‘23 KS OL Joe Otting (Notre Dame Signee)

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They give their rationale in the article.

It's probably some combination of didn't eval him hard enough early on, basketball season film was ridiculous, and attracted some attention during Spring evals.
 
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He's one of the few O-linemen who I think could actually get D-line playing time if he is having trouble putting on that last 20 lbs. effectively. He's got enough burst to play a 280 lb. strongside end, IMHO.
 
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Was reading Otting's thread here and the concerns about weight. It reminded me of one of my brother's recruitments long ago. Tom was a monster power guard specimen for a high schooler (which is exactly what he became at Virginia Tech) but he couldn't impress the BIG BOYS (including Notre Dame) because he was "way too underweight." (This despite him knocking opponents on their asses all season.) The reason for this weight "dilemma" was that my brother was a three sport high school player, and the power forward (sometimes center) on the basketball team. He was in "basketball shape" when the visits came to little ol' Charleston WV to interview him. (Back in those old times a guard, even at Notre Dame, might weigh 240-250 not 300 as today --- they might "grow into" 275 with bad weight through the season if the staff's didn't watch them like hawks --- but Tom was only 200 during BBall season and looked hollow-cheeked.) I think that Otting may be having (at least somewhat) that same problem. (Tom by the way ultimately entered Virginia Tech at a muscle-bound 225 as a frosh, and played easily at 270 --- big in those days --- in his last two years.) With the right mindset, Otting can do this (275 ---> 300 with power) probably easily.

Looking at his BBall film, he is obviously caring about being as good at Basketball as he can (and he's GOOD) and must be trying to keep weight OFF. Does that mean he is one of those guys who CAN'T carry it? He doesn't look that way to me on the film. The guy looks plenty capable of being "thick." Now I can easily be wrong about Otting --- I haven't seen him in the weight room like Coach has and doubt that any of us here at IE have --- plus Otting might not have my brother's iron will to become the strongest man he could (weight room record holder at VT in his day.) But I have good vibes about this fellow's potential from his coach's words to his basketball athleticism to his training in explosive track events (Shot, discus, javelin --- just think how much whole body athleticism is encompassed in things like discus.)

I can be miss-seeing this of course. But Coach H and Coach Tommy seem to be seeing it the same way, so ... NOT a three-star in any of our eyes.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Was reading Otting's thread here and the concerns about weight. It reminded me of one of my brother's recruitments long ago. Tom was a monster power guard specimen for a high schooler (which is exactly what he became at Virginia Tech) but he couldn't impress the BIG BOYS (including Notre Dame) because he was "way too underweight." (This despite him knocking opponents on their asses all season.) The reason for this weight "dilemma" was that my brother was a three sport high school player, and the power forward (sometimes center) on the basketball team. He was in "basketball shape" when the visits came to little ol' Charleston WV to interview him. (Back in those old times a guard, even at Notre Dame, might weigh 240-250 not 300 as today --- they might "grow into" 275 with bad weight through the season if the staff's didn't watch them like hawks --- but Tom was only 200 during BBall season and looked hollow-cheeked.) I think that Otting may be having (at least somewhat) that same problem. (Tom by the way ultimately entered Virginia Tech at a muscle-bound 225 as a frosh, and played easily at 270 --- big in those days --- in his last two years.) With the right mindset, Otting can do this (275 ---> 300 with power) probably easily.

Looking at his BBall film, he is obviously caring about being as good at Basketball as he can (and he's GOOD) and must be trying to keep weight OFF. Does that mean he is one of those guys who CAN'T carry it? He doesn't look that way to me on the film. The guy looks plenty capable of being "thick." Now I can easily be wrong about Otting --- I haven't seen him in the weight room like Coach has and doubt that any of us here at IE have --- plus Otting might not have my brother's iron will to become the strongest man he could (weight room record holder at VT in his day.) But I have good vibes about this fellow's potential from his coach's words to his basketball athleticism to his training in explosive track events (Shot, discus, javelin --- just think how much whole body athleticism is encompassed in things like discus.)

I can be miss-seeing this of course. But Coach H and Coach Tommy seem to be seeing it the same way, so ... NOT a three-star in any of our eyes.
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Well said. From one offensive line guy to another, I couldn't agree more. I think this kid will exceed expectations.
 
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Otting has center written all over him with that 6-2/6-3 height. Or maybe it's bad to try and guesstimate someone's height from a photo? Anyone on the board ever try to do this?
 
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Veritate Duce Progredi said:
Otting has center written all over him with that 6-2/6-3 height. Or maybe it's bad to try and guesstimate someone's height from a photo? Anyone on the board ever try to do this?
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Ill give it the hillbilly math.

Doors are typically 6'8". He looks like he stands at the bottom of the 1x4 on that door. 6'8" - 4" = 6'4"
 
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Listed at 6-3 1/8 / 264.

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Otting plays D1 quality Basketball in high school. Tough to get up to weight. He'll get there; my brother did.
 
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So he dropped 20lbs between senior year and now? No wonder Balis saw himself out.
 
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Old Man Mike said:
Otting plays D1 quality Basketball in high school. Tough to get up to weight. He'll get there; my brother did.
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He played basketball & there may have been many DI players on his schedule but he wasn't a DI prospect himself.
 
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OK, but his coach once said that if he emphasized BBall he might be. I'm pretty sure that I read that in a local article.

But who cares? If a HS player is serious about BBall then they might easily sluff off the extra weight. My brother dropped at least twenty pounds to run the court and it nearly cost him a recruitment when the Football coaches showed up during BBall season and were shocked at how "thin" he looked. BTW, he had to go to military school to beef up for VT but was playing at the 30+ pound greater weight there immediately. When he "graduated" to VT (southern schools did a lot of that post-HS extra year stuff), he played RG at 275 which was huge in the 60s. (and the weightlifting records at VT and ultimately the state.) Otting can do this.
 
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Less worried about weight more so height. It takes a lot to overcome being 6’3 1/8 on the OL.

It doesn’t mean it can’t be done but it’s quite unlikely.
 
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I thought he was a C prospect in which case 6’3 wouldn’t be an issue at all.


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And Correll is a very skilled OL that has struggled mightily, at times, with the physical aspects of the game over his 4 previous seasons.
 
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