'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[Dale]

and the first Spring visit goes to……



LSU. Visiting this weekend.

 

[Irish#1]

There were a few times I thought he'd light up a cig back there waiting for Fuller to get open.

Agree overall. I just prefer a QB whose tendency is to keep his eyes down the field/make plays with his arm rather than a guy who is going to tuck and run at the first sight of danger. All I really want here is MF to land a guy with Manning's intangibles, Marino's arm and Vicks's legs. That's all.

That's where I'm at. Everyone is saying Vizzina is the better athlete, but is he running more by design of his offense vs. Moore's offense?

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

I know Dante is a good student (obviously) but how is MLK? Good/bad school, good/bad area? I don't know Detroit AT ALL, other then the bad stuff you see/hear. From the film, they seem to have some dudes, any other guys that we could/may offer that could help?

Sorry for the long post, but I'm happy to answer if you're interested. First a Detroit disclaimer, lol.

MLK is located just outside of downtown and is a fairly nice/safe area. I'm born and raised in metro-Detroit and I tell people ALL the time, downtown Detroit is seriously a nice spot. Great restaurants and bars, nice riverfront across from Windsor, Canada; I've worked downtown for the past 10 years.

Detroit is one of the largest cities in the country by area; downtown in and of itself, and the University District aka "Midtown" (near Wayne State University) is not very large, maybe a few square miles, but has really solid nightlife and is most definitely safe; just like any other large city, just be smart and stay on the "beaten path." All the bad news you hear/read is from the neighborhoods no where near downtown Detroit. The notorious "8 Mile Road" is like 20 minutes away from the heart of the city....that's an example of where all the crime you read about is occurring.

Now to football: The Detroit Public School league is pretty competitive. Cass Tech is probably the best-known as a scUM/MSU( and B1G, in general) feeder program. MLK dominated this year and Moore was a big reason for that. Cass Tech is actually D1, MLK is D3 (it goes by total enrollment numbers in MI), and they knocked off Cass Tech 41-34 this past fall.

Not sure there are any teammates we could try to package; MLK puts about 4-5 players to D1 every year, usually MAC schools. He has one teammate, Jonathan Slack (IOL), who committed to MSU but otherwise most of his teammates are MAC prospects. One EDGE player does have a Cincy offer.

 

[Ricochet]

Both are quite good athletes for a QB's. Vizzina athleticism is more apparent do to his style of play and at the end of the day he might be slightly more athletic than Moore. Butt make no mistake that Moore is also an athletic QB who's athleticism is more smooth and because of his style of play its not nearly as apparent.

 

[Rogue219]

I am hopeful the staff has some kind of plan as to how they're going to play this. Hopefully they don't overplay their hand. Whatever happens they can't come up empty.

Getting a top QB this cycle is paramount because we still don't know what Buchner can do, Agneli is quite an unknown and it will be the first QB this staff will sign in the Freeman Era. There is as much at stake on the field as there is in terms of optics. Agneli has great intangibles but that's all on paper stuff. Can he lead ND to a National Championship? It is hard to envision that. Moore seems to have the skills to take them there. Many of the other top programs agree and they've offered.

Part of me wants to go all in on Moore but I fully understand that if another top guy wants in it would be tough to turn him down based on that sense of urgency of now with the QB situation.

 

[stlnd01]

It seems unlikely that Vizzina would commit on the spot when he visits but hopefully they get a clear sense of his leanings, and thus a little time to go back at Moore and get him to pull the trigger (if Moore is their preferred option). Big picture, getting either would be a big win for us. Getting neither would be a sizable loss. But if you're going to take a loss do it ASAP so you can move on to the Plans B before they get scooped up elsewhere.
I guess what I'm saying is hopefully they can lean on one/both of these guys to wrap this up by, say, the Blue & Gold Game.

 

[arrowryan]

If they get neither, I would seriously doubt Rees would ever be able to recruit his position and would be ready for him to move on.

Striking out on both is simply not an option.

 

[NDdomer2]

If they get neither, I would seriously doubt Rees would ever be able to recruit his position and would be ready for him to move on.

Striking out on both is simply not an option.

well there's always the option that not getting either of these two equals we got some other badass but that looks extremely unlikely at the moment.

 

[stlnd01]

If they get neither, I would seriously doubt Rees would ever be able to recruit his position and would be ready for him to move on.

Striking out on both is simply not an option.

You can declare it's "not an option" all you want, but we're competing with Michigan for a kid from Detroit and several Southern powers for a kid from Alabama. There's at least a decent chance both choose someplace other than Notre Dame to play college football, no matter what the staff's efforts.

Which is why would be good to know that soon enough that we can still land, say, Avery Johnson, and not have to go scraping further down the list like last year. The worst case scenario is waiting on Moore only to have him choose Michigan in the end and having to try and poach some other school's QB late in the cycle.

 

[Rogue219]

If they get neither, I would seriously doubt Rees would ever be able to recruit his position and would be ready for him to move on.

Striking out on both is simply not an option.

That kind of depends on who they might end up with, doesn't it?

 

[DONTH8]

Sorry for the long post, but I'm happy to answer if you're interested. First a Detroit disclaimer, lol.

MLK is located just outside of downtown and is a fairly nice/safe area. I'm born and raised in metro-Detroit and I tell people ALL the time, downtown Detroit is seriously a nice spot. Great restaurants and bars, nice riverfront across from Windsor, Canada; I've worked downtown for the past 10 years.

Detroit is one of the largest cities in the country by area; downtown in and of itself, and the University District aka "Midtown" (near Wayne State University) is not very large, maybe a few square miles, but has really solid nightlife and is most definitely safe; just like any other large city, just be smart and stay on the "beaten path." All the bad news you hear/read is from the neighborhoods no where near downtown Detroit. The notorious "8 Mile Road" is like 20 minutes away from the heart of the city....that's an example of where all the crime you read about is occurring.

Now to football: The Detroit Public School league is pretty competitive. Cass Tech is probably the best-known as a scUM/MSU( and B1G, in general) feeder program. MLK dominated this year and Moore was a big reason for that. Cass Tech is actually D1, MLK is D3 (it goes by total enrollment numbers in MI), and they knocked off Cass Tech 41-34 this past fall.

Not sure there are any teammates we could try to package; MLK puts about 4-5 players to D1 every year, usually MAC schools. He has one teammate, Jonathan Slack (IOL), who committed to MSU but otherwise most of his teammates are MAC prospects. One EDGE player does have a Cincy offer.

This guy has been enduring Detroit for the past 10 years waiting for a prospect that he could finally get the inside scoop on. This is why I come to IE for my ND football news!

 

[irishandy]

I may be wrong, but I think Vizzina's visit puts pressure on Moore.

Is Moore or Vizzina's ND's #1 QB they are after?

 

[Irishnuke]

Unless we hear about Vizzina cancelling his visit before the weekend, I'm going to bet on him being the QB in this class for us as well. Honestly, the way last year went, I just want one in the fold sooner than later. I like both of them well enough that I wouldn't be mad with either one of them committing.

You dirty SOB

 

[rtrn2glory]

You dirty SOB

Insert Homer backing into bushes gif

 

[GrangerIrish24]

Tom is really sounding positive. Keeps saying they just need to close, which I'm taking as he just needs to announce his commitment.

 

[arrowryan]

Tom is really sounding positive. Keeps saying they just need to close, which I'm taking as he just needs to announce his commitment.

I’m taking it at face value. Rees has failed to close, more often than not.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I’m taking it at face value. Rees has failed to close, more often than not.

Thats fair. Ive just seen Tom do this before with other kids who eventually commit. Im reading it as Tom already has a commit story written up.

 

[Rogue219]

This thread is going to be like an adult Advent calendar for me.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I’m taking it at face value. Rees has failed to close, more often than not.

Keep up the good work on the podcast btw

 

[IrishRazor82]

So Chris cancelled his visit to ND the same weekend Moore is heading to LSU? Some of these visits are planned months in advance but at face value doesn't look great for ND overall. Wonder if he'll get the dance.

 

[arrowryan]

So Chris cancelled his visit to ND the same weekend Moore is heading to LSU? Some of these visits are planned months in advance but at face value doesn't look great for ND overall. Wonder if he'll get the dance.

I think Moore always planned to visit LSU and other schools. I’m all for uncommitted recruits taking visits. I’d rather them do it now than do what Keeley and Bowen are doing.

 

[IrishRazor82]

I think Moore always planned to visit LSU and other schools. I’m all for uncommitted recruits taking visits. I’d rather them do it now than do what Keeley and Bowen are doing.

Just strange ISD has never mentioned this since they update any/all on Moore. I think they're slipping behind 247 in regards to recruiting developments. They're strength is in the breakdowns/member interactions.

 

[Ndaccountant]

After seeing what BK does to QB's on campus since being at LSU, my only advice to him would be....

 

[arrowryan]

Just strange ISD has never mentioned this since they update any/all on Moore. I think they're slipping behind 247 in regards to recruiting developments. They're strength is in the breakdowns/member interactions.

I’m not a subscriber to ISD, but Loy and II do a fantastic job of keeping their members up to date with everything.

I don’t think LSU is the only school Moore plans on visiting.

 

[BeauBenken]

Just strange ISD has never mentioned this since they update any/all on Moore. I think they're slipping behind 247 in regards to recruiting developments. They're strength is in the breakdowns/member interactions.

Not quite true. They had articles of Dante's family talking about taking a sweep of southern visits just in the past couple of weeks. Not sure if they specified LSU, but they definitely had word of him taking southern visits.

 

[SoIll]

I’m not a subscriber to ISD, but Loy and II do a fantastic job of keeping their members up to date with everything.

I don’t think LSU is the only school Moore plans on visiting.

ISD isn't what it used to be... They are usually late on most things when it comes to recruiting.

Solid on practice intel and game breakdowns though.

 

[BeauBenken]

ISD isn't what it used to be... They are usually late on most things when it comes to recruiting.

Solid on practice intel and game breakdowns though.

I would agree that this recruiting season ISD does seem a tad behind. In years past I thought they were really, really good, and I trusted their opinions on prospects a bit more so than others because they wouldn't get your hopes up on guys unless it was legit. I'm curious as to what could be leading to this, whether it is them simply falling behind on info or Loy and others stepping their game up.

 

[IrishRazor82]

Not quite true. They had articles of Dante's family talking about taking a sweep of southern visits just in the past couple of weeks. Not sure if they specified LSU, but they definitely had word of him taking southern visits.

They didn't specify LSU or that it was happening next week. And if this has long been planned you'd think they'd call that one out specifically given the BK connection and that it's a big, upcoming visit.

ISD seems more focused on the analysis/content which is perfectly fine, but I'm indifferent on their recruiting info. I don't have 247 but seem to get more in the know via 247 even though I'm not a member.

 

[dublinirish]

Sorry for the long post, but I'm happy to answer if you're interested. First a Detroit disclaimer, lol.

MLK is located just outside of downtown and is a fairly nice/safe area. I'm born and raised in metro-Detroit and I tell people ALL the time, downtown Detroit is seriously a nice spot. Great restaurants and bars, nice riverfront across from Windsor, Canada; I've worked downtown for the past 10 years.

Detroit is one of the largest cities in the country by area; downtown in and of itself, and the University District aka "Midtown" (near Wayne State University) is not very large, maybe a few square miles, but has really solid nightlife and is most definitely safe; just like any other large city, just be smart and stay on the "beaten path." All the bad news you hear/read is from the neighborhoods no where near downtown Detroit. The notorious "8 Mile Road" is like 20 minutes away from the heart of the city....that's an example of where all the crime you read about is occurring.

Now to football: The Detroit Public School league is pretty competitive. Cass Tech is probably the best-known as a scUM/MSU( and B1G, in general) feeder program. MLK dominated this year and Moore was a big reason for that. Cass Tech is actually D1, MLK is D3 (it goes by total enrollment numbers in MI), and they knocked off Cass Tech 41-34 this past fall.

Not sure there are any teammates we could try to package; MLK puts about 4-5 players to D1 every year, usually MAC schools. He has one teammate, Jonathan Slack (IOL), who committed to MSU but otherwise most of his teammates are MAC prospects. One EDGE player does have a Cincy offer.

neither Cass or MLK would have students fitting the ND profile though

 

[Irish#1]

I’m taking it at face value. Rees has failed to close, more often than not.

ABC baby!