christmas which she always does but I still have some small hope she doesn't this year.

I see what you did there. lol

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Maybe time to get rid of the verbal stuff. Outlaw the BS hat pick 6-12 months before signing day and make it so you can sign with a team as soon as your senior year starts. That way a verbal means nothing, it’s nothing or the ink.

I've said it before, get rid of signing day. Let kids sign whenever they want. It'll at least make it worth something. They can still have their one free transfer out, eligible right after they sign. If they want to sign the first day of their junior year and transfer the next day, so be it. One free one.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I get the feeling that until Charlie Baker gets all the horses back into the barn, five star recruits are going to use verbal commitments to ND or supposed silent commitments to ND to build up their brand and get the factories to start bidding for them. Dante, Keeley and Bowen have written the playbook for everyone else to follow.

This has happened for awhile I feel like. ND is a nice bridesmaid/placeholder/safety school.

Why wouldn’t you commit, knowing there is a 0% chance of any funny business on the school’s end, while having a stress free recruitment with a bird in the hand?


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[NDMatt91]

This has happened for awhile I feel like. ND is a nice bridesmaid/placeholder/safety school.

Why wouldn’t you commit, knowing there is a 0% chance of any funny business on the school’s end, while having a stress free recruitment with a bird in the hand?


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My hope is that the coaching staff emphasizes this to the recruits. No more playing games. If you repeatedly visit another school while you're committed, we're going to look around and prepare as if you're not going to be in the class.

 

[NDohio]

My hope is that the coaching staff emphasizes this to the recruits. No more playing games. If you repeatedly visit another school while you're committed, we're going to look around and prepare as if you're not going to be in the class.

I think the coaching staff did this in this situation. ND has three safeties in this class and only one of them (Adon Shular) was committed before Bowen started messing around with other schools.

Both Brandyn Hillman and Ben Minich were recruited to replace the hole being left in the safety position from Bowen eventually leaving the class.

 

[dublinirish]

Eventually this will get him to be burned out.

this how i feel about MF too, dude has a wife and a load of kids, its not sustainable. I am sure at one point BK was a recruiting trail guy too but you can't be everything at once forever

 

[Sea Turtle]

Still committed. Nice.

 

[dublinirish]

Still committed. Nice.

keep mashing that F5 button

 

[IRISHDODGER]

this how i feel about MF too, dude has a wife and a load of kids, its not sustainable. I am sure at one point BK was a recruiting trail guy too but you can't be everything at once forever

Timing is everything. Can you imagine if MF was HC at ND prior to NIL?

 

[Free Manera]

I have that thought a lot. Freeman could totally have got this program over the hump like 5 years ago.

 

[M40]

this how i feel about MF too, dude has a wife and a load of kids, its not sustainable. I am sure at one point BK was a recruiting trail guy too but you can't be everything at once forever

As much as it pains me, that is exactly how Saban is built different. He demands more of his staff and himself compared to the rest of college football. Family is low on the priory list. Terrible way to live but great if it’s your coach

 

[stlnd01]

As much as it pains me, that is exactly how Saban is built different. He demands more of his staff and himself compared to the rest of college football. Family is low on the priory list. Terrible way to live but great if it’s your coach

Does Saban have six kids all still living at home?
Freeman’s wife must be a pretty remarkable woman.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

As much as it pains me, that is exactly how Saban is built different. He demands more of his staff and himself compared to the rest of college football. Family is low on the priory list. Terrible way to live but great if it’s your coach

The NFL is the same way. Those coaches barely see their families.

 

[EvilleIrish]

The NFL is the same way. Those coaches barely see their families.

But is that only during the season though?

 

[Dale]

VIP Notes: Notre Dame Recruiting

The Early Signing Period begins on Wednesday. All current commits are expected to “put pen to paper” that day, although in reality the process is actually completed via their cell phones and done electronically. Either way, here are the latest rumblings regarding Notre Dame recruiting.

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[rtrn2glory]

I take it they're not considering Bowen a current commit if they're expecting them to sign. Unless he means sign with somebody even if it isn't ND.

 

[Dale]

If anyone wants to mainline some copium directly into their veins.

 

[Free Manera]

But is that only during the season though?

For NFL yeah. NFL coaches have it much better than college coaches. They get a legit offseason. Recruiting and evaluating is a treadmill that never stops for the college dudes.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

If anyone wants to mainline some copium directly into their veins.

I’m here to be hurt. Let’s do this

 

[NDMatt91]

I take it they're not considering Bowen a current commit if they're expecting them to sign. Unless he means sign with somebody even if it isn't ND.

So the fat lady has all but sung?

 

[SoIll]

VIP Notes: Notre Dame Recruiting

The Early Signing Period begins on Wednesday. All current commits are expected to “put pen to paper” that day, although in reality the process is actually completed via their cell phones and done electronically. Either way, here are the latest rumblings regarding Notre Dame recruiting.

247sports.com

"Trust me, if I felt like this was a slam dunk for Oklahoma, I would go ahead and change it just like I did for Limar and Oregon. I’m now feeling more confident about Notre Dame’s chances, which matches the feeling of the Fighting Irish staff."